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    (Original post by Applepiex3)
    The human evolution is controversial. If that is the case then why didn't all the primates evolve into Humans?

    If the split occurred 6 million years ago, surely that was enough time for those other primates to evolve into Homo sapiens.

    With advancement of research for last couple of centuries, there must have at least been some account of slight variations within our genes to classify us as different species. However, there isn't.

    Evolution takes millions of years yet no Human has lived millions of years to see that happen. Therefore Evolution is just a theory.
    Why didn't primates evolve into humans? Different habitats and sheer chance. There's no 'final form' for evolution, there's no set path.

    Evolution is just a theory, but it's a theory with far more evidence than intelligent design.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    Why didn't primates evolve into humans? Different habitats and sheer chance. There's no 'final form' for evolution, there's no set path.

    Evolution is just a theory, but it's a theory with far more evidence than intelligent design.
    Chance and habitat? A mere climate change cannot be responsible for creating Humans. All that would result in would be different species; different species of primates.

    I can accept some aspects of Evolution with the mutation and survival of the fittest gradually over time, I also accept species evolving to fit their habitat. However, I can't accept us evolving from chimpanzees.

    The new Homo Sapiens are far more intelligent species and there is no evidence to suggest intelligence comes from mutations.
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    (Original post by Applepiex3)
    Chance and habitat? A mere climate change cannot be responsible for creating Humans. All that would result in would be different species; different species of primates.

    I can accept some aspects of Evolution with the mutation and survival of the fittest gradually over time, I also accept species evolving to fit their habitat. However, I can't accept us evolving from chimpanzees.

    The new Homo Sapiens are far more intelligent species and there is no evidence to suggest intelligence comes from mutations.
    Are you being intentionally obtuse? We didn't evolve from chimps. We evolved from a common ancestor.

    Of course there is! Do you think our brains were this size when we were marine creatures? Of course not. We've sacrificed strength and speed for brains and opposable thumbs. In fact, it's probably the latter that made us the dominant species as we could use tools.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    Are you being intentionally obtuse? We didn't evolve from chimps. We evolved from a common ancestor.

    Of course there is! Do you think our brains were this size when we were marine creatures? Of course not. We've sacrificed strength and speed for brains and opposable thumbs. In fact, it's probably the latter that made us the dominant species as we could use tools.
    We evolved from Pliopithecus, similar to the modern spider monkey.

    You cannot gain intelligence from a mutation and there is little evidence for it being genetic. Meaning there was no way for us to be passed on knowledge apart from learning. The ability to learn is found in all species even the primates we see today however they show no sign of being able to evolve into Homo Sapiens.
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    (Original post by Applepiex3)
    We evolved from Pliopithecus, similar to the modern spider monkey.

    You cannot gain intelligence from a mutation and there is little evidence for it being genetic. Meaning there was no way for us to be passed on knowledge apart from learning. The ability to learn is found in all species even the primates we see today however they show no sign of being able to evolve into Homo Sapiens.
    You can gain the capacity for intelligence from mutations. Look at a cat and then at us, consider brain size, and consider which species is more intelligent.

    Primates won't evolve into us, because they're in different conditions to us. Also, no sign of being able to evolve? You have to be in the wild for evolution to work, and again you seem to forget the sheer time scale it takes.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    You can gain the capacity for intelligence from mutations. Look at a cat and then at us, consider brain size, and consider which species is more intelligent.

    Primates won't evolve into us, because they're in different conditions to us. Also, no sign of being able to evolve? You have to be in the wild for evolution to work, and again you seem to forget the sheer time scale it takes.
    It's tempting to link brain size with intelligence, concluded from the theory of Evolution. Anthropologists use the interior volume of a skull and compare it with the body size, known as encephalization quotients.

    In reality we have no way to measure intelligence because what does intelligence even define? A cat being able to map the city of London and know every road or a Human's ability to revise from a textbook.

