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    Wu-Tang Clan ain't nuttin to **** wit!
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    (Original post by The_Internet)
    Maybe. Huh, Ive never actually heard of that. Looking it up now. And thanks
    He was very extreme before the post Relapse era, Kim, Kill You and Criminal are the first tracks that stick out as being particularly shocking in terms of the content, his first album flopped and he came back with a **** the world persona - Slim Shady. If you're a fan of Eminem I'd suggest getting the Slim Shady LP and the Marshall Mathers LP, both of these are his most critically acclaimed albums. If you've not heard them you're in for a treat.
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    (Original post by jedanselemyia)
    I've said SOME not ALL, obviously
    Almost everything time I mention this issue on this forum, it seems that some user (most likely white) is going to "attack" me on how dumb, outdated and racist this concept is.
    Racism is a pyramidal construct that goes from microagressions to full blown genocides:

    Now, I agree that generally, we find ourselves in the lower strates of the pyramid (but that depends on the country: look at the USA) but that doesn't mean that racism or the concept of white privilege is completely outdated and stupid. That's just trying to ignore reality lol
    I've based myself on the essay by Peggy McIntosh (she's white by the way) entitled "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Backpack". She gives a list of all the privileges that white people enjoy in American society, but I'm sure that a lot of people would recognise themselves in these:
    1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
    2. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.
    3. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.
    4. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.
    5. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.
    6. When I am told about our national heritage or about “civilization,” I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.
    7. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.
    8. If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.
    9. I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of my race represented, into a supermarket and find the staple foods which fit with my cultural traditions, into a hairdresser’s shop and find someone who can cut my hair.
    10. Whether I checks, credit cards, or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of financial reliability.
    11. I can arrange to protect my children most of the time from people who might not like them.
    12. I can swear, or dress in second hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty, or the illiteracy of my race.
    13. I can speak in public to a powerful male group without putting my race on trial.
    14. I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.
    15. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group.
    16. I can remain oblivious of the language and customs of persons of color who constitute the world’s majority without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion.
    17. I can criticize our government and talk about how much I fear its policies and behavior without being seen as a cultural outsider.
    18. I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk to “the person in charge,” I will be facing a person of my race.
    19. If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven’t been singled out because of my race.
    20. I can easily buy posters, postcards, picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys, and children’s magazine featuring people of my race.
    21. I can go home from most meetings of organizations I belong to feeling somewhat tied in, rather than isolated, out-of-place, outnumbered, unheard, held at a distance, or feared.
    22. I can take a job with an affirmative action employer without having co-workers on the job suspect that I got it because of race.
    23. I can choose public accommodation without fearing that people of my race cannot get in or will be mistreated in the places I have chosen.
    24. I can be sure that if I need legal or medical help, my race will not work against me.
    25. If my day, week, or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether it has racial overtones.
    26. I can choose blemish cover or bandages in “flesh” color and have them more or less match my skin.


    I added a new one: When traveling to a country, I don't think my race will be a disadvantage


    I'm genuinely trying to understand some people just can't get this. And please, no rude comments.
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    Tell you what, if you go to a job interview and they ask you why do you think you're fit for the job, tell them "because I am white".
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    (Original post by LaMandarine)
    Tell you what, if you go to a job interview and they ask you why do you think you're fit for the job, tell them "because I am white".
    I tried that and they thought I was mad
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    (Original post by demx9)
    Excuse me, but was I supposed to feel embarrassed or laugh at that?
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    Ridiculous and over generalised in my opinion
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    (Original post by jedanselemyia)
    Excuse me, but was I supposed to feel embarrassed or laugh at that?
    embarrassed
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    (Original post by demx9)
    embarrassed
    Ok. I didn't happen.
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    (Original post by jedanselemyia)
    Ok. I didn't happen.
    seriously though, why do you care so much about this ?
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    (Original post by demx9)
    seriously though, why do you care so much about this ?
    I do because I feel like it matters and it is a problem in Western society. It hurts a bit when people tell you to go **** yourself because you mention it or when people post discrediting pictures to make you seem stupid. I really thought about creating this thread or not and I realise I probably shouldn't have because they're no sense of achievement and it didn't go anywhere.
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    (Original post by jedanselemyia)
    I do because I feel like it matters and it is a problem in Western society. It hurts a bit when people tell you to go **** yourself because you mention it or when people post discrediting pictures to make you seem stupid. I really thought about creating this thread or not and I realise I probably shouldn't have because they're no sense of achievement and it didn't go anywhere.
    whites will always have some kind of privilege in their own countries .. I don't see a big problem there
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    (Original post by demx9)
    whites will always have some kind of privilege in their own countries .. I don't see a big problem there
    Ah well
    No point discussing then
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    I certainly think it's an interesting issue to raise and discuss. I do think there are some stronger points rather than being bogged down in discussing plasters and rappers, which probably hindered the legitimacy of the argument slightly
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    (Original post by footchemllab)
    I certainly think it's an interesting issue to raise and discuss. I do think there are some stronger points rather than being bogged down in discussing plasters and rappers, which probably hindered the legitimacy of the argument slightly
    You're right...
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    (Original post by jedanselemyia)
    You're right...
    It's a good issue to raise though for sure, and just because a lot of people in this thread haven't experienced it doesn't make it non-existent. I'd like to think we have progressed as a society since 1988 however and hopefully we'll continue to progress further!
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    (Original post by footchemllab)
    It's a good issue to raise though for sure, and just because a lot of people in this thread haven't experienced it doesn't make it non-existent. I'd like to think we have progressed as a society since 1988 however and hopefully we'll continue to progress further!
    Try explaining that to a brick wall...
    Of course! That's all I wish for but it's not the case for this and other issues :\
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    (Original post by jedanselemyia)
    It may seem very ridiculous at first, but it means that most products are catered towards white customers
    KFC???
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    (Original post by demx9)
    whites will always have some kind of privilege in their own countries .. I don't see a big problem there
    Why do you think that?

    (Not trying to argue here just want to see another point of view)
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    I think that the problem with privilege is that we all have certain privileges and certain disadvantages, and you can soon get yourself into a tangle with them.

    For example, I am white. Does this have its benefits? Yes. It would be silly to deny that.

    However, I am also an immigrant. Considering there is a bit of an anti-immigration sentiment in some corners, that can be a disadvantage. Still, because I am a white immigrant, I'll have some advantages - in a white majority country, people don't really notice it until I open my mouth and they hear my accent.

    I am a woman, and that has upsides and downsides.

    I also have a disability, which doesn't affect my quality of life as much as some other disabilities will affect other people, so I am privileged in that respect, yet disadvantaged in others.

    And so on.

    Balancing all that out, it would be tricky to say what helps me and what hinders me. If I weren't to get a job, is it because I am an immigrant? A woman? Have a disability? Or is it simply the case that there are better, more qualified candidates? I always go with the last scenario. Most people are pretty fair, though there are always some who make negative judgements based on race, gender, etc.
 
 
 

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