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    Hey, could someone please explain the tariff system for Barts Uni to do Medicine.

    This is my profile:

    GCSE: 9A*
    AS: AAAA
    A2: Predicted A* A* A*
    UKCAT: 823
    Other qualifications:
    - EPQ (to be completed)
    - Grade 7 (Pass) piano ABRSM
    - Grade 8 (Distinc) Drama LAMDA
    - Grade 8 (Distinc) Public Speaking LAMDA
    - Grade 5 Theory (Merit) ABRSM
    - CSLA Award
    - D of E upto Silver
    - AQA Bac


    If anyone could help me that would be greatly appreciated, thanks??
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    460 UCAS points and 2980 UKCAT. Worth applying?
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    Hey everyone, sorry for probably sounding incredibly stupid but I'm a bit confused on how the UCAS tarrif points system works. Is your total UCAS tarrif a sum of your A2 predictions and As grades ( and music examinations etc), or just A2 predictions? Because if it is just A2 predictions the predicted UAS tarriff is 360 points for AAA as one A equates to 120 UCAS points, but that is is insufficient for entry to Barts?. So I'm a bit confused there? How do we get predicted 480 points minimum without having to do 4 or more A levels? Again, sorry for sounding stupid.
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    (Original post by Physicsrules23)
    Hey everyone, sorry for probably sounding incredibly stupid but I'm a bit confused on how the UCAS tarrif points system works. Is your total UCAS tarrif a sum of your A2 predictions and As grades ( and music examinations etc), or just A2 predictions? Because if it is just A2 predictions the predicted UAS tarriff is 360 points for AAA as one A equates to 120 UCAS points, but that is is insufficient for entry to Barts?. So I'm a bit confused there? How do we get predicted 480 points minimum without having to do 4 or more A levels? Again, sorry for sounding stupid.
    If you did 4 AS's you get the UCAS points for the subject you cashed in. Also, any other tariff able qualifications are used- that is your EPQ, OCR Nationals, ASDANS, Music examinations etc. if you have these then you will probably be above the tariff with three A2, but otherwise you will have to continue with 4.


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    (Original post by lindseyyy)
    Hey, could someone please explain the tariff system for Barts Uni to do Medicine.

    This is my profile:

    GCSE: 9A*
    AS: AAAA
    A2: Predicted A* A* A*
    UKCAT: 823
    Other qualifications:
    - EPQ (to be completed)
    - Grade 7 (Pass) piano ABRSM
    - Grade 8 (Distinc) Drama LAMDA
    - Grade 8 (Distinc) Public Speaking LAMDA
    - Grade 5 Theory (Merit) ABRSM
    - CSLA Award
    - D of E upto Silver
    - AQA Bac


    If anyone could help me that would be greatly appreciated, thanks??
    Go onto the UCAS tariff tables. A simple Google search will reveal this for you. If your qualifications add up to 460 including A2 predictions and any AS you cash in (which you should get with all of these Music qualifications) you will probably be guaranteed an interview looking at your UKCAT score. Last year 3,120 total score was enough for an interview with a 460 tariff prediction I think, so I guess you're pretty safe.

    The admissions stats are on the website for you to check this.


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    With a UKCAT score of 2680, Band 1 and a predicted UCAS tarif of 570 (not including EPQ or AQA Bacc) would I have any chance getting an interview? :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by StephenNaulls)
    If you did 4 AS's you get the UCAS points for the subject you cashed in. Also, any other tariff able qualifications are used- that is your EPQ, OCR Nationals, ASDANS, Music examinations etc. if you have these then you will probably be above the tariff with three A2, but otherwise you will have to continue with 4.


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    So you mean I get Ucas points from one AS and 3 A2 predictions, in addition to music exams? That's alright because I got 4 As at AS and grade 6 piano, so will that put me in a good spot?
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    (Original post by Physicsrules23)
    So you mean I get Ucas points from one AS and 3 A2 predictions, in addition to music exams? That's alright because I got 4 As at AS and grade 6 piano, so will that put me in a good spot?
    Well, if you're predicted 3 As that gives you 360, the additional A is 60 bringing you to 420. How much is the music qualification worth?

    Worth keeping in mind that it you just make the limit on the UCAS tariff, a high UKCAT will be required. Last year 3,120 made up for the lowest tariff I believe.


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    (Original post by StephenNaulls)
    That is excellent news for him. Is he considering UKCAT-heavy universities?


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    With that UKCAT score yes. Now considering which universities best to apply with 815 average UKCAT and A*A*A*A achieved A-levels (my son is a re-applicant). Current plan is for Barts (his no.1 choice) and King's as definites to apply for, then need to choose 2 between St.George's, HYMS, Southampton, Newcastle if focusing on UKCAT as your main strength. Only think there is also Glasgow which is UKCAT heavy but he doesn't want to go to Scotland! Not sure if there are any more which are biased to UKCAT in selecting candidates for interviews? Does anybody else know of any more worth considering?

