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    (Original post by ivybridge)
    That's because we understand what it's like to be treated like total trash. Two wrongs don't make a right.

    If you look at the history of gay rights in the United Kingdom, you'll see that we gave relentless support to the miners during the Thatcher era and that ended up building our support to a level that meant the age of consent was equalised and we started to gain much more widespread support and respect. There are many muslims out there who do not condemn homosexuals - in fact my best friend is a muslim and he and is family have been my biggest support system ever. We should focus on how there is still a relatively large percentage of the muslim population offerring support and I think this will grow.
    also its very hard for the sample in newspaper surveys such as these to be totally representative of ALL british muslims
    remember the **** the sun got in for their survey claiming a quarter of british muslims sympathised with jihadis
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    (Original post by NickLCFC)
    I don't have a problem with people who are against/dislike homosexuality, but wanting to make it illegal because of that personal dislike is just wrong.
    I have a problem with people who are against/dislike it. And an even greater problem with those who think it should illegal.
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    This poll doesn't mean **** anyway. Homosexuality is never going to be made illegal in the UK. If they want it to be illegal, they can leave. I don't agree with homosexuality either because of religious views but I think people should be entitled to behave in the way they want to- this is Britain after all, not communist North Korea.
    So what's going to happen once the Muslim population in the UK outbreeds us and mass migrates and becomes the majority? They then use our democratic system to vote in an Islamic minded party and the game is over. I doubt this will happen this century however but your great grandchildren may be affected by it.
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    Guys being gay is perfectly fine in Islam. As long as you dont act on it or talk about it. + There are loads of cures like threatening to kill you unless you marry and live the life of a lie with the opposite sex. This is why we are renowned for our tolerance and being the religion of peace
    I can't tell if this post is supposed to be sarcastic or not. To deny one of something intrinsic like sexuality is dangerously similar to discriminating one based on their skin colour.

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    "More than half of British Muslims"
    I don't even remember taking part in this study. I don't remember any of the British muslims I know taking part in this study.

    So how many british Muslims actually are part of this study?
    It's a sample mate.


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    (Original post by Sephiroth)
    So what's going to happen once the Muslim population in the UK outbreeds us and mass migrates and becomes the majority? They then use our democratic system to vote in an Islamic minded party and the game is over. I doubt this will happen this century however but your great grandchildren may be affected by it.
    Yeah like that's going to happen when 96% of Britain isn't Muslim.
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    (Original post by alkaline.)
    LOL at the daily mail post "Muslims celebrate Eid Mubarak" tf you celebrate Eid, you don't "celebrate" a greeting lmao
    Wow. Eid isn't a greeting, its a Islamic Holiday after a month of fasting, Ramadan?
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    To be really fair, why are we getting facts from the Daily Mail and the Sun? Two of the most biased newspapers in this country, you can't read an article without noting the blatant objectivity towards white upper class right wingers.
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    (Original post by Sgmjb)
    also its very hard for the sample in newspaper surveys such as these to be totally representative of ALL british muslims
    remember the **** the sun got in for their survey claiming a quarter of british muslims sympathised with jihadis
    This. It's just scaremongering aimed to create hostility between different groups, and it is very irresponsible because it is exactly what Isis wants. As a British Muslim it is upsetting to read things like that article as I know that it is not true; I belong to a large Muslim community and we are born and raised in Britain and hold very progressive views. And traditional attitudes are changing, mosques place a strong emphasis on tolerance and diversity and how the Quran teaches 'to you your way and to me mine.' Even the prophet pbuh's uncle wasn't muslim, but he loved and cared for him.
    Although I know that people who believe these articles are few and far between and I shouldn't make generalisations as I would hate for people to generalise Muslims, sometimes I do question if society even accept me as British simply because I'm not white and I'm a Muslim. And that is why these articles are so dangerous, because they isolate young and easily influenced Muslims and make it easier for Isis to target them.


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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    Yeah like that's going to happen when 96% of Britain isn't Muslim.
    Official estimates based on government stats are for 2055, for a Muslim majority Britain, and this prediction was made with stats gathered BEFORE the 'migrant crisis' that has seen record numbers enter every subsequent year.

    A smart bet would be within the century,as you said, a fairly safe bet would be within our lifetime.

    Before then we will see, as we have seen all over Europe, Muslims targeting the gay community. Now that the Jews are fleeing Europe, whom do you think they will target next?

    I'm betting places that cater specifically, if not exclusively, for homosexuals.
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    (Original post by Sephiroth)
    So what's going to happen once the Muslim population in the UK outbreeds us and mass migrates and becomes the majority? They then use our democratic system to vote in an Islamic minded party and the game is over. I doubt this will happen this century however but your great grandchildren may be affected by it.
    It will happen this century. Just look at the demographic trends (specifically birth rates).
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    (Original post by S.olk)
    To be really fair, why are we getting facts from the Daily Mail and the Sun? Two of the most biased newspapers in this country, you can't read an article without noting the blatant objectivity towards white upper class right wingers.
    The other link was from the Sunday Times...
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    (Original post by HucktheForde)
    Not true

    Every gay muslim i met before are closet atheist and hates islam.
    They can't be atheist and Muslim.
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    (Original post by S.olk)
    To be really fair, why are we getting facts from the Daily Mail and the Sun? Two of the most biased newspapers in this country, you can't read an article without noting the blatant objectivity towards white upper class right wingers.
    The facts come from the ICM, they work for a number of organisations including the Guardian and the BBC. These stats were gathered for a channel 4 documentary that airs on Tuesday, I think.

