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    (Original post by SmashConcept)
    The number 1 item on his list is being used as a political football.

    Your response to this is to go ahead and use him as a political football.

    Just copy and paste the top couple of posts from /r/theredpill next time. Or better yet, try not sharing your opinion on this particular issue :dontknow:
    wut? I thought we were in agreement that there are feminazis

    There is no other way of sharing his story but him being used as a political football lol
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    (Original post by macromicro)
    That link is irrelevant. We are discussing domestic abuse.

    90% of sexual domestic violence is against females, by the way.
    you mean 90% of DV statistics disclosed to the general public, indeed 90% of reported DV stats. I would imagine the figure is closer to 75 female-25 male.
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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    you mean 90% of DV statistics disclosed to the general public, indeed 90% of reported DV stats. I would imagine the figure is closer to 75 female-25 male.
    It's impossible to say.

    But even your speculative statistic shows a huge and significant gap between male and female victims.
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    (Original post by macromicro)
    It's impossible to say.

    But even your speculative statistic shows a huge and significant gap between male and female victims.
    my intention would never be to belittle female victims of rape, merely disillusionment about the way male victims are ridiculed or otherwise silenced.
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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    wut? I thought we were in agreement that there are feminazis

    There is no other way of sharing his story but him being used as a political football lol
    I have no idea how you reached the conclusion that we are in agreement about anything in particular, let alone the existence of nefarious feminazis coming in force to take our men's rights. I also have no idea how you think that would be relevant. I think most of my discourse with you has consisted of either strong disagreement or outright befuddlement on my part, this being an example of the latter.

    In any case there are many, many ways of discussing male rape without bringing it up in the context of a childish debate as to whether men are more or less privileged than women. You just appear to be incapable of finding them, which is why I recommended that you don't bring the issue up at all.

    (Original post by macromicro)
    Another non-response.

    Go back to chat; the society forum is for debate and discussion, not empty one-liners.
    I hope that if you read my post more closely you might eventually realize that I was agreeing with you, which is a perfectly acceptable thing to do in a discussion forum.
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    (Original post by SmashConcept)
    I have no idea how you reached the conclusion that we are in agreement about anything in particular, let alone the existence of nefarious feminazis coming in force to take our men's rights. I also have no idea how you think that would be relevant. I think most of my discourse with you has consisted of either strong disagreement or outright befuddlement on my part, this being an example of the latter.

    In any case there are many, many ways of discussing male rape without bringing it up in the context of a childish debate as to whether men are more or less privileged than women. You just appear to be incapable of finding them, which is why I recommended that you don't bring the issue up at all.


    I hope that if you read my post more closely you might eventually realize that I was agreeing with you, which is a perfectly acceptable thing to do in a discussion forum.
    hmmm.

    Patriarchal privilege has always come with the caveat of male disposability.

    There are very few ways imo, the only issues separate to any discussion of female rape are i) related to stigma on the idea of males being submissive or victims (internalised misogyny) and ii) some discussion of the legal definition of rape
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    (Original post by SmashConcept)
    It's almost as if you think shrink4men.com is not a 100% reliable source. Next you will be telling us that the article on "Why Your Wife's Excuses for Not Working Are Lame" may contain inaccuracies too! Or perhaps the fairly uncontroversial piece entitled "Men Have Emotions, but Women Don't Listen."

    I think it's pretty disappointing that the feminazis have obviously got to you and smeared 41b's perfectly reputable source :nn:
    oh this was entirely sarcasm
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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    oh this was entirely sarcasm
    Thank you.
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    (Original post by macromicro)
    There is no sign of agreement in any of your replies to me. You also seem to think you have disagreed with Smash Bandicoot yet he believes the opposite - are you sure you even know what you're typing and where? Here are your two replies:

    Clear disagreement, no rebuttal.
    Smash Bandicoot managed to identify my sarcasm on his second attempt. Keep trying :yy:
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    (Original post by SmashConcept)
    Smash Bandicoot managed to identify my sarcasm on his second attempt. Keep trying :yy:
    Christ, I deleted that within 10 seconds of posting.

    Sarcasm doesn't lend well to written communication, least of all to debate on a sensitive issue. I have not spoken to you before - Smash Bandicoot clearly has many times, and hence understands your tone/inclination to be sarcastic.
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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    my intention would never be to belittle female victims of rape, merely disillusionment about the way male victims are ridiculed or otherwise silenced.
    Of course, but I never said or implied the opposite so I'm failing to see what your point is.
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    Why is males being vocal supposed to be a bad thing?
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    (Original post by yo radical one)
    I always wonder why feminists (most of whom are white themselves) are so obsessed with White men. White/Western culture is probably the feminised and most gynocentric, I mean this is the race which gave you Ed Sheeran, who is hardly this ruthless agent of the patriarchy.
    couldn't agree more man, i'm white and it pisses me off.
    i have nothing against feminism as an ideology; a goal of equal rights and opportunities.
    what i do have a problem with though is the misuse and misunderstanding of what feminism actually is.

    i see so many pseudo-feminists who use the movement as an excuse to berate men for their own deranged personal reasons.
    they don't want gender equality, they want female superiority (as evidenced by their apparent hatred of males).
    if i were a "true" feminist, i would be very disappointed and offended at how many people bandwagon in this way, completely ignoring the real aims of feminism; merely attributing their own as they see fit.

    one thing worth thinking about though:
    to what extent should equality be reached for two genders that are fundamentally different in a great number of ways (biologically, behaviourally, socially, etc...)?
    should typical social convention and tradition be changed?
    should female benefits both good and bad be abolished in order to level the field?
    should men for example stop paying for everything on dates because that would not display equal gender roles in a social environment?

    overall it feels like many people are using their mouth rather than their mind.