    If I am reading the selection criteria correctly, he has a high chance of getting 4 interviews now with the correct selection of the 6 above using a 815 UKCAT score e.g. HYMS gaurantee an interview above 700. It is a matter of playing to your strengths and not being too ambitious on target universities. His PS is reasonably good but not top score so avoiding universities who only focus on PS for interview selection.

    But Barts is his favourite and we will be at the open day on the 21st.
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    (Original post by Perfect Choice)
    With that UKCAT score yes. Now considering which universities best to apply with 815 average UKCAT and A*A*A*A achieved A-levels (my son is a re-applicant). Current plan is for Barts (his no.1 choice) and King's as definites to apply for, then need to choose 2 between St.George's, HYMS, Southampton, Newcastle if focusing on UKCAT as your main strength. Only think there is also Glasgow which is UKCAT heavy but he doesn't want to go to Scotland! Not sure if there are any more which are biased to UKCAT in selecting candidates for interviews? Does anybody else know of any more worth considering?

    If I am reading the selection criteria correctly, he has a high chance of getting 4 interviews now with the correct selection of the 6 above using a 815 UKCAT score e.g. HYMS gaurantee an interview above 700. It is a matter of playing to your strengths and not being too ambitious on target universities. His PS is reasonably good but not top score so avoiding universities who only focus on PS for interview selection.

    But Barts is his favourite and we will be at the open day on the 21st.
    Why not Oxbridge with those grades?
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    (Original post by KanKan)
    Thanks guys! And welcome to the thread

    I personally was wondering how the interview was for you guys, did you find it difficult? What type of questions did they ask?
    (Original post by DrumChops)
    Hey, what was your UCAS tariff and UKCAT score? At interview, did they ask questions relating to your PS? Also how long is the interview, and what was it like, in terms of no. of panelists, how nice they were etc. etc.

    Another question: how many hours would you say you spent working on and refining your PS?

    Hi there!
    I spent 4 years over A levels due to illness so my UCAS tariff was a little odd, applied with a tariff of around 500. Now I have my A2 results it is 650. My UKCAT was 792.5.

    For my personal statement I had to explain why I took so long over A levels (hospital for anorexia) so was frank and put that in my first paragraph (risky move, perhaps why Bristol rejected me). The personal statement overall is pretty short so it didn't take long to write it, most of the time was trying to make it shorter! Maybe 4-5 hours over several weeks including revisions?

    My interview was 10mins with 2 panellists. Quite relaxed, they were very nice - much nicer than the Kings interviewers! I was incredibly nervous and babbled some nonsense at the first question about the ethics scenario, but the female interviewer told me to take a deep breath and start again, haha. Thought I had lost it then but clearly not!
    They then asked the standard work experience questions, tell me more about this volunteering on your personal statement, etc.
    The last question they asked was strange though - 'what caused your anorexia?' Luckily I took it in my stride and was polite, answered to the best of my ability, and they let me go I think that question was intended to make me angry, to show I wasn't ready for the course. Some others I know were asked strange questions a bit like this, so be mentally prepared for such 'illegal' questions.

    And one piece of advice - shake the hand of and make eye contact with each interviewer you have, they actually seemed surprised I did that!

    Overall I found I built the interview up to be far more stressful than it actually was. After Kings it was a breeze, and the students in the waiting room with tea and chocolate biscuits did their best to put us all at ease

    I am SO HAPPY I'm going to this medical school as everyone has been so welcoming, and they have fantastic support for anyone who has had/currently has health problems. The first year halls are right by Barbican station too, really looking forward to moving in next week!

    Good luck to all of you
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    (Original post by StephenNaulls)
    Why not Oxbridge with those grades?
    Just doesn't want to do BMAT and not know result before application deadline. My son had 1 A-level student at his school who applied to 2 universities in 2012/13 requiring BMAT and found out later that they had failed BMAT. He just doesn't want to take the chance when he knows there are other universities he is 99% certain to get to interview already e.g. Leicester and HYMS are automatic interview selections for him if he decides to apply to them, while others such as Southampton, St George's and of course Barts here, he is very likely to be in the group whose grades/UKCAT mean they will be selected for interview. So why take the risk and as a re-applicant, he really wants to get a place this year so going for his best chances in order to secure as many interviews as possible.
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    This year, I have 700 avg ukcat, and 600 UCAS points (thats A*A*A*A* right? Not sure I've figured tariff out completely)

    I applied to Barts last year with 3As at AS and 1A*, and a ukcat average of 629. I want to apply to barts but am worried of being over ambitious and applying only to the best! Did that last year and ended up with 4 rejections :/
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    (Original post by snakeyface)
    Hi there!
    I spent 4 years over A levels due to illness so my UCAS tariff was a little odd, applied with a tariff of around 500. Now I have my A2 results it is 650. My UKCAT was 792.5.

