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    lol religious people
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    (Original post by aeroline1999)
    Honestly, I shouldn't be so surprised at all these statements. It is a forum on religion after all so of course it was going to be full of a bunch a uneducated religious fanatics who blatantly ignore all the proof given to them again and again and again. I mean, when people start quoting religious texts, I mean, f*** me! That's when you know your speaking to a nutter! All of you are just so fixated on your own uneducated judgements it is unbelievable.

    The proof is just so blatantly obvious!!!

    I mean I've said it before a million times, but ANTIBIOTIC RESISTANCE is 100% pure evidence for the process of evolution. 100% pure and simple. As is selective breeding. The fact someone thinks DNA is made of letters! HA! That has to be a troll. Like this whole forum must be. I don't believe any sane person thinks that. I refuse. I thought this was 2016, not 1500!
    I would like to know why you don't believe in God?
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I guess i'm not really that educated in Islam even though i did attend mosque etc. for a long time but that was because i was forced to go and i wasn't mature enough to understand what they told us. I feel like if we got educated NOW i'd probably understand it better. but yeah I don't have a boyfriend or get intimate with a guy though ... that's more of a personal than religious thing for me..
    you still have the chance to educate yourself know, God is forgiving you that is a fact. People convert themselves at 20-30years old. some even much older, you hvae the chance and your lucky you have quick resources like the internet to get your answer. i advise you to read a bit on Islam and why we pray and fast that way you understand more theres always the chance to learn more as you grow up. good luck and if you need anything pm me
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    (Original post by champ_mc99)
    Of course it isn't as theres no such thing as DNA. You're being condesending. I got an E which is a pass so there.
    lol fam, a C is pass....
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    (Original post by EllainKahlo)
    As I am not a Muslim, your 'we' has nothing to do with me. Therefore, your comment needn't be a reply to mine.
    You make no sense. I already clarified the 'we', is too hard to understand?
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    your preaching makes you sound arrogant and self-righteous and it's unlikely to make the OP see the light that you want him or her to see. Your only muslim because you were indoctrinated from birth, if you had been born in christian family you'd be saying Jesus is God right now so let's not descend into petty dawah tactics.
    What made you conclude that I was born muslim? And where is the arrogance?
    Your assumptions make you seem ignorant ,arrogant and self-righteous. I am giving him naseehah not dawah.

    Typical atheist with senseless indoctrinated argument.
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    (Original post by aeroline1999)
    It wasn't an essay, it was a quote from NHS: http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Healthyra...althrisks.aspx

    Furthermore, don't quote me the bible. And the Quraan was not written by god, nor was the Torah, the bible, the vedas, or any other religious text. They were all written by oppressive rulers who wished to consolidate their control over their subjects by transforming the ancient beliefs and religion pre-existing their rule into a form they could manipulate for their own self-benefit. Furthermore, Allah, god, the brahman or whatever else you want to call it does not, will not and never has existed. In fact, the universe suddenly becomes a much more beautiful place when you realise the beauty of nature and the series of metaphysical events that took place that culminated in our existence. Although culminated is the wrong word, since it suggests Earth and humanity is somehow special the "end point". We aren't and it isn't. We are tiny and insignificant compared to the vast outreaches of the universe.

    The idea of a god was simply a biological and evolutionary necessity to maintain social order during the period pre-civilisation. The concept that there were consequences for our actions allowed the human race to bind together and live in communities thus promoting our advancement and existence. It instilled a sense of fear should a person try to steal or kill another by providing punishment, determined by all-seeing all-knowing deity or deities. However, this has now served its evolutionary purpose and has allowed us to develop into a civilisation with the technology to defend ourselves against nature. Therefore it is no longer required and outdated and should therefore be disposed of as it now does more harm than good to the survival and prosperity of the human race.

    I invite you to join the fastest growing religion, no not islam, atheism. See what I did there? Anyway point is, religion is simply a solution to an old problem and a cause of a new one.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Ahh man, STILL your essay lacks knowledge! JUST STOP WITH REFERRING THE QURAN TO A MEDIEVAL TEXT

    Going in the order that I've highlighted...

    Were you unaware about the fact that Muslims wake up "in the middle of the night" in simpler terms, to have a heavy meal before fasting?

    The meal itself consists of nearly 600 calories... this means we have enough energy to function through the day.