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    P.S: i happen to find Ed Sheeran to be an exceptionally talented individual
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    There are indeed a lot of 'smart' people on TSR who think they are ****ing gift sent from God to explain us their enlightening crap by making up poshy, irrelevant,pretentious and nonsensical arguments - some of them are funny, some mind numbingly stupid and judgemental. You'll learn to ignore them. The thing is, everyone can say their opinion and well trained trolls can make up crap about why they are right better. Don't take things personally.
    It's TSR, you'll love it
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    (Original post by SiminaM)
    There are indeed a lot of 'smart' people on TSR who think they are ****ing gift sent from God to explain us their enlightening crap by making up poshy, irrelevant,pretentious and nonsensical arguments - some of them are funny, some mind numbingly stupid and judgemental. You'll learn to ignore them. The thing is, everyone can say their opinion and well trained trolls can make up crap about why they are right better. Don't take things personally.
    It's TSR, you'll love it
    As opposed to your meticulously fleshed out argument of I was told it should be this way therefore it should be so? :laugh:
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    (Original post by ilem)
    As opposed to your meticulously fleshed out argument of I was told it should be this way therefore it should be so? :laugh:
    I didn't try to make an argument, just said how I see things.
    I was told it should be this way therefore it should be so? - huh? I don't get it... :confused:
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    I just don't understand the personal attacks on this site.
    I feel as though manners are left at the door because unlike in real life, there are no consequences for being impolite.
    I don't understand why people think this makes it okay, the internet is a social situation like any other and clearly isn't a 'liveable' environment for everyone (with people's being chased away by the personal attacks and their opinions being ridiculed,) when certain groups don't behave in a civilised manner.
    It's not okay to make people feel unwelcome because you believe they're a lesser human being than you. Who gave you that right?


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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    What do you think?

    I have noticed that responses to most threads, apart from the degree/ offer holder/ job threads, posts start off being quite respectful, sociable and reasonable, and then the same names appear, and give their arrogant, narcissistic, self-centered, 'logical' and judgmental opinions. They are always male, often white, usually heterosexual. It's almost like a mental illness a lot of them have. I say white because most people in UK are white, and most users are from UK, and many of them have photos of themselves. But not always white(!).

    I've also noticed that they tend to dominate discussions on TSR. The same few boys/ young men appear everywhere, they are abusive, rude and dismissive and literally have acquired 'legend' status because of it. Does anyone else find this disturbing. I am new to TSR, why is this? Is this a thing you all know about?

    Also, I see the word sexist and misandry being used a lot, against the female posters who are brave enough to actually speak. This is something I've not encountered irl and my friendship group is mixed! Who are these boys/men? And why does everyone accept their abuse? I've literally watched threads descend into hatred, female posters being attacked for the views, or male posters saying the same thing, after abusing them, and being congratulated for their insight.

    I feel like there's something I'm missing Is there rule about males/females on here? Why are people so rude here?

    I thought about leaving because, was quite shocked, but you can't leave.There is no deactivate button? So would love to hear from people and your views, especially posters that don't usually post at all or feel silenced.

    Thanks
    Think about it. It's a reaction to the political correctness that people have been bombarded with for years.

    This political correctness is not just some joke. Peoples homelands are being changed beyond recognition in Europe. This is a similar thing to what happened in Palestine except it's being done through stealth not the gun.

    Tony Blair changed the face of Britain perhaps forever and his establishment tried to enforce an Orwellian type language to stop people discussing it. Discussing it was called racism.

    The Internet has become the forum where people can discuss freely what is going on.


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    (Original post by Ikidyounot.)
    Aside from this thread being subsumed by the exact posters OP intimated, who tend to dominate discussions all over TSR, it also reveals other things which may explain why this happens.

    Said posters are clearly narcissistic, but this mind-set is reinforced by their interactions with other people. Critical thinkers, women, ethnic minorities, sexual minorities, people that cut across more than one of these social categories, and open-minded people across the board might interject, in the form of posts, threads, and discussions, but the fact remains that on this forum and irl, selfish, egotistical behaviour and an unflinching belief in a particular thought system (Science, political theory, economics) pays and is rewarded.

    Why would you change if you were on the winning team. Especially if all you've been taught all your life, is the importance of winning. You would need to be empathetic, compassionate or both and/or an imagination. This doesn't come naturally to everyone, and isn't necessary for some people to get on in life.
    Hang on... How do you get "narcissist" and "egotistical behaviour" from people discussing ideas contrary to the mainstream under a pseudonym? Do you have to be selfish to to have seen where we've been and where we're heading?

    What you're saying is this: all dissenters of the contemporary political regime have a mental disorder and must be 1. not taken seriously and 2. silenced when possible. What this is is self-censorship; you're doing your leaders a loyal favour and your country a disservice.
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    (Original post by Ikidyounot.)
    Great post.
    Thank you very much.


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