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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    You are so incredibly insecure OP. I'm not even bothering addressing most of your points as the logic behind them is BS to start with.

    Why is it that some STEM students on TSR are by FAR the ones with the greatest chip on their shoulders and severe superiority complexes? My god, there are CEOs with History degrees with greater earning potential than most STEM students will have in their lives.

    Learn to be more respectful and not boast about nonsense like this.


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    I dont hold an superiority complex, i as person am not superior to anyone with a non STEM background. I've simply pointed out why a STEM degree is better than one that is a non STEM degree. There are degrees within the STEM category that can be better in their own respect.
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    Yes, skills more logical than that of other non stem degrees. Your point?
    Ok, never mind. Apparently you can't even understand a simple sentence. So much for superiority. Lol.
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    Can you suggest criteria that is better?
    You're the one making the claim, the burden of proof is lies on you. Scentific method 101.
    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    And im talking about criteria that you can objectify to a fair extent
    Salary is measureable, the others are contentious at best - and you've still not shown why those things are objectively important.
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    (Original post by *Stefan*)
    Ok, never mind. Apparently you can't even understand a simple sentence. So much for superiority. Lol.
    Oh, the irony! Is this your go to sentence when you realise you're wrong?
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    (Original post by Comus)
    You're the one making the claim, the burden of proof is lies on you. Scentific method 101.
    You questioned the criteria hence the burden is on you to suggest something better.
    (Original post by Comus)
    Salary is measureable, the others are contentious at best - and you've still not shown why those things are objectively important.

    In terms of intelligence - You can look at grades.
    In terms of career prospects - You can look at employability + criteria for jobs

    Earlier i posted links, you are obliged to go back and check them out.
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    In terms of intelligence - You can look at grades.
    In terms of career prospects - You can look at employability + criteria for jobs

    Earlier i posted links, you are obliged to go back and check them out.
    Except the same finance firms you're appeasing are actually pushing towards hiring more humanities and nontraditional students than cookie cutter 'econ/maths' grads.

    Source:http://news.efinancialcareers.com/uk...mpaign=ARTICLE

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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    Oh, the irony! Is this your go to sentence when you realise you're wrong?
    Apparently you don't understand what 'you're wrong' means either, given I quoted your own post which directly contradicted what you said.

    Case dismissed.

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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Except the same finance firms you're appeasing are actually pushing towards hiring more humanities and nontraditional students than cookie cutter 'econ/maths' grads.

    Source:http://news.efinancialcareers.com/uk...mpaign=ARTICLE

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    Speaking generally, more STEM grads do get into high finance. You've looked at one recruiter when in general, most have finance/economics/STEM degrees. By an overwhelming margin.
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    (Original post by *Stefan*)
    Apparently you don't understand what 'you're wrong' means either, given I quoted your own post which directly contradicted what you said.

    Case dismissed.

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    Nope, i didnt contradicted myself. As already said, you misinterpreted what i said.

    QED.
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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Except the same finance firms you're appeasing are actually pushing towards hiring more humanities and nontraditional students than cookie cutter 'econ/maths' grads.

    Source:http://news.efinancialcareers.com/uk...mpaign=ARTICLE

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    This doesn't prove anything, this is just some anecdotal evidence.
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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Except the same finance firms you're appeasing are actually pushing towards hiring more humanities and nontraditional students than cookie cutter 'econ/maths' grads.

    Source:http://news.efinancialcareers.com/uk...mpaign=ARTICLE

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    That's a sample size of 1......it is not representative of the population at all.

    But then again, the evaluation is that I do think it's more to do with more STEM students shoving their applications in and more of them go through by virtue of numbers, not necessarily due to the recognition of their degree. However, It's hard to deny that Mathematics and Economics is more applicable than, say, Viking Studies, for a finance job.

