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    (Original post by RoadtoSuccess)
    yea
    what did you think i were :O
    Atheist, or some Christian lol.
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    (Original post by Rhythmical)
    Atheist, or some Christian lol.
    oooo
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    (Original post by champ_mc99)
    I doubt they proclaim to be scholars.
    But to answer your question, you consider to be a (late? ) ex-Muslim?
    Well, "scholars" isn't a right word - as I'm yet to find a suitable definition for it.
    Maybe "experts" then

    What one considers is a bit different to what one is, wouldn't you say? Ahmadis considers themselves to Muslims :beard:
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    (Original post by Alexion)
    Any religious atheists out there?
    What do you mean by this?
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    I don't pray, and I recently stopped keeping halal, though I don't eat pork. I wouldn't say I've left anything, it's just my faith has just slowly, and I guess naturally, eroded away. I am probably going to fast during Ramadan, I always do.

    I have been curious about Sufi Islam. Does anyone know much about it? It seems quite zen.
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    What do you mean by this?
    It's the same contradiction as the thread title, just reversed...
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    (Original post by Alexion)
    It's the same contradiction as the thread title, just reversed...
    Hmm, not sure I agree. There are degrees of religiosity (since it's not a simple believe/don't believe binary and has all sorts of rules and rituals), but there aren't degrees of atheism in the contradictory way that you framed it, I don't think.

    (This is not to say that I don't recognise the strong/weak atheism distinction. )
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    Hmm, not sure I agree. There are degrees of religiosity (since it's not a simple believe/don't believe binary and has all sorts of rules and rituals), but there aren't degrees of atheism in the contradictory way that you framed it, I don't think.

    (This is not to say that I don't recognise the strong/weak atheism distinction. )
    I just don't think that it makes sense having a non-religious follower of a religion.

    Like it doesn't make sense having a religious atheist.

    Wouldn't 'non-religious' only really apply to atheists and agnostics? :dontknow:
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    (Original post by Alexion)
    I just don't think that it makes sense having a non-religious follower of a religion.

    Like it doesn't make sense having a religious atheist.
    Ah, yes. You're right. It's a semantical difference, but I see where you're coming from. 'Non-practising' would probably have been a better way of putting it.

    Wouldn't 'non-religious' only really apply to atheists and agnostics? :dontknow:
    It would, yes.
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    Ah, yes. You're right. It's a semantical difference, but I see where you're coming from. 'Non-practising' would probably have been a better way of putting it.

    It would, yes.
    If I'm honest, I did have a read of the thread and knew what the OP meant anyway

    Just felt like being difficult tbh :lol:
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    What do you mean by this?
    Bismil-Hitchens ar-rahmanir raheem.

    Well brother, you need to proclaim the Shahadah and recite the Kalimas.

    La illaha ill-Hitchens, Richard Dawkins Rasoolu-Hitchens

    Ash hadu an la ilaaha ill-Hitchens. wah dahu la shareeka lahu wa ash hadu anna Dawkins ab duhu wa rasoluhu.

    errr... that'll do.

    Only then you can become a True Religious Atheist™

    If there's ever a hell, I'm definitely going straight to the bottom of it...
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    (Original post by chemting)
    Bismil-Hitchens ar-rahmanir raheem.

    Well brother, you need to proclaim the Shahadah and recite the Kalimas.

    La illaha ill-Hitchens, Richard Dawkins Rasoolu-Hitchens

    Ash hadu an la ilaaha ill-Hitchens. wah dahu la shareeka lahu wa ash hadu anna Dawkins ab duhu wa rasoluhu.

    errr... that'll do.

    Only then you can become a True Religious Atheist™

    If there's ever a hell, I'm definitely going straight to the bottom of it...
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    This is :toofunny:. xD You certainly know a lot about Islam, if I do say so myself. :holmes: You even substituted 'Hitchens' for Allah in the correct places. :lol:

    My only objection is: why apologise to those who take offence? It's their duty to grow thicker skins or look away, not yours to moderate your satire. :fuhrer:
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    This is :toofunny:. xD You certainly know a lot about Islam, if I do say so myself. :holmes: You even substituted 'Hitchens' for Allah in the correct places. :lol:

    My only objection is: why apologise to those who take offence? It's their duty to grow thicker skins or look away, not yours to moderate your satire. :fuhrer:
    Lol the thing is, the offence intensifies to a whole new level if one satirises quranic verses - just look at Salman Rushdie...

    (and there are scholarly opinions and hadiths that suggests that I would be punishable by death for this. I hope he is as merciful as the 9 trillion times its been said in the quran)
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    (Original post by chemting)
    Lol the thing is, the offence intensifies to a whole new level if one satirises quranic verses - just look at Salman Rushdie...

    (and there are scholarly opinions and hadiths that suggests that I would be punishable by death for this. I hope he is as merciful as the 9 trillion times its been said in the quran)
    One hopes. :innocent: In any case, Rushdie was publishing under his own name; I doubt you're called chemting (though if you are, you're done for because nobody else is xD).
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    at times i feel like im moving away from islam..
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    (Original post by chemting)
    Well, "scholars" isn't a right word - as I'm yet to find a suitable definition for it.
    Maybe "experts" then

    What one considers is a bit different to what one is, wouldn't you say? Ahmadis considers themselves to Muslims :beard:
    I get what you mean. A lot of "Shiekh Googles" on the net. Lol you're a bit evasive on the question. I'm taking it as a yes
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    (Original post by mariam687)
    at times i feel like im moving away from islam..
    If you want anyone to talk to about it, feel free to PM x
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    (Original post by HAnwar)
    If you want anyone to talk to about it, feel free to PM x

    thanks man x
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    (Original post by mariam687)
    thanks man x
    No worries
 
 
 
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