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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    FGM is banned for a reason.
    What is that reason?
    If it was done as a safe, medical procedure, just to remove the labia for "practical health reasons", would you support it as you do with MGM?

    Cleanliness? Low risk of catching STDs and doctors should warn parents if they find that it's likely to cause more harm than good to the little boy before the procedure is done
    There is no "cleanliness" issue if you wash regularly. That applies the same to many parts of the body.
    Being circumcised does not give a "low risk" of catching STDs. An American paper (criticised by the NHS) suggests a slightly lower risk.
    However, in reality, what will happen is that circumcised men will use this as an excuse for not using condoms, thus leading to an increased risk. Because if they are using condoms, any benefit is statistically negligible.

    The NHS and Medicaid refuse to carry out elective circumcision, so the health benefits are not meaningful - at least not in a system where the patient doesn't pay for everything through the nose!
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    (Original post by QE2)
    What is that reason?
    If it was done as a safe, medical procedure, just to remove the labia for "practical health reasons", would you support it as you do with MGM?

    There is no "cleanliness" issue if you wash regularly. That applies the same to many parts of the body.
    Being circumcised does not give a "low risk" of catching STDs. An American paper (criticised by the NHS) suggests a slightly lower risk.
    However, in reality, what will happen is that circumcised men will use this as an excuse for not using condoms, thus leading to an increased risk. Because if they are using condoms, any benefit is statistically negligible.
    I still wouldn't support it
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    (Original post by TheArtofProtest)
    Kindly note that it is far easier to engage in a discussion if your responses were paragraphed appropriately.

    Your argument that babies, toddlers and children should only decide or give consent to any and all activity, when they come of age, is inherently flawed.

    Where someone is unable to consent, the closest relatives are responsible for the welfare of the child, or adult. In the absence of any such relatives, the wardship passes to the state and I am disgusted by your attempts to further your agenda by wielding the great powers of the state to impose your opinions on how parents should raise their child/ren.
    Apologies.

    Not all activities... Just ones that involve cutting off part of a child's body.

    So you agree with all of the examples I gave then? Breast flattening? FGM?
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    Damn you, chemting! :mad: I came here to shout 'Alhamdulillah!'

    y u ninja me like this :emo:
    Hydeman getting constantly ninja'd :lol:
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    i got circumcised as a baby and despite being the least religious person ever im insanely grateful my parents did it because foreskins are gross and unhygienic :/
    pornstar **** ftw
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    (Original post by Axel Johann)
    Hydeman getting constantly ninja'd :lol:
    This is only the second time in the last few months. :grumble:
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    People like me blessed with a large penis will tell you that foreskin only hides the beauty.
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    This is only the second time in the last few months. :grumble:
    A worrying trend :eek:
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    (Original post by TheArtofProtest)
    If a child cannot consent, then a responsible adult is empowered to consent on his behalf. So, if a child was in an accident or had congenital difficulties which involved an amputation of some kind, then the doctor and the parents will decide after consultation.

    Saying only certain acts require consent, where the child does not have the capacity to consent, is drawing a line in the sand and completely arbitrary.

    What gives you the right to tell a parent how they should raise their child?
    While in some situations parents have the right to choose for the child having a foreskin is not "Life threatening" or even Dangerous. it is perfectly normal.
    So therefore a child should have the right to choose for himself when he is old enough.
    What gives you the right to tell a parent how they should raise their child?
    Would you allow a parent raising a child to commit FGM or allow a parent to decide that they wanted their kid to undergo a sex change without the child being old enough to understand?
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    (Original post by Youngmetro)
    People like me blessed with a large penis will tell you that foreskin only hides the beauty.
    So that means that parents have the right to permanently choose to mutilate a child's genitals?
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    No parent should be allowed to have someone go anywhere near their child with a knife if it's for 'cultural' reasons. That child is an individual, with rights, and shouldn't have their body permanently altered without consent because of a religious superstition. Want part of your junk cut off to express your religious faith? That's a decision to be made by oneself as an adult.
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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    So that means that parents have the right to permanently choose to mutilate a child's genitals?
    The word 'mutilate' suggests disfigurement and some sort of damage, which it isn't.

    A circumcised **** is more aesthetically pleasing.
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    I can't understand what people have against circumcision. It's one of those lovely things that have been passed down to us from ancient cultures. Our ancestors certainly knew what was best for us humans.
    Besides, it isn't dangerous (in general) so that means we should do it.
    I've been to many circumcisions in the past, and trust me there is nothing inhumane about it. There's usually some nice food. And babies sound so cute when they cry.
    This is an important part of being human.
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    (Original post by Youngmetro)
    The word 'mutilate' suggests disfigurement and some sort of damage, which it isn't.

    A circumcised **** is more aesthetically pleasing.
    Yes it does suggest Disfigurements as it does.

    A circumcised **** is more aesthetically pleasing
    This is your opinion, this is not fact, If a fully consenting person goes yeah I want to be circumcised go ahead your choice. but when a kid that cant choose is forced to have it happen that is wrong
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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    So that means that parents have the right to permanently choose to mutilate a child's genitals?
    Lmfao that's funny...

    I don't plan on doing it to my children because I don't follow the beliefs/culture behind it. But damn lets not get all dramatic now. I'm pretty sure many men survive perfectly and function just as well with a circumcised penis... Not saying it's right, but for those who've already had it done I doubt all of them are living terribly.
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    Quoting before it gets deleted by the Shariah brigade.

    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    It baffles me why religious people sometimes cannot grasp the simplest logic. If Allah hates foreskins so much then he would simply have created man without them.

    Also, for a god who claims to hate anything homosexual, he certainly seems to spend a lot of time thinking about not only how penises should look, but where they should be inserted...

    Now that society is more accepting hopefully Allah feels confident enough to come out of the closet :sadnod:
    Perhaps Allah is a girl. That would explain it. :perv:
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    (Original post by chemting)
    The post has been deleted, and I got a reminder.

    RIP: the pious have won again
    Allah (pbuh) is so strong that he can give you reminders when you criticise him (pbuh). You can't fight Allah (pbuh).

    (pbuh)
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    (Original post by Youngmetro)
    The word 'mutilate' suggests disfigurement and some sort of damage, which it isn't.

    A circumcised **** is more aesthetically pleasing.
    Yeah, I think we should do the same to girls, because vaginas are more aesthetically pleasing when the inner labia don't stick outside.
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    (Original post by Novascope)
    Lmfao that's funny...

    I don't plan on doing it to my children because I don't follow the beliefs/culture behind it. But damn lets not get all dramatic now. I'm pretty sure many men survive perfectly and function just as well with a circumcised penis... Not saying it's right, but for those who've already had it done I doubt all of them are living terribly.
    So true, my mate was raped once and he's fine. Doesn't mean I'm going to rape people. Respect.
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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    Yes it does suggest Disfigurements as it does.

    A circumcised **** is more aesthetically pleasing
    This is your opinion, this is not fact, If a fully consenting person goes yeah I want to be circumcised go ahead your choice. but when a kid that cant choose is forced to have it happen that is wrong
    lmaoo , most would agree a circumcised **** is better. Foreskin is something that we as humans dont need to function.

    If you want 'facts' then an uncircumcised **** is more dirty and unhygienic and on that grounds it is better, incidentally it is one reason why many do have it.
 
 
 
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