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    (Original post by Saint-Saens)
    Why is an Irishman considered the same race as a Greek but not a Moroccan?
    He informed me of this. Apparently Irish people were a tribe in Morocco and then migrated to Iberia near Spain, and then were nomads to the land of what is now Britain.
    A Moroccan on the other hand has mixing subsequent of migration and imperialism. It is not a natural trait for a Moroccan to have fair eyes, for example. It is for white people.
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    (Original post by Truths)
    ***** hush. I just did.
    Reported.
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    (Original post by Saint-Saens)
    Ethnicity is not a social construct. No-one 'constructed it'. It came about (and comes about naturally). Race on the other hand is.

    Why is an Irishman considered the same race as a Greek but not a Moroccan?
    How did it come about naturally?
    And they're not considered the same race.
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    delusional people lol.

    Anyway, This Ethiopian girl seems to think I'm angry , so I think it's best to leave her thread to her.



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    (Original post by leroythelost)
    Yes races are genetic and when people say "race is a social construct" most of them mean that mean races are based not appearance and not as much genetics. As there is alot of genetic differences between groups in Europe but for some reason there all considered one race.
    I'm going by the scientific definition of race. White is not a race.
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    (Original post by Sweet n Sour)
    I was just thinking about your post. Ok what is the history of racial classification, then?
    Idk, I'm not an anthropologist. I suppose it depends on whether you're asking for a social opinion or a phenotypical one.
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    (Original post by leroythelost)
    Yes races are genetic and when people say "race is a social construct" most of them mean that mean races are based not appearance and not as much genetics. As there is alot of genetic differences between groups in Europe but for some reason there all considered one race.
    Um no. Show me the chromosome for race.

    It doesn't exist. Race is loosely based on biology. There is more genetic variation within races than outside of them.
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    (Original post by Eithriall)
    That is why you're shunned, because you are not Black nor White




    Race mixing is evil and causes all kinds of problems


    People who think it is anti racist LOL any slut can spread their leg and get pregnant


    Most mixed race marriages never last I have rarely ever seen a mixed race couple irl with their kids...
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    (Original post by missfats)
    delusional people lol.

    Anyway, This Ethiopian girl seems to think I'm angry , so I think it's best to leave her thread to her.



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    I'm not Ethiopian and I know you're angry because you put caps lock on and you're providing nothing except for insults like "ignorant and delusional." You debate like a menstrual thirteen year old. Please do leave, no one takes you seriously anyway. And I am not a girl; I'm a woman. You however fail to accept proof and facts posted by several people that Somalis have Arabic, Euro and West Asian blood types. All you can do is say "I'm Somali; take my word for it, you don't know because you're not Somali." Ugh, dismiss yourself and gtf up out my office.
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    (Original post by Drunk Punx)
    Idk, I'm not an anthropologist. I suppose it depends on whether you're asking for a social opinion or a phenotypical one.
    Your opinion
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    (Original post by Sweet n Sour)
    Lol at your last sentence. Yes, please leave the house. My race is irrelevant, you can see what gives me reason to be concerned about this is all.
    Yes because fully African negroids embraced non fully negroids as just black, it has caused many problems where some now don't want to except partly negroid people as black. It has caused a lot of confusion among 'blacks'. Some fully blacks also say lighter skinned/mixed blacks are treated better so they don't want to except them. Also what's it to you if fully blacks don't except you, you are mixed in reality so if shouldn't bother you. All in all negroids and partly negroid people have themselves to blame.
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    (Original post by Truths)
    Um no. Show me the chromosome for race.

    It doesn't exist. Race is loosely based on biology. There is more genetic variation within races than outside of them.
    Anyway do you class Somalis as black or not? That is the discussion.
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    (Original post by Sweet n Sour)
    I'm not Ethiopian and I know you're angry because you put caps lock on and you're providing nothing except for insults like "ignorant and delusional." You debate like a menstrual thirteen year old. Please do leave, no one takes you seriously anyway. And I am not a girl; I'm a woman. You however fail to accept proof and facts posted by several people that Somalis have Arabic, Euro and West Asian blood types. All you can do is say "I'm Somali; take my word for it, you don't know because you're not Somali." Ugh, dismiss yourself and gtf up out my office.
    Says to me I insult people and then insults

    lol.

    says to me I am angry but is angry herself "ugh, dismiss yourself and gtfo"

    bless you.
    Somalis are (homogeneous ) not mixed.
    stop kidding yourself.


