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TSR MHoC General Election March 2013 watch

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    TSR Conservative and Unionist Party
    110
    18.09%
    TSR Green Party
    77
    12.66%
    TSR Labour Party
    131
    21.55%
    TSR Liberal Party
    53
    8.72%
    TSR Libertarian Party
    46
    7.57%
    TSR Socialist Party
    69
    11.35%
    tehFrance
    36
    5.92%
    TSR UKIP
    69
    11.35%
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    17
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    (Original post by Tuerin)
    If you take a look at our manifesto I believe those exact words are actually used. No reason they can't both be priorities. How you can claim to know the views of the 'average voter' I don't know.

    The main reason we re-named was because we felt we were being unfairly penalised at the polls for the unpopularity of the RL party despite our stellar contributions to MHoC.
    I simply refer to your priorities, which I believe are irrelevant to the average voter. How do I know what an average voter wants? I am an average voter. Yeah I assumed you changed your name for that reason, but I do hope it doesn't mean you're abandoning your social democratic principles.


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    (Original post by Cheese_Monster)
    I simply refer to your priorities, which I believe are irrelevant to the average voter. How do I know what an average voter wants? I am an average voter. Yeah I assumed you changed your name for that reason, but I do hope it doesn't mean you're abandoning your social democratic principles.


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    I don't recall us ever claiming to have social democratic principles - more in the classical and social liberal trend.

    The part about the average voter is a fallacy - you referred to 'the' average voter, as if there is some amalgamation of policies important to most people. The fact that you are an 'average voter', which really just means an ordinary member of the public, doesn't mean you know what most people prioritise politically. Averages are rarely reliable indicators of anything, anyway.
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    (Original post by Birchington)
    It's a shame the Greens don't seem able to dominate the media or have more regular appearances on Question Time. They really need to employ a new PR team.
    The problem with the Green leaders (bar not knowing more than a handful of people in the party) is that they come across as too soft and are politically betrayed to the electorate by their own for lack of a better word 'femininity'. When you look at the party leaders you see the likes of Cameron, Farage and Miliband waging a war of words and trying to sound strong in their convictions (the types of people you can see standing up to country x) and then you have the Green women who are competent but come across as lacking that leadership strength that even Thatcher had.

    Like it or not, politics is a war-zone and not this softly-softly utopia. I suppose my point is that it is not what you say (i'm sure the Greens say the right things) but how you say it and in our macho parliament you need leaders of strength.
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    (Original post by Endless Blue)
    The worst thing about this entire election process has to be the ghastly and inescapable collection of images all of the Liberal party seem to be putting in their sigs. I've never felt so angry upon seeing a lion - it's a lion, right? - before.
    We thank you, sir :awesome:

    (Original post by toronto353)
    To be fair, the hideous grey and yellow banners aren't much better.
    See above.

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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    The problem with the Green leaders (bar not knowing more than a handful of people in the party) is that they come across as too soft and are politically betrayed to the electorate by their own for lack of a better word 'femininity'. When you look at the party leaders you see the likes of Cameron, Farage and Miliband waging a war of words and trying to sound strong in their convictions (the types of people you can see standing up to country x) and then you have the Green women who are competent but come across as lacking that leadership strength that even Thatcher had.

    Like it or not, politics is a war-zone and not this softly-softly utopia. I suppose my point is that it is not what you say (i'm sure the Greens say the right things) but how you say it and in our macho parliament you need leaders of strength.
    Nonsense. The Greens lack of media presence is not based on a false concept of 'masculinity' or 'adversarial politics', if it were, how could you include the likes of Miliband in that category? Admittedly the Greens leadership has been poor and often outspoken, but to insinuate that the sex of their leaders prevents them from electoral success is at best chauvinistic. Like all other fringe parties, the Greens lack of electoral success is compounded by appearing irrelevant to the typical voter, an inherent disadvantage from a plurality voting system, the tendency of voters to remain with the two major parties and a lack of clear projection of their policies besides the notion that they are just raving environmentalist hippies concerned with wind turbines and one child policies. That is their RL downfall and the beauty of the MHOC is that we are not our real life counterparts and have a highly focused manifesto.