    For my personal statement I had to explain why I took so long over A levels (hospital for anorexia) so was frank and put that in my first paragraph (risky move, perhaps why Bristol rejected me). The personal statement overall is pretty short so it didn't take long to write it, most of the time was trying to make it shorter! Maybe 4-5 hours over several weeks including revisions?

    My interview was 10mins with 2 panellists. Quite relaxed, they were very nice - much nicer than the Kings interviewers! I was incredibly nervous and babbled some nonsense at the first question about the ethics scenario, but the female interviewer told me to take a deep breath and start again, haha. Thought I had lost it then but clearly not!
    They then asked the standard work experience questions, tell me more about this volunteering on your personal statement, etc.
    The last question they asked was strange though - 'what caused your anorexia?' Luckily I took it in my stride and was polite, answered to the best of my ability, and they let me go I think that question was intended to make me angry, to show I wasn't ready for the course. Some others I know were asked strange questions a bit like this, so be mentally prepared for such 'illegal' questions.

    And one piece of advice - shake the hand of and make eye contact with each interviewer you have, they actually seemed surprised I did that!

    Overall I found I built the interview up to be far more stressful than it actually was. After Kings it was a breeze, and the students in the waiting room with tea and chocolate biscuits did their best to put us all at ease

    I am SO HAPPY I'm going to this medical school as everyone has been so welcoming, and they have fantastic support for anyone who has had/currently has health problems. The first year halls are right by Barbican station too, really looking forward to moving in next week!

    Good luck to all of you
    Ahh thanks for that! Good luck for when you begin
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    (Original post by snakeyface)
    Hi there!
    I spent 4 years over A levels due to illness so my UCAS tariff was a little odd, applied with a tariff of around 500. Now I have my A2 results it is 650. My UKCAT was 792.5.

    For my personal statement I had to explain why I took so long over A levels (hospital for anorexia) so was frank and put that in my first paragraph (risky move, perhaps why Bristol rejected me). The personal statement overall is pretty short so it didn't take long to write it, most of the time was trying to make it shorter! Maybe 4-5 hours over several weeks including revisions?

    My interview was 10mins with 2 panellists. Quite relaxed, they were very nice - much nicer than the Kings interviewers! I was incredibly nervous and babbled some nonsense at the first question about the ethics scenario, but the female interviewer told me to take a deep breath and start again, haha. Thought I had lost it then but clearly not!
    They then asked the standard work experience questions, tell me more about this volunteering on your personal statement, etc.
    The last question they asked was strange though - 'what caused your anorexia?' Luckily I took it in my stride and was polite, answered to the best of my ability, and they let me go I think that question was intended to make me angry, to show I wasn't ready for the course. Some others I know were asked strange questions a bit like this, so be mentally prepared for such 'illegal' questions.

    And one piece of advice - shake the hand of and make eye contact with each interviewer you have, they actually seemed surprised I did that!

    Overall I found I built the interview up to be far more stressful than it actually was. After Kings it was a breeze, and the students in the waiting room with tea and chocolate biscuits did their best to put us all at ease

    I am SO HAPPY I'm going to this medical school as everyone has been so welcoming, and they have fantastic support for anyone who has had/currently has health problems. The first year halls are right by Barbican station too, really looking forward to moving in next week!

    Good luck to all of you
    Do they send you a paper or something a week before the interview?
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    Hi guys,
    I'm applying from Ireland this year for 2014 entry. I'm just wondering would these grades be good enough
    Junior Cert(GCSEs): 8As 3Bs (There are no A*s)
    Leaving Cert(A2s): 6 A1s and 2 A2s (I think that's 694 tariff points?)

    I've got a pretty good volunteering/work experience résumé but I'm not sure if I should bother applying as I've heard competition is ridiculously fierce. Also, I dunno how the UKCAT will go..

    Thanks
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    Hey guys,

    So I'm going into Year 12 right now and my GCSE scores were a little mediocre (2A*s in Maths and History, 7As in Spanish, English Language, Bio, Chem, Physics, English Literature and Art, and 1B in French ) My results are good but they're not brilliant, especially considering I go to a Grammar School.
    I'm taking Bio, Chem, Maths, History and General Studies for AS and will probably be dropping Maths and General Studies at A2. I'm obviously aiming for 4/5 As at the end of AS and all As at least at the end of A2. I've identified what I did wrong at GCSE (NOT ENOUGH REVISION ) and plan to work much harder at A Level from the first lesson.
    I volunteer once a week in the small Chapel at my local Hospital, transporting patients from their ward to the Chapel and also volunteer regularly at one of the small shops in the same Hospital which raises money for the Hospital (last year they raised aprox. £100,000)
    I've also volunteered at a GP for one week and spent one week at 6 six different departments at a Hospital (ranging from A&E to Radiology to Surgery- It was Great!) I also do a lot of extra curricular activities at my school, ranging from Debate Club to Head of School Council) I speak 3 different languages fluently, not including English, two of which I taught myself (even though my first language is English) and I have been altar serving for the past nine years.