    The DM has only published them, it had nothing to do with the Survey.

    If you had bothered to read the article instead of bashing the newspaper you would know this.
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    (Original post by hannah.m124)
    This. It's just scaremongering aimed to create hostility between different groups, and it is very irresponsible because it is exactly what Isis wants. As a British Muslim it is upsetting to read things like that article as I know that it is not true; I belong to a large Muslim community and we are born and raised in Britain and hold very progressive views. And traditional attitudes are changing, mosques place a strong emphasis on tolerance and diversity and how the Quran teaches 'to you your way and to me mine.' Even the prophet pbuh's uncle wasn't muslim, but he loved and cared for him.
    Although I know that people who believe these articles are few and far between and I shouldn't make generalisations as I would hate for people to generalise Muslims, sometimes I do question if society even accept me as British simply because I'm not white and I'm a Muslim. And that is why these articles are so dangerous, because they isolate young and easily influenced Muslims and make it easier for Isis to target them.Posted from TSR Mobile
    Could agree with this more!!! 100% true, stupid surveys like just alienate Muslims more and make them more susceptible and attracted to messages like the one Isis preaches.
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    Chill and eat some ass
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    (Original post by hannah.m124)
    This. It's just scaremongering aimed to create hostility between different groups, and it is very irresponsible because it is exactly what Isis wants. As a British Muslim it is upsetting to read things like that article as I know that it is not true; I belong to a large Muslim community and we are born and raised in Britain and hold very progressive views. And traditional attitudes are changing, mosques place a strong emphasis on tolerance and diversity and how the Quran teaches 'to you your way and to me mine.' Even the prophet pbuh's uncle wasn't muslim, but he loved and cared for him.
    Although I know that people who believe these articles are few and far between and I shouldn't make generalisations as I would hate for people to generalise Muslims, sometimes I do question if society even accept me as British simply because I'm not white and I'm a Muslim. And that is why these articles are so dangerous, because they isolate young and easily influenced Muslims and make it easier for Isis to target them.


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    Truly, Muslims are the real victims........... this is basically reads as a veiled threat, what you have typed, whether you are aware of it or not.

    We had better not print facts in our newspapers about what Muslims are openly saying or ISIS will come and get us, or Muslims will sign up for ISIS if we don't tread carefully.
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    (Original post by HanSoloLuck)
    Official estimates based on government stats are for 2055, for a Muslim majority Britain, and this prediction was made with stats gathered BEFORE the 'migrant crisis' that has seen record numbers enter every subsequent year.

    A smart bet would be within the century,as you said, a fairly safe bet would be within our lifetime.

    Before then we will see, as we have seen all over Europe, Muslims targeting the gay community. Now that the Jews are fleeing Europe, whom do you think they will target next?

    I'm betting places that cater specifically, if not exclusively, for homosexuals.
    It's really worrying and I can only see it ending in a bloody civil war or at worse another holocaust in Europe.
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    (Original post by TheIr0nDuke)
    And how many gay muslims do you think reside in the UK?

    I am talking about the vast majority of the gay movement, which does anything to fuse their perceived plight with that of ethnic minorities. Not even if that religion would rather see them killed.
    Don't equate ethnic minorities with Islam. Most actual minorities when relative to the world population are probably not muslim.
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    (Original post by HanSoloLuck)
    The facts come from the ICM, they work for a number of organisations including the Guardian and the BBC. These stats were gathered for a channel 4 documentary that airs on Tuesday, I think.

    The DM has only published them, it had nothing to do with the Survey.

    If you had bothered to read the article instead of bashing the newspaper you would know this.
    If you knew anything about the world of broadsheet newspapers abd the world of publication you would know that theses newspapers adapt this information all the time just to do the scaremongering that they want. so half of these facts may not even be the real thing but they may have been altered. And I can bash the newspaper if I want especially if it is a piece of a biased crap written in favour of a group of people in society-going against every ethic a newspaper should upload.
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    (Original post by HanSoloLuck)
    Truly, Muslims are the real victims........... this is basically reads as a veiled threat, what you have typed, whether you are aware of it or not.

    We had better not print facts in our newspapers about what Muslims are openly saying or ISIS will come and get us, or Muslims will sign up for ISIS if we don't tread carefully.
    You have totally misinterpreted what I said. I made no reference to Isis 'coming to get us' and I am not saying 'Muslims will sign up for Isis.' Nor am I trying to paint Muslims as the victims, I am simple stating my view and trying to show you why, as a young British Muslim, I am disheartened by such articles. I stand by my view that they create rifts between society at a time when we should be working together, but it is clear that we hold different views so let's just agree to disagree.


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