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    (Original post by Gherk)
    It's not just graduates that are having difficulties. It's incredibly difficult to find any job in general. I've been applying to every vacant part-time retail, warehouse and IT job, with no success, for over a month now. People that have never worked before aren't given a chance for even the most menial of jobs, and it's frankly depressing.
    Yeah its true, thats why poundland are hiring people on those work trials £2.18 or whatever is an hour.
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    People need to start realising that a 2:2 is worth nothing. Working in a supermarket for 3 years would give you better skills and knowledge.
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    (Original post by SloaneRanger)
    But at the same time your talking about great grades, great unis amd your hate for those that get them.
    Dont hate these people, no idea where this comes from - it is just the arrogance and pretentious that I hate from a minority.
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    (Original post by fat_hobbit)
    Dont hate these people, no idea where this comes from - it is just the arrogance and pretentious that I hate from a minority.
    Your obviously smart by getting a decent grade from an alright uni, why not hate on the people that stopped you from achieving more? Only you know your potential and if you have achieved it.
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    (Original post by MUN123)
    I graduated last month with a 2:2 in Computer science and since then I have been applying for graduate jobs non-stop with a lot of rejections. I then had to sign on JSA, now the Job center are advising me to work for free for 2 weeks in a call center to get "experience" which I've refused because I dislike to be exploited by the company and work for free in a field that does not interest me.

    I explained to the Job centers that I'm interested in IT jobs to which they replied that they would not be paying me benefits so that I could sit and wait for a very specific job. And after applying to loads of minimum wage jobs and getting loads of rejections they want me to work for free in some crappy job to get experience.

    The other day they sent me to a compulsory course which explained about how to use the internet to apply for jobs I thought it was laughable they must be stuck in the 90's. They have no clue on how to deal with graduates

    I understand your frustration, you have made an investment. You have invested your time, energy and money and you quite rightfully expect a return on that investment.

    Try and look at it like this.

    returns on investments depend on many factors. At the moment the time isn't quite right (with the economy) to expect an immediate return. You have to bide your time and play it smart.

    Employers prefer to employ people with recent work experience (preferably already employed). So if you land a minimum wage retail job you are putting yourself in a much better position to see that much anticipated return for all that hard work.

    Letting a sense of entitlement cloud your judgement, will eventually make you bitter, fussy and unprepared for the world of work.
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    (Original post by SloaneRanger)
    They are paid well because its an indemnified risk to do the job. Health problems can arise as a result of the job itself.
    That's true. Their good pay is mainly down to powerful unions and the effects on bin men strikes (heard it was bad in the 80s)
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    (Original post by alapa)
    That's true. Their good pay is mainly down to powerful unions and the effects on bin men strikes (heard it was bad in the 80s)
    Even nowadays i would recommend any graduate to join a union when starting up with a company, its worth that peace of mind.
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    (Original post by Tom_Ford)
    What? I got a 2.1 from a RG uni in Law with relatively minimal work. I am still out of a job since graduation in 2013. It is very difficult out there, very few jobs to give and intense competition.
    People like you disgust me, freeloading off the welfare state when you are clearly capable of working.

    Dole scroungers make me so mad.
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    (Original post by alapa)
    I understand your frustration, you have made an investment. You have invested your time, energy and money and you quite rightfully expect a return on that investment.

    Try and look at it like this.

    returns on investments depend on many factors. At the moment the time isn't quite right (with the economy) to expect an immediate return. You have to bide your time and play it smart.

    Employers prefer to employ people with recent work experience (preferably already employed). So if you land a minimum wage retail job you are putting yourself in a much better position to see that much anticipated return for all that hard work.

