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    (Original post by _icecream)
    Well that's already happening in Germany they have an ageing population so need migrants to fill jobs in manufacturing they offer on the job training in manufacturing - No wonder then people are risking their lives to get there. And It's a no brainer the more skilled people in a country the easier employers can get away with paying less
    You really think that the average Syrian refugee can replace an engineer in a BMW factory?

    The average Syrian doesn't speak German - a few words of English at best. He doesn't have a degree, and even if he has one, Syrian degrees are not worth the same as Western degrees.

    Saying that "refugees will replace German workers" is pure nonsense. They are inemployable.

    (Original post by _icecream)
    The Germans desperately need cheap labour
    No, they don't need cheap labour on their soil. Their cheap labour is found in Eastern Europe, where German companies have moved their lower skilled tasks. The tasks of conceiving, designing, marketing, engineering, and assembling the final product, have however stayed in Germany. None of these tasks requires low skills. Syrians won't find jobs there.

    (Original post by _icecream)
    they have the lowest birth rate in Europe that means more eldery people and who is going to look after them?
    Germany imports dozens of thousands of high-skilled engineers from Latin and Eastern Europe every year to work in their industry for that. They don't need Syrians.

    Unemployment (except in the former GDR) has almost vanished in Germany, resulting in a budget *surplus*, as the State doesn't have to give unemployment benefits and pay dozens of thousands of social security employees.

    However, they are going to spend spoil this surplus to accommodate their refugees, instead of investing it on their pensioners. :rolleyes: :facepalm:

    (Original post by _icecream)
    Of course it's the new immigrants. The new immigrants are eager to learn and they will work harder for little pay.
    That's an opinion, not a fact.
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    (Original post by _icecream)
    The new immigrants are eager to learn and they will work harder for little pay.
    It is rather more likely that a significant proportion of them think (as plenty in the Calais camps did, when interviewed on TV) that they will be given free housing and fed plentifully.
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    (Original post by _icecream)
    The Germans desperately need cheap labour, they have the lowest birth rate in Europe that means more eldery people and who is going to look after them? Of course it's the new immigrants. The new immigrants are eager to learn and they will work harder for little pay.
    That argument was looked at by the UK House of Lords select committee report on the economic impact of immigration. They found that 'pension bomb' argument didn't hold up.

    Also, evidence suggests that low skilled migrants from radically different cultures will impose a greater tax burden as they have high unemployment rates. That is the last thing the Germans need (unless they want to end up like Sweden).

    The figures refer to the number employed as the share of the 15-65 population for each immigrant group.


    Immigrants from Iraq:
    Sverige 29%.
    Danmark 22%
    Storbrittanien 42%
    Nya Zeeland 40%
    Australien 32%
    Kanada 52%
    USA 62%

    Immigrants from Afghanistan:
    Sverige 24%.
    Danmark 18%
    Storbrittanien 23%
    Nya Zeeland 23%
    Australien 34%
    Kanada 46%
    USA 54%
    Immigrants from Somalia:
    Sverige 24%.
    Danmark 16%
    Storbrittanien 15%
    Nya Zeeland 25%
    Australien 22%
    Kanada 36%
    USA 52%
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    BBC News: Migrant crisis: UN legal concerns over EU-Turkey plan

    The UN's refugee agency said any collective expulsion of foreigners was "not consistent with European law"

    Amnesty International called the plan a death blow to the right to seek asylum (nice melodramatic language)

    The EU believes the legal questions will be covered by declaring Turkey a "safe third country" for return (correct assessment)


    BBC News at Ten: "Europe now plans to push them, en mass, back across the Mediterranean .. it’s a violent change of course for Europe"

    Context: BBC Europe Editor Katya Adler is an internationalist polyglot reportedly from a German-Jewish background

    BBC Complaints: http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    BBC News: Migrant crisis: UN legal concerns over EU-Turkey plan

    The UN's refugee agency said any collective expulsion of foreigners was "not consistent with European law"

    Amnesty International called the plan a death blow to the right to seek asylum (nice melodramatic language)

    The EU believes the legal questions will be covered by declaring Turkey a "safe third country" for return (correct assessment)

    BBC News at Ten: "Europe now plans to push them, en mass, back across the Mediterranean .. it’s a violent change of course for Europe"

    Context: BBC Europe Editor Katya Adler is an internationalist polyglot reportedly from a German-Jewish background
    I maintain that it's an awful deal (and hardly the death blow) and stand with Cameron and the eastern Europeans in keeping this third world horde away.

    As for the UN i rate them as meaningless. A body which gives a voice to Russia and North Korea is not one in which i would obey.

