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    (Original post by fojodef)
    yea but africa doesnt really mean anything. especially considering Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and Algeria which I thought were part of Africa were apparently part of the "Arab" Spring.
    We do share many things with the arabs, religious and cultural affinity and geographical proximity.
    But we are not arabs.
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    (Original post by Al-farhan)
    We do share many things with the arabs, religious and cultural affinity and geographical proximity.
    But we are not arabs.
    yea i've noticed this. somalis tend to try and avoid answering. or like they'll say there black in the uk. but then somalis i've met in marseille who chill with north africans who say their arab.

    n then i meet somalis who say their neither and that somalis are just a unique anomaly
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    Salam, Ramadan Kareem. How's your fasting going everyone?
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    (Original post by Al-farhan)
    True, but for traditionally for us it is a daily kind of thing for breaking fast with other forms of pastry.
    During Ramadan or just in general? I only have it during Ramadan, but not everyday as its pretty filling. What about cambuulo?
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    (Original post by fojodef)
    you know how somalias part of the arab union. and how somalis call actual black people bantu. what are somalis? black or arab?
    We are black & African my friend. Anyone who tells you otherwise should probably go educate themselves.
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    (Original post by SophiaLDN)
    We are black & African my friend. Anyone who tells you otherwise should probably go educate themselves.
    Like the somali government who became part of the arab union?

    also how come you call black people bantu?
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    (Original post by fojodef)
    you know how somalias part of the arab union. and how somalis call actual black people bantu. what are somalis? black or arab?
    Some are black, some are mixed-race. Doesn't get much more clearer that that
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    (Original post by fojodef)
    yea i've noticed this. somalis tend to try and avoid answering. or like they'll say there black in the uk. but then somalis i've met in marseille who chill with north africans who say their arab.

    n then i meet somalis who say their neither and that somalis are just a unique anomaly
    "i meet somalis who say their neither and that somalis are just a unique anomaly"

    Yep, that's me and anyone who claims otherwise is *facepalm*. Skin doesn't determine race but genetics do.

    However we are Africans and share this continent with the many beautiful people of south, west, north and central Africa.

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    (Original post by SophiaLDN)
    We are black & African my friend. Anyone who tells you otherwise should probably go educate themselves.
    We are African
    And on what basis are we black?
    Any evidence? Or is it just because we are dark skin? If so then, the native aboriginals and small minorities of India are all black (by your logic).

    Don't tell other people to educate themselves...
    Race is not based on "colour of skin". :facepalm:
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    (Original post by Abdul-Karim)
    Some are black, some are mixed-race. Doesn't get much more clearer that that
    Ahahaha, no somalis are arab or black other then reer xamar and bantu respectively.

    I hate when people claim we are arab the most. We share more dna with Russians mate then arabs, if you want to play that game. :ahee:



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    (Original post by fojodef)
    Like the somali government who became part of the arab union?

    also how come you call black people bantu?
    Is being black synonymous with being a Bantu?

    We are black and closely related to other cu****ic speakers in the horn of Africa.

    Bantus are called bantus because we have a significant minority of them in our country and that's what international organisations have called them, we call them something different.


    Other minorities are probably descendants from Arabs / Persians such as the barawa people who live in the southern coast.

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    Just :lol:^^^
    :ahee:

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    (Original post by Umar1)
    Is being black synonymous with being a Bantu?

    We are black and closely related to other cu****ic speakers in the horn of Africa.

    Bantus are called bantus because we have a significant minority of them in our country and that's what international organisations have called them, we call them something different.


    Other minorities are probably descendants from Arabs / Persians such as the barawa people who live in the southern coast.

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    well i just noticed you seem to call eveyone who is black bantu. from Kenyans to DRC to South Africans to Nigerians

    you say you call them something different. what is it?
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    (Original post by fojodef)
    well i just noticed you seem to call eveyone who is black bantu. from Kenyans to DRC to South Africans to Nigerians

    you say you call them something different. what is it?
    Jareer - hard hair.
    Madow - black.

    It's so derogatory ugh. :hand:
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    (Original post by missfats)
    Jareer - hard hair.
    Madow - black.

    It's so derogatory ugh. :hand:
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    i can see why Jareer is maybe derogatory

    but what about Madow? is there some time of history to the word.

    i know someone told me that the somali word for ******* was to basically call someone the name of this obscure tribe that had a history of incest or something.
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    (Original post by fojodef)
    i can see why Jareer is maybe derogatory

    but what about Madow? is there some time of history to the word.

    i know someone told me that the somali word for ******* was to basically call someone the name of this obscure tribe that had a history of incest or something.
    Madow is usually used in a negative way. Also, bantus were bought in somali via slavery, so they seen as "inferior" especially by somali elders.

    Idk about that! But nevertheless it is a superiority complex.. these somalis posses and they seriously need to get rid of this backward thought process.

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    (Original post by missfats)
    Madow is usually used in a negative way. Also, bantus were bought in somali via slavery, so they seen as "inferior" especially by somali elders.

    Idk about that! But nevertheless it is a superiority complex.. these somalis posses and they seriously need to get rid of this backward thought process.

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    Madow just means black. I don't know who uses it in a derogatory way but it's just stating a fact. For example if you or I used the word madow to describe someone would that be derogatory? I don't think so. Jareer on the other hand is a whole other story though

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    (Original post by themorninglight)
    Madow just means black. I don't know who uses it in a derogatory way but it's just stating a fact. For example if you or I used the word madow to describe someone would that be derogatory? I don't think so. Jareer on the other hand is a whole other story though

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    could be like the word paki.
    like we SHOULD call pakistanis pakis
    Afghanistan = Land of the Afghans
    Kazakhstan = Land of the Kazakhs
    Kyrgyzstan = Land of the Kyrgyz
    Tajikistan = Land of the Tajiks
    Turkmenistan = Land of the Turkmen
    Uzbekistan = Land of the Uzbeks

    Pakistan = Land of the Pakis (aka Land of the Pure)

    but so many people call pakistani people pakis in a negative way that they basically had to change the name.
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    (Original post by themorninglight)
    Madow just means black. I don't know who uses it in a derogatory way but it's just stating a fact. For example if you or I used the word madow to describe someone would that be derogatory? I don't think so. Jareer on the other hand is a whole other story though

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    Well in my experience, madow is some times said in a negative way. The word itself isn't derogatory.

    Idk.

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    (Original post by fojodef)
    well i just noticed you seem to call eveyone who is black bantu. from Kenyans to DRC to South Africans to Nigerians

    you say you call them something different. what is it?
    By their clan. Like ethnic Somalis, Bantus in Somalia also have tribes and sub clans. Bantu is the official term for them however, they are also called jareers.

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