    Secondly, the passage from the Quran holds facts which scientists are discovering TODAY.
    For example:

    [25.53] And He it is Who has made two seas to flow freely, the one sweet that subdues thirst by its sweetness, and the other salt that burns by its saltness; and between the two He has made a barrier and inviolable obstruction.

    Science has only recently discovered: Modern Science has discovered that in the places where two different seas meet, there is a barrier between them. This barrier divides the two seas so that each sea has its own temperature, salinity, and density.[Principles of Oceanography - Davis, pp. 92-93]
    Many many points to go with the second one.

    Third highlight, outdated ideology?
    ISLAM is one of the fastest growing religions in the world, yet you somehow find an excuse to call it outdated? EVEN when scientists are discovering facts which have were revealed 1800 years ago?

    Listen buddy, argue all you want. To you be your belief, and to me be mine.
    The Quran contains absolutely nothing that is being discovered today. muslims say that all the time but fail to provide any proof for it. stop with your preaching because it ain't working. islam isn't true and those of us who weren't brainwashed don't feel the need to cling on to the notion
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    i've always been told you can't you can use that miswak thing though...
    it seems as if you've been taught a more cultural version of islam, rather than true islam. Eg. one of my friends dad said it was haram to chew gum etc which is obviously not islam. Maybe if you research it again and see?
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    You cannot simply say you were evolved from a monkey specie!

    First off, there is no scientific evidence that a species can change the number of chromosomes within the DNA. The chromosome count within each species is fixed. This is the reason a male from one species cannot mate successfully with a female of another species. Man could not evolve from a monkey. Each species is locked into its chromosome count that cannot change. If an animal developed an extra chromosome or lost a chromosome because of some deformity, it could not successfully mate. The defect could not be passed along to the next generation. Evolving a new species is scientifically impossible.

    Yes I believe children iherit their characteristics of their parents, because this is what RELIGION has also taught.
    Quran:
    The first verse of this chapter is the 46th verse form the beginning of the Holy Quran that contains the word "Human being"
    Number 46 is equal to human chromosome number. As stated in the line, "Indeed, We created man from a sperm-drop mixture that We may try him; and We made him hearing and seeing."

    Computers, Global warming are both man causes/ man made!

    JUST LIKE ATHEISM
    How were we created fully?
    Who was the first person on earth?
    So this table in front of me, how am I so sure it didn't come with the big bang?
    Or do I believe it's man made??
    We didn't evolve from monelts. stop being ignorant and accusing others of getting things wrong when you don't even know the basics of evolution yourself. we share a common ancestor with monkeys and apes and there are mountains of evidence to prove this it is fact weather you like it or not
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    (Original post by Kraixo)
    What made you conclude that I was born muslim? And where is the arrogance?
    Your assumptions make you seem ignorant ,arrogant and self-righteous. I am giving him naseehah not dawah.

    Typical atheist with senseless indoctrinated argument.
    you clearly were born a muslim otherwise you would have denied it in this post and you haven't lol.

    And lmao, you them become a hypocrite and say I'm an atheist when that's just an assumption on your part !
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    Secretley eating from your parents? Yeh you can do that. But how can you secretley eat from Allah? Ramadan is the month were the devil is locked up, its the month for change. Its the month for a new beggining. We as people have forgotten our purpose on this earth. Allah created us to worship him, and he has given us free will to test us and to see if we are still obidient to our creator. There is an imense reward for the beliver. Just imagine jannah and how beautiful it would be. Why would you waste that because you cant be bothered fasting. if omeone offered you one million pounds to do 50 pushups would you be bothered then. im not tryna say that im the best muslim but im tryna remind you because on the day of judgement Allah will ask me why I saw this post and didnt attempt to guide you.
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    Praise be to Allaah.
    Ramadaan is one of the twelve Arabic months. It is a month which is venerated in the Islamic religion, and it is distinguished from the other months by a number of characteristics and virtues, including the following:

    1 – Allaah has made fasting this month the fourth pillar of Islam, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “The month of Ramadan in which was revealed the Qur’aan, a guidance for mankind and clear proofs for the guidance and the criterion (between right and wrong). So whoever of you sights (the crescent on the first night of) the month (of Ramadan i.e. is present at his home), he must observe Sawm (fasts) that month…”

    [al-Baqarah 2:185]

    and it was narrated in al-Saheehayn (al-Bukhaari, 8; Muslim, 16) from the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Umar that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Islam is built on five (pillars): the testimony that there is no god except Allaah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allaah; establishing prayer; paying zakaah; fasting Ramadaan; and Hajj to the House (the Ka’bah).”