    Glory to free movement of labour... for Europeans!
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    The UN's refugee agency said any collective expulsion of foreigners was "not consistent with European law"

    Amnesty International called the plan a death blow to the right to seek asylum (nice melodramatic language)
    It is time we changed our law. It has been overtaken by events. Asylum law was intended to protect small numbers of individuals fleeing persecution by their governments. It was not intended to stop mass migration, nor was it intended to prevent or mitigate whole peoples from harming themselves. It certainly wasn't intended as a bolt-hole from civil war.

    As things stand the so-called asylum-seekers seem to bring significant risk of harm to those aiding them, and put the receiving country at risk of being overwhelmed.

    Asylum for masses should go the way of sanctuary for individuals - out.

    Europe's bleeding heart will be the cause of its downfall.
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    BBC News at Ten: "Europe now plans to push them, en mass, back across the Mediterranean .. it’s a violent change of course for Europe"
    Should have happened from the very beginning.
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    I wont tolerate taking half the Middle East and the rest of the world just because they want a better life...

    WHAT ABOUT OUR PEOPLE? this is not good for us, it's destructive and we've already had to tolerate nothing but mass immigration that none of us wanted.

    Racism is justified. Racism is natural. Deal with it. Anti-racists are hypocrites since you are opposition to anyone who opposes this being done to us....
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    (Original post by ßenji)
    I wont tolerate taking half the Middle East and the rest of the world just because they want a better life...

    WHAT ABOUT OUR PEOPLE? this is not good for us, it's destructive and we've already had to tolerate nothing but mass immigration that none of us wanted.

    Racism is justified. Racism is natural. Deal with it. Anti-racists are hypocrites since you are opposition to anyone who opposes this being done to us....
    Racism is not justified. And your last sentence doesn't make sense. No sensible person is pro racism so the term 'Anti racist' in this sense is problematic. It is not like those of us that think illegal migrants/refugees should be turned back and that are against mass immigration are racists. It is just the most logical position to take for the well being of European people (and to some extent legal and genuine migrants/refugees)

    This is even more reason why European politicians have failed their people. People have started to think racism is justifiable.
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    (Original post by ßenji)
    I wont tolerate taking half the Middle East and the rest of the world just because they want a better life...

    WHAT ABOUT OUR PEOPLE? this is not good for us, it's destructive and we've already had to tolerate nothing but mass immigration that none of us wanted.

    Racism is justified. Racism is natural. Deal with it. Anti-racists are hypocrites since you are opposition to anyone who opposes this being done to us....
    Racism isn't justified at all. But if anyone with sense says that they would rather see benefits and housing go to the homeless in their country than some uneducated Middle Easterns, then apparently they're racist.
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    Did we ever find out how many of them were illegal migrants from places lile Somalia or Pakistan?
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    BBC News: Migrant crisis: UN legal concerns over EU-Turkey plan

    The UN's refugee agency said any collective expulsion of foreigners was "not consistent with European law"

    Amnesty International called the plan a death blow to the right to seek asylum (nice melodramatic language)

    The EU believes the legal questions will be covered by declaring Turkey a "safe third country" for return (correct assessment)


    BBC News at Ten: "Europe now plans to push them, en mass, back across the Mediterranean .. it’s a violent change of course for Europe"

    Context: BBC Europe Editor Katya Adler is an internationalist polyglot reportedly from a German-Jewish background

    BBC Complaints: http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/
    Obviously AlJazeera is anti-western and CNN wants to bring back the crusades too.
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    BBC News: Migrant crisis: Merkel condemns closure of Balkan route

    “Austria announcing it would limit the number of migrants crossing its border .. Slovenia said it would allow in only migrants who planned to seek asylum in the country, or those with clear humanitarian needs .. Serbia and Croatia quickly announced similar border restrictions .. Macedonia .. [shut] its border with Greece .. completely”

    "Merkel .. blamed European nations for "unilaterally" shutting the Balkan route" .. “closing the route .. would "not be sustainable or lasting"

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    Not that Ms. Merkel would know anything about blame for unilateral actions when it comes to the migrant crisis of course - not like she took it upon herself to invite half of the Muslim/developing world to come to Europe. Now all of a sudden she’s concerned with what’s “sustainable”?

    "She said this had put Greece in a "very difficult situation" and such decisions should be taken by the whole of the EU"

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    This, from the leader of the Country that has effectively done more than any other, in recent years, to put Greece in a "very difficult situation"!?