    My current Uni choices are
    1. UCL (first choice)
    2. Either Cambridge or Barts
    3. Bristol
    4. Leicester

    Even though, whilst typing all of this out, I was thinking 'Wow, I've done quite a bit of stuff', I know how competitive Medicine is, especially at UCL which is where I've been dreaming to go for as long as I can remember.

    I know my GCSEs put me at a disadvantage, but if there is even the slightest way to improve my Application, could you please please reply to this post.
    Even if you don't have anything to contribute, you can PM me or quote me on advice on how to get Work Experience, Voluntary Work or anything else, I'm researched a lot of Med School Unis quite extensively, it's actually a little embarrassing.

    Please Note: That I'm not trying to brag or 'show off' on what I have done so far or trying to belittle anyone; I'm literally so worried that I'm not going to be good enough for UCL, or any medical school, and I'm not here to ask if I am either, but I would just like to know how I can improve my Application.
    Anything will be helpful; thank you! 


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    (Original post by DrumChops)
    Ahh thanks for that! Good luck for when you begin
    Thank you! I can't wait

    (Original post by raveen789)
    Do they send you a paper or something a week before the interview?
    They sent us an email with an attachment of and link to a BMJ article (for us it was Tony Nicklinson's assisted suicide case) and told us to research ethics to do with it as they wanted to ask us what we thought. I massively over prepared and babbled in the interview, oops

    Barts is very communicative with email, they send a LOT. They don't send many letters.
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    (Original post by WannabeDoctor03)
    Hey guys,

    So I'm going into Year 12 right now and my GCSE scores were a little mediocre (2A*s in Maths and History, 7As in Spanish, English Language, Bio, Chem, Physics, English Literature and Art, and 1B in French ) My results are good but they're not brilliant, especially considering I go to a Grammar School.
    I'm taking Bio, Chem, Maths, History and General Studies for AS and will probably be dropping Maths and General Studies at A2. I'm obviously aiming for 4/5 As at the end of AS and all As at least at the end of A2. I've identified what I did wrong at GCSE (NOT ENOUGH REVISION ) and plan to work much harder at A Level from the first lesson.
    I volunteer once a week in the small Chapel at my local Hospital, transporting patients from their ward to the Chapel and also volunteer regularly at one of the small shops in the same Hospital which raises money for the Hospital (last year they raised aprox. £100,000)
    I've also volunteered at a GP for one week and spent one week at 6 six different departments at a Hospital (ranging from A&E to Radiology to Surgery- It was Great!) I also do a lot of extra curricular activities at my school, ranging from Debate Club to Head of School Council) I speak 3 different languages fluently, not including English, two of which I taught myself (even though my first language is English) and I have been altar serving for the past nine years.

    My current Uni choices are
    1. UCL (first choice)
    2. Either Cambridge or Barts
    3. Bristol
    4. Leicester

    Even though, whilst typing all of this out, I was thinking 'Wow, I've done quite a bit of stuff', I know how competitive Medicine is, especially at UCL which is where I've been dreaming to go for as long as I can remember.

    I know my GCSEs put me at a disadvantage, but if there is even the slightest way to improve my Application, could you please please reply to this post.
    Even if you don't have anything to contribute, you can PM me or quote me on advice on how to get Work Experience, Voluntary Work or anything else, I'm researched a lot of Med School Unis quite extensively, it's actually a little embarrassing.

    Please Note: That I'm not trying to brag or 'show off' on what I have done so far or trying to belittle anyone; I'm literally so worried that I'm not going to be good enough for UCL, or any medical school, and I'm not here to ask if I am either, but I would just like to know how I can improve my Application.
    Anything will be helpful; thank you! 


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    Hi there! My GCSEs weren't great by most med applicant standards (3A* 3A 1B) so I applied to unis with lower GCSE requirements - Barts, Kings, Bristol, BSMS. I got an offer from Barts

    Your GCSEs are more than enough for many med schools if you apply wisely, just look up their admissions policies. Barts only requires Bs in Maths and English IIRC, and doesn't look at GCSEs when deciding.

    Just make sure you can get 3As predicted and a good UKCAT
    Edit: your extracurricular stuff is far more than what I did and as long as you can talk about what you learned from your work exp/volunteering you'll be fine.
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    I have ukcat 715 and ucas 540ish(tbc). That's alright to apply for barts right? And will they be using the SJT bands?
 
 
 
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