    Just because we share homologous DNA doesn't mean we are the same because everything on earth shares similar DNA. Last time I checked, my uncle wasn't a tree. Why can't we take in the possibility that there were several entities which were able to evolve into different species. Rather than all animals from one ancestor. Even so, where did that one ancestor come from? The sea? Where did the sea come from? The hydrogen molecules condensing with the oxygen molecules? How did that happen? The high temperature and pressure? Where did that come from? The earth? How did the earth form? Cloud of dust and gas? Where did that come from? Space? How did this vacuum form? Happened by chance? Happened by chance, I see.

    You're not understanding me here. The whole point of me asking you to create an artificial human being without any human host/ genetic engineering or cloning is because it can't be done. Evolution is still a theory and yet to be proven.
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    (Original post by Applepiex3)

    You're not understanding me here. The whole point of me asking you to create an artificial human being without any human host/ genetic engineering or cloning is because it can't be done. Evolution is still a theory and yet to be proven.
    Define artificial. If you want me to create an 'artificial' human being, we can create incredibly lifelike androids now, with AIs approaching lifelike levels.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    Define artificial. If you want me to create an 'artificial' human being, we can create incredibly lifelike androids now, with AIs approaching lifelike levels.
    Not using computers and robots since that is using artificial intelligence.

    What I was asking for was a close replica to model evolution. An artificial human being would be the final product.Thus proving Evolution however no one has really been able to do that (even with the technology we have today) making evolution a mere theory.
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    (Original post by Applepiex3)
    Not using computers and robots since that is using artificial intelligence.

    What I was asking for was a close replica to model evolution. An artificial human being would be the final product.Thus proving Evolution however no one has really been able to do that (even with the technology we have today) making evolution a mere theory.
    We don't have the time to carry out such an experiment, seeing as each trial would take millions of years.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    We don't have the time to carry out such an experiment, seeing as each trial would take millions of years.
    If we were to place the molecules in a vacuum and somehow speed up the process of "time" then it would show results of how those molecules do not suddenly turn into animals in an empty space since that was the atmosphere earth was in back then.
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    (Original post by Applepiex3)
    If we were to place the molecules in a vacuum and somehow speed up the process of "time" then it would show results of how those molecules do not suddenly turn into animals in an empty space since that was the atmosphere earth was in back then.
    Life's beginning - as in how particles became cells, and so on - is debated. One of the major theories is volcanic lightning interacting with naturally occurring amino acids.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    Life's beginning - as in how particles became cells, and so on - is debated. One of the major theories is volcanic lightning interacting with naturally occurring amino acids.
    Yet those amino acids are still found in our natural environment to this day; I don't see that algae evolving into a fish or even genetically being close to a fish.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    That's how it happened, over a very long period of time. Do you understand how evolution works? There's no intelligent design, it's essentially random mutations, some of which enable the species to survive, and over time the whole species has that trait as those which don't die out.
    That's what you think!
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    (Original post by john2054)
    That's what you think!
    That's the current most subscribed-to scientific theory.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    That's the current most subscribed-to scientific theory.
    only amongst some subcultures/ habitus
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    (Original post by Applepiex3)
    Yet those amino acids are still found in our natural environment to this day; I don't see that algae evolving into a fish or even genetically being close to a fish.
    evolution is a mere theory, the lord jesus created everything just like that, perfect before Adam was fallen. then god put a curse on everything he created because of the sin. and everything was changed but the lord will restore everything?
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    (Original post by Ordo)
    Just wondering if you are Christian but what group are you in like catholic, protestant or orthodox? Thanks
    iam from the virgin wise house a free chritian church online
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    (Original post by XOR_)
    Give it a rest.
    can one escape who does these things, can he break the treaty and yet escape? it is the oath of the lord he despised, surely he shall not escape. that by keeping his covenant you might stand.
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    (Original post by keepyy)
    can one escape who does these things, can he break the treaty and yet escape? it is the oath of the lord he despised, surely he shall not escape. that by keeping his covenant you might stand.
    Just.. give it rest.
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    (Original post by 123teddy)
    jesus is god
    this proverb shall no more be used, the parents ate the sour grapes and the teeth of the children are set on edge. instead as surely as iam the living god, says the sovereign lord, the one who sins is the one who will die. it is for your own sins that you will die. your son is just and he shall surely live. such a man carefully keeps my laws, who lives by my rules, who does not lift up his soul to idols, the good man who is single does not have sex,
 
 
 
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