    2 – Allaah revealed the Qur’aan in this month, as He says in the verse quoted above (interpretation of the meaning):

    “The month of Ramadan in which was revealed the Qur’aan, a guidance for mankind and clear proofs for the guidance and the criterion (between right and wrong)…”

    [al-Baqarah 2:185]

    And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “Verily, We have sent it (this Qur’aan) down in the Night of Al-Qadr (Decree).”

    [al-Qadr 97:1]

    3 – Allaah has made Laylat al-Qadr in this month, which is better than a thousand months, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “Verily, We have sent it (this Qur’aan) down in the Night of Al-Qadr (Decree).

    And what will make you know what the Night of Al-Qadr (Decree) is?

    The Night of Al-Qadr (Decree) is better than a thousand months (i.e. worshipping Allaah in that night is better than worshipping Him a thousand months, i.e. 83 years and 4 months).

    Therein descend the angels and the Rooh [Jibreel (Gabriel)] by Allaah’s Permission with all Decrees,

    (All that night), there is peace (and goodness from Allaah to His believing slaves) until the appearance of dawn”

    [al-Qadar 97:1-5]

    “We sent it (this Qur’aan) down on a blessed night [(i.e. the Night of Al-Qadr) in the month of Ramadan — the 9th month of the Islamic calendar]. Verily, We are ever warning [mankind that Our Torment will reach those who disbelieve in Our Oneness of Lordship and in Our Oneness of worship]”

    [al-Dukhaan 44:3]

    Allaah has blessed Ramadaan with Laylat al-Qadr. Explaining the great status of this blessed night, Soorat al-Qadr was revealed, and there are many ahaadeeth which also speak of that, such as the hadeeth of Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There has come to you Ramadaan, a blessed month which Allaah has enjoined you to fast, during which the gates of heaven are opened and the gates of Hell are closed, and the rebellious devils are chained up. In it there is a night which is better than a thousand months, and whoever is deprived of its goodness is indeed deprived.”

    Narrated by al-Nasaa’i, 2106; Ahmad, 8769. classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Targheeb, 999.

    And Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever spends Laylat al-Qadr in prayer out of faith and in the hope of reward, will be forgiven his previous sins.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1910; Muslim, 760.

    4 – Allaah has made fasting Ramadaan and spending its nights in prayer out of faith and in the hope of reward a means of forgiveness of sins, as was proven in al-Saheehayn (al-Bukhaari, 2014; Muslim, 760) from the hadeeth of Abu Hurayrah according to which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever fasts Ramadaan out of faith and in the hope of reward, his previous sins will be forgiven.” And al-Bukhaari (2008) and Muslim (174) also narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever spends the nights of Ramadaan in prayer out of faith and in the hope of reward, his previous sins will be forgiven.”

    The Muslims are unanimously agreed that it is Sunnah to pray qiyaam at night in Ramadaan. Al-Nawawi said that what is meant by praying qiyaam in Ramadaan is to pray Taraweeh, i.e., one achieves what is meant by qiyaam by praying Taraaweeh.

    5 – In this month, Allaah opens the gates of Paradise and closes the gates of Hell, and chains up the devils, as is stated in al-Saheehayn (al-Bukhaari, 1898; Muslim, 1079), from the hadeeth of Abu Hurayrah who said that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When Ramadaan comes, the gates of Paradise are opened and the gates of Hell are closed, and the devils are chained up.”

    6 – Every night Allaah has people whom He redeems from the Fire. Imam Ahmad (5/256) narrated from the hadeeth of Abu Umaamah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “At every breaking of the fast, Allaah has people whom He redeems.” Al-Mundhiri said: there is nothing wrong with its isnaad; and it was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Targheeb, 987.

    Al-Bazzaar (Kashf 962) narrated that Abu Sa’eed said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has people whom He redeems every day and night – i.e., in Ramadaan – and every Muslim every day and night has a prayer that is answered.”