    Letting a sense of entitlement cloud your judgement, will eventually make you bitter, fussy and unprepared for the world of work.
    Regardless of his degee working in a call centre, i doubt he could hack, its a high pressured environment. Going to university is a doddle, building up call time and spending 6-7 hours a day on a phone is more draining. He should watch the call centre on bbc and see challenging working in one is, he has to earn the right to do the job first. Working for free to show he can do it is the norm in this day and age with certain kinds of grads.
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    (Original post by SloaneRanger)
    Regardless of his degee working in a call centre, i doubt he could hack, its a high pressured environment. Going to university is a doddle, building up call time and spending 6-7 hours a day on a phone is more draining. He should watch the call centre on bbc and see challenging working in one is, he has to earn the right to do the job first. Working for free to show he can do it is the norm in this day and age with certain kinds of grads.
    If the OP has an attitude change I'm sure he could hack it eventually. I agree btw unpaid work experience is a very very useful tool for becoming employable and some people turn their noses up at it. Being able to study at university gives you excellent transferable skills, but its not enough these days. Employers want to see work experience.
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    (Original post by SmashingChap)
    People like you disgust me, freeloading off the welfare state when you are clearly capable of working.

    Dole scroungers make me so mad.
    I am not on the dole, never collected any welfare in my life. I think this is your American mental problems coming through, you are famous for delusions.
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    (Original post by MUN123)
    I graduated last month with a 2:2 in Computer science and since then I have been applying for graduate jobs non-stop with a lot of rejections. I then had to sign on JSA, now the Job center are advising me to work for free for 2 weeks in a call center to get "experience" which I've refused because I dislike to be exploited by the company and work for free in a field that does not interest me.

    I explained to the Job centers that I'm interested in IT jobs to which they replied that they would not be paying me benefits so that I could sit and wait for a very specific job. And after applying to loads of minimum wage jobs and getting loads of rejections they want me to work for free in some crappy job to get experience.

    The other day they sent me to a compulsory course which explained about how to use the internet to apply for jobs I thought it was laughable they must be stuck in the 90's. They have no clue on how to deal with graduates
    This is a good point.
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    (Original post by alapa)
    If the OP has an attitude change I'm sure he could hack it eventually. I agree btw unpaid work experience is a very very useful tool for becoming employable and some people turn their noses up at it. Being able to study at university gives you excellent transferable skills, but its not enough these days. Employers want to see work experience.
    Yeah, what he fails to recognise he isn't working for free, he is getting JSA on a work trial. They could cut him off for not doing, its effectively a wage. We are so lucky in this country, whether i was getting £9-10 an hour or £45-50k a year the satisfaction of doing a days work and open that payslip is priceless.
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    (Original post by SloaneRanger)
    Yeah, what he fails to recognise he isn't working for free, he is getting JSA on a work trial. They could cut him off for not doing, its effectively a wage. We are so lucky in this country, whether i was getting £9-10 an hour or £45-50k a year the satisfaction of doing a days work and open that payslip is priceless.
    I was on JSA last year and asked for work experience because I was bored out of my mind. Best thing I ever did.
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    (Original post by SmashingChap)
    So you've been sponging of mom and pop then? Typical spoilt brat.
    So only aristocrats can do that can they? You almost sound like a socialist :confused:

    What's it like on the other side?
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    (Original post by Tom_Ford)
    "Proper workers"...

    "Workers of the world unite!"

    Never thought I would come across an American Communist. You are like an extinct form of nonce, I thought the American government purged you all in the Cold War or something like that...

    American + Communist = what an abominable combination, I do shudder at the though.

    http://russiatrek.org/blog/wp-conten...-posters-1.jpg
    I think we've uncovered the reason for your unemployment. You're a moron.
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    (Original post by Tom_Ford)
    "Proper workers"...

    "Workers of the world unite!"

    Never thought I would come across an American Communist. You are like an extinct form of nonce, I thought the American government purged you all in the Cold War or something like that...

    American + Communist = what an abominable combination, perish the thought.

    http://russiatrek.org/blog/wp-conten...-posters-1.jpg
    Wow. You're special.
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    (Original post by SmashingChap)
    I think we've uncovered the reason for your unemployment. You're a moron.
    I think you got a 2.2
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    (Original post by Tom_Ford)
    I think you got a 2.2
    You just had a thought :O well done Tom! Possibly your first ever.

    I got a 1st and have worked through my life, I cannot imagine the shame of being unemployed for so long.

    A bit off topic, but do you sit in your BMW and stare at couples while they make out?
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    (Original post by SmashingChap)
    A bit off topic, but do you sit in your BMW and stare at couples while they make out?
    Bahahahaha..
 
 
 
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