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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    The problem with the Green leaders (bar not knowing more than a handful of people in the party) is that they come across as too soft and are politically betrayed to the electorate by their own for lack of a better word 'femininity'. When you look at the party leaders you see the likes of Cameron, Farage and Miliband waging a war of words and trying to sound strong in their convictions (the types of people you can see standing up to country x) and then you have the Green women who are competent but come across as lacking that leadership strength that even Thatcher had.

    Like it or not, politics is a war-zone and not this softly-softly utopia. I suppose my point is that it is not what you say (i'm sure the Greens say the right things) but how you say it and in our macho parliament you need leaders of strength.
    Dude what are you talking about
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    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    Before anybody lynches me I'm joking.
    What if I wish to lynch you for other reasons? :holmes:
    (Original post by Rakas21)
    We appear to have moved.
    Indeed we have, it is outrageous that our democratic vote on an amendment that stated where we were to hold the vote was not adhered to. Once I am Prime Minister I shall launch an investigation and don't you worry, heads will roll, heads will roll my friend :fuhrer:

    tehFrance, starting up pointless investigations just to have an excuse to spend money and roll heads.

    A Vote for tehFrance is a Vote Accountability!
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    (Original post by politixx)
    What policies do all the parties have on the foreign aid BUDGET?
    Whilst we may not necessarily be able to reduce it due to commitments the UK has previously made, we would certainly look at ensuring it's more wisely and efficiently spent, and that it goes to countries that need it, and the people within those countries that need it. We'd be looking to avoid anymore fiascoes like the one with India a couple of years ago.

    (Original post by Endless Blue)
    As Smack (I believe) said, you must be scraping the bottom of the barrel when The Space Industry Act is at the top of your manifesto.
    Space exploration is an important part of building our future. We cannot afford to be the nation left behind on what is ultimately going to be the next big step in humanity's development. Whilst we may not have the financial power of the likes of America and China to continually send manned missions, we can certainly be looking at developing technology for use in space travel and be getting involved in joint missions etc.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    We appear to have moved.
    Yeah, so much for that amendment then...
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    But why was the thread moved? Was the mod unaware of our amendment or did they choose to overrule it?
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    (Original post by miser)
    But why was the thread moved? Was the mod unaware of our amendment or did they choose to overrule it?
    Not sure what happened - it should stay in the MHoC forum like the amendment said. We should at least get a TSR-wide announcement or PM to all members telling them about the election, perhaps that will happen after the Easter weekend? Earliest Tuesday...


    (Original post by Melancholy)
    I see Justin Bieber is supportive of the Labour crew:

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    :lol: Didn't see that resemblance when helping to put the manifesto together...
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    (Original post by miser)
    But why was the thread moved? Was the mod unaware of our amendment or did they choose to overrule it?

    (Original post by Rakas21)
    We appear to have moved.
    I have queried this with Jarred and we are currently looking into it.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    We appear to have moved.
    The mods are all mighty.
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    (Original post by Birchington)
    If you support liberal values, such as improving our civil liberties or clamping down on legal loan sharks - you can now express your voice!

    The TSR general election is currently underway, and the Liberal Party would be grateful for your vote!

    You can vote here
    I think that part of the reason why the thread was moved was it was merged with the 'Do you support liberalism?' thread which is the quoted post (which I assume was in News and Current Affairs).

    Seems the mods may have thought that one party shouldn't be canvassing for votes in the forum where the thread usually was (with no other party doing so afaik), so merged the canvassing thread into the main thread, and moved the main thread here. So until further notice, blame the liberals
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    (Original post by rmhumphries)
    I think that part of the reason why the thread was moved was it was merged with the 'Do you support liberalism?' thread which is the quoted post (which I assume was in News and Current Affairs).

    Seems the mods may have thought that one party shouldn't be canvassing for votes in the forum where the thread usually was (with no other party doing so afaik), so merged the canvassing thread into the main thread, and moved the main thread here. So until further notice, blame the liberals
    I was anyway. It's nice to have a reason though.
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    (Original post by Mazzini)
    We thank you, sir :awesome:



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    In fairness, your logo could be goatse and it'd be less damaging to your performance than being associated with Clegg's face.

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    If you don't know what goatse is, I suggest you never ever attempt to find out.
 
 
 
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