    7 – Fasting Ramadaan is a means of expiation for the sins committed since the previous Ramadaan, so long as one avoids major sins. It was proven in Saheeh Muslim (233) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The five daily prayers, from one Jumu’ah to the next and from one Ramadaan to the next are expiation for (sins committed) in between, so long as you avoid major sins.”

    8 – Fasting in Ramadaan is equivalent to fasting ten months, as is indicated by the hadeeth in Saheeh Muslim (1164) narrated from Abu Ayyoob al-Ansaari: “Whoever fasts Ramadaan then follows it with six days of Shawwaal, it will be like fasting for a lifetime.” Ahmad (21906) narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever fasts Ramadaan, a month is like ten months, and fasting six days after al-Fitr will complete the year.”

    9 – Whoever prays qiyaam in Ramadaan with the imam until he finishes, it will be recorded for him that he spent the whole night in prayer, because of the report narrated by Abu Dawood (1370) and others from the hadeeth of Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever prays qiyaam with the imam until he finishes, it will be recorded for him that he spent the whole night in prayer.” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Salaat al-Taraaweeh, p. 15

    10 – ‘Umrah in Ramadaan is equivalent to Hajj. Al-Bukhaari (1782) and Muslim (1256) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to a woman among the Ansaar, “What kept you from doing Hajj with us?” She said, “We only had two camels that we used for bringing water.” So her husband and son had gone for Hajj on one camel, and he left the other for them to use for bringing water.” He said, “When Ramadaan comes, go for ‘Umrah, for ‘Umrah in Ramadaan is equivalent to Hajj.” According to a report narrated by Muslim, “… is equivalent to doing Hajj with me.”

    11 – It is Sunnah to observe i’tikaaf (retreat for the purpose of worship) in Ramadaan, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) always did that, as it was narrated in the hadeeth of ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to spend the last ten days of Ramadaan in i’tikaaf until he passed away, then his wives observed i’tikaaf after him.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1922; Muslim, 1172.

    12 – It is mustahabb in the sense of being strongly recommended in Ramadaan to study the Qur’aan together and to read it a great deal. You may study the Qur’aan together by reciting it to someone else and by having someone else recite it to you. The evidence that this is mustahabb is the fact that Jibreel used to meet the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) every night in Ramadaan and study the Qur’aan with him. Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 6; Muslim, 2308.

    Reading Qur’aaan is mustahabb in general, but more so in Ramadaan.

    13 – It is mustahabb in Ramadaan to offer iftaar to those who are fasting, because of the hadeeth of Zayd ibn Khaalid al-Juhani (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever gives iftaar to one who is fasting will have a reward like his, without that detracting from the fasting person’s reward in the slightest.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 807; Ibn Maajah, 1746; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi, 647. see question no: ( 12598 )

    And Allaah knows best
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    Yes of course I will!

    Edit: Insha Allah!
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
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    No it's true and God will understand
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    http://www.sultan.org/fasting.html
    Read this website it tells you everything about fasting. It tells you the ruling of fasting, the vertues of fasting, and so on.

    http://www.sultan.org/fasting.html
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    My mum is Muslim and she expects me to fast but i dont believe in it and i already have a diet in place. I didn't fast last year but that's because me and my dad secretly ate without her knowing, i want to tell her the truth this year but i dont know how to.
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    Dear brother/sister ramadhan is a very important part of islam it is one of the 5 pillars of islam. It is a right on allah to fast. Read this web site it tells you everything you need to know about ramadhan in depth. Inn shaa allah you will benefit. May allah guide us all.

    http://www.sultan.org/fasting.html
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    you clearly were born a muslim otherwise you would have denied it in this post and you haven't lol.

    And lmao, you them become a hypocrite and say I'm an atheist when that's just an assumption on your part !

    Your answer doesn't make any sense.
    I never denied that I wasn't born a muslim, don't know why you are getting jolly like you caught me out. I asked you a simple question how you can come to the conclusions that I am born a muslim and have been brainwashed, let me make it simple for you as you seem to be struggling comprehending a basic question, how do you account for the millions of Muslims who are converts?


    Your wording and low intellect made you look like an atheist.
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    (Original post by Kraixo)
    You make no sense. I already clarified the 'we', is too hard to understand?
    You pressed reply to me, you are the one evidently who is clueless. We wouldn't be having this conversation if it weren't for your initial decision.
 
 
 
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