    And the evaluation of this evaluation is the objective of firms change, they could be maximising profit (for which the Math/Econ grad will do the job), while your viking study grad will be able to be some good press material for 'breaking the stereotype' etc.
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    You questioned the criteria hence the burden is on you to suggest something better.
    No it isn't - the burden is on you either to provide a satisfactory justification or to amend your statement accordingly. If I questioned the existence of the dragon in Carl Sagan's garage, should the burden lie on me to prove that it doesn't exist?

    Now please tell me why your critieria are objectively important.

    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    In terms of intelligence - You can look at grades.
    Can you provide a comprehensive definition of intelligence? Why would grades be a satisfactory way of measuring this?
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    (Original post by lecafe88)
    That's a sample size of 1......it is not representative of the population at all.

    But then again, the evaluation is that I do think it's more to do with more STEM students shoving their applications in and more of them go through by virtue of numbers, not necessarily due to the recognition of their degree. However, It's hard to deny that Mathematics and Economics is more applicable than, say, Viking Studies, for a finance job.

    And the evaluation of this evaluation is the objective of firms change, they could be maximising profit (for which the Math/Econ grad will do the job), while your viking study grad will be able to be some good press material for 'breaking the stereotype' etc.
    It's a representative sample, and much the same attitude is seen at any comparable investment banks.

    Economics is hardly applicable lol.. Ask any banker whether what you learn in economics actually makes a difference on the job (besides obvious exceptions: fixed income desks) and the answer you'll get is no. Everyone heading into any of the major finance firms will be given firm wide training to introduce them into the ideas they need to do well on the job, the rest of the learning is by doing - not by comparing the affects of Keynesian vs Classical economics looool.

    Your response sounds like you're answering an exam. And as exams go, you're making some awfully inaccurate assumptions.

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    (Original post by Mr Moon Man)
    This doesn't prove anything, this is just some anecdotal evidence.
    Ok, let's dismiss hiring tactics of finance firms because 'anecdotal evidence'. OP is the all knowing sage with many years of wisdom that he can just impart such resounding claims such as 'finance firms favour x subject' with no proof to back it up.


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    (Original post by Comus)
    No it isn't - the burden is on you either to provide a satisfactory justification or to amend your statement accordingly. If I questioned the existence of the dragon in Carl Sagan's garage, should the burden lie on me to prove that it doesn't exist?

    Now please tell me why your critieria are objectively important.
    What? I used this criteria, to which you said why is this the only suitable criteria. If you have a problem with the criteria then you have to amend. I cannot see any other criteria that can be used to assess it. If you have problem with the criteria, the burden is solely on you to suggest otherwise. Why would i go against what i said?
    (Original post by Comus)
    Can you provide a comprehensive definition of intelligence? Why would grades be a satisfactory way of measuring this?
    Seriously? If you're going to meticulously question it then that isnt my problem.
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    Huh, it's been at least two days since the last STEM masterrace thread. It was nice while it lasted.
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    (Original post by STEMisSuperior.)
    Speaking generally, more STEM grads do get into high finance. You've looked at one recruiter when in general, most have finance/economics/STEM degrees. By an overwhelming margin.
    If I see the word 'generally' without substantiation again on a TSR thread I will actually explode.. Show me the money.

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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Ok, let's dismiss hiring tactics of finance firms because 'anecdotal evidence'. OP is the all knowing sage with many years of wisdom that he can just impart such resounding claims such as 'finance firms favour x subject' with no proof to back it up.


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    Says the 18 year old who's proclaimed himself to be 'That IB dude'

    I dont see why i need proof to back the fact that there are far more STEM grads in a job in high finance than non STEM grads. If you want proof for something so obvious google it.
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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Ok, let's dismiss hiring tactics of finance firms because 'anecdotal evidence'. OP is the all knowing sage with many years of wisdom that he can just impart such resounding claims such as 'finance firms favour x subject' with no proof to back it up.


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    OP is quite clearly insecure, but he's not exactly wrong.
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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    If I see the word 'generally' without substantiation again on a TSR thread I will actually explode.. Show me the money.

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    Irrelevant, no substantation or not, what i have said is true.
 
 
 
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