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    (Original post by anonymouspie227)
    Thanks for your reply too. On a side note- I think the Somalia discussion was quite interesting too. I do think that there is an inclination to reject blackness. I wonder why people say that somalis have Caucasian features, can they not just inherently have these features themselves. I feel like its a very Eurocentric view to suggest that somalis are dark caucasians. Furthermore, these classes are often reject by the scientific community now because of their association to scientific racism.

    Yes, I hate the whole acting and talking a certain colour thing. Like I refuse to accept that notion. And I think it goes even further than that linking to class. Why does speaking a certain way mean you're more or less educated? You can't help how you speak, but that has no linking necessarily to your education. I mean there was research done that suggested those with northern accents were employed less/ had a negative impact on their interviews. Why should an accent be that significant as to cause bias against you? I think that this stuff is really deep - like I want to learn more about it so that the next time someone says I talk white I can say - what do you mean talk white? Are you talking about my regional accent? because regardless of race if you are raised in a certain area you will acquire some accent and dialect features. Pretty sure white people in the brighton don't sound them same as white people in southampton, heck in france too. Furthermore, we all have idiolects which means we all speak differently regardless of race. like gaahhh
    "Inherently have these traits." My point exactly! This is why I like discussing, forming my opinions and sentencing better with people who challenge or agree with what I have to say. However with the Somalis they have blood type known as E-V68, apparently, that relates to West Asia, hence the family Afro Asiatic. This isn't my opinion, but it is credible academic evidence.

    Scientific racism, hmmm...

    You can help how you speak, but it would be a very excruciating process lol. Linguistics, dialect, idiolects and accent, one of my other favourite discussions! I mean it's not really even up for discussion if you privately apply common sense to the reason why people speak how they do. If I move to Spain...yea, I'll sound like Antonio Banderas. And so will a Korean for whatever reason they might move to Barthelona lol

    Well if someone said to me I speak white I would just say to them, "Do all white people speak this way? And you'd speak this way too if you cracked a book."
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    (Original post by missfats)
    Says to me I insult people and then insults

    lol.

    says to me I am angry but is angry herself "ugh, dismiss yourself and gtfo"

    bless you.
    Somalis are (homogeneous ) not mixed.
    stop kidding yourself.


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    How do you say "goodbye" in Somali?
    Anyone?

    ...

    A goodbye for this girl is long overdue, ugggh.
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    (Original post by Sweet n Sour)
    Anyway do you class Somalis as black or not? That is the discussion.
    I personally do.

    My somalian friends also identify as black. Race is a social construct, the classification is arbitrary at it's core so it really shouldn't be a big debate anyway.

    Do you class Somalis as black?
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    this Ethiopian girl seems to be obsessed with Somalis lol.

    black is a social construct.
    Stop getting angry at the other posters who are saying "end thread " because they have answered the title question "what is black".


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    (Original post by slade p)
    Yes because fully African negroids embraced non fully negroids as just black, it has caused many problems where some now don't want to except partly negroid people as black. It has caused a lot of confusion among 'blacks'. Some fully blacks also say lighter skinned/mixed blacks are treated better so they don't want to except them. Also what's it to you if fully blacks don't except you, you are mixed in reality so if shouldn't bother you. All in all negroids and partly negroid people have themselves to blame.
    Ok what is your basis for your 1st sentence...? An example...? And then look up an example of when they don't. I mean...*facepalm*
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    (Original post by missfats)
    this Ethiopian girl seems to be obsessed with Somalis lol.

    black is a social construct.
    Stop getting angry at the other posters who are saying "end thread " because they have answered the title question "what is black".


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    You didn't read the OP. This isn't just about Somalis; several people just have had to take a detour in the conversation to escort your behind to some facts.

    Back to the discussion, security, get this girl outta here.
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    (Original post by Truths)
    I personally do.

    My somalian friends also identify as black. Race is a social construct, the classification is arbitrary at it's core so it really shouldn't be a big debate anyway.

    Do you class Somalis as black?
    Yes, I do. Just a different type versus the Negroid type, for example. I don't feel subtle differences in skin tone or hair texture or culture can constitute someone as not being black.
 
 
 
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