    ”It is the worst such crisis in Europe since World War Two”

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    Yet, according to Europhiles, and the STAY IN (at all costs) campaign, the EU has brought us nowt but peace, prosperity, and stability since WWII
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    BBC News: Migrant crisis: Merkel condemns closure of Balkan route

    “Austria announcing it would limit the number of migrants crossing its border .. Slovenia said it would allow in only migrants who planned to seek asylum in the country, or those with clear humanitarian needs .. Serbia and Croatia quickly announced similar border restrictions .. Macedonia .. [shut] its border with Greece .. completely”

    "Merkel .. blamed European nations for "unilaterally" shutting the Balkan route" .. “closing the route .. would "not be sustainable or lasting"
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    Not that Ms. Merkel would know anything about blame for unilateral actions when it comes to the migrant crisis of course - not like she took it upon herself to invite half of the Muslim/developing world to come to Europe. Now all of a sudden she’s concerned with what’s “sustainable”?
    "She said this had put Greece in a "very difficult situation" and such decisions should be taken by the whole of the EU"
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    This, from the leader of the Country that has effectively done more than any other, in recent years, to put Greece in a "very difficult situation"!?
    ”It is the worst such crisis in Europe since World War Two”
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    Yet, according to Europhiles, and the STAY IN (at all costs) campaign, the EU has brought us nowt but peace, prosperity, and stability since WWII
    Looks like she's realised she messed up big time and is now trying to shift blame to save her ass

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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    BBC News: Migrant crisis: Merkel condemns closure of Balkan route

    “Austria announcing it would limit the number of migrants crossing its border .. Slovenia said it would allow in only migrants who planned to seek asylum in the country, or those with clear humanitarian needs .. Serbia and Croatia quickly announced similar border restrictions .. Macedonia .. [shut] its border with Greece .. completely”

    "Merkel .. blamed European nations for "unilaterally" shutting the Balkan route" .. “closing the route .. would "not be sustainable or lasting"

    Spoiler:
    Show
    Not that Ms. Merkel would know anything about blame for unilateral actions when it comes to the migrant crisis of course - not like she took it upon herself to invite half of the Muslim/developing world to come to Europe. Now all of a sudden she’s concerned with what’s “sustainable”?

    "She said this had put Greece in a "very difficult situation" and such decisions should be taken by the whole of the EU"

    Spoiler:
    Show
    This, from the leader of the Country that has effectively done more than any other, in recent years, to put Greece in a "very difficult situation"!?

    ”It is the worst such crisis in Europe since World War Two”

    Spoiler:
    Show
    Yet, according to Europhiles, and the STAY IN (at all costs) campaign, the EU has brought us nowt but peace, prosperity, and stability since WWII
    Don't forget that "unilateral" is German for "contrary to German policy".
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    (Original post by ßenji)
    I wont tolerate taking half the Middle East and the rest of the world just because they want a better life...

    WHAT ABOUT OUR PEOPLE? this is not good for us, it's destructive and we've already had to tolerate nothing but mass immigration that none of us wanted.

    Racism is justified. Racism is natural. Deal with it. Anti-racists are hypocrites since you are opposition to anyone who opposes this being done to us....
    I know a song about that:

    Stand up and be counted; show the world that you're a man
    Stand up and be counted; go with the Ku Klux Klan
    We are sacred brotherhood; who love our country true
    We always can be counted on when there's a job to do
    We serve or homeland day and night to keep it always free
    And proudly where our robes of white protecting liberty

    Stand up and be counted; show the world that you're a man
    Stand up and be counted; go with the Ku Klux Klan
    Survival cause for vigilance, the symbols of our land.
    The sword and water, robe and hood, betrayed our noble plan.
    In search for peace and liberty, we pledge our hearts in hands.
    We must defeat the communists to save our Christian land.

    Stand up and be counted; show the world that you're a man
    Stand up and be counted; go with the Ku Klux Klan (x3)
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Why are these people risking their lives to come to our shores? Because they want a better life!
    Correct, economic migrants in the main

    What do we do?
    Announce a moratorium on Muslim and unskilled migration

    We can't let turkey bear all the burden
    That's why we're significantly aiding countries like Turkey, in shouldering the logistical burden, by accepting a considerable degree of the financial burden ourselves (biggest per capita aid contributor in the world c.£1,000,000,000 + massive EU injection to Turkey c.€6,000,000,000)

    it's not fair
    Life isn't fair, and 'all's fair in love and war' - it's a tragedy what's going on in Iraq and the Levant but they're lucky to have the support they get tbh, historically very few wartorn regions have received a fraction of the attention/support/attempts at mediation

    Like I've said before,we should have strict border patrols and those who don't have legitimate documents should be sent back
    Sent back to Syria? :lolwut:
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    BBC News: Migrant crisis: Hundreds cross from Greece into Macedonia

    "Macedonian police and soldiers then detained the migrants, putting them in army trucks". Apparently illegal entrants are also fined €500
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    BBC News: Migrant crisis: Hundreds cross from Greece into Macedonia

    "Macedonian police and soldiers then detained the migrants, putting them in army trucks". Apparently illegal entrants are also fined €500
    If only that much effort was put into stopping them from crossing the Med.
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    They wont be happen until there are no Whites left in Europe or the world. That is how their mind works.

    Always the oppressors never the victims aren't we? I have to wonder where do Europeans get this way of thinking into their heads? Marx?
 
 
 
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