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    (Original post by saladays)
    As someone who's had an experience with an offending pedophile I try to be as open-minded as possible with non-offending pedophiles. If they don't pursue child pornography etc they should be helped with therapy to make sure they don't become offenders, rather then shun them from society which would probably do more harm than good.
    Would you mind describing your experience?
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    (Original post by I am Kira)
    Would you mind describing your experience?
    Ah, sorry, I would mind.
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    (Original post by saladays)
    Ah, sorry, I would mind.
    Oh I'm sorry and I'm sorry that you even had an experience
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    (Original post by I am Kira)
    Here I'm talking about paedophiles not child molesters, two different groups often put together by people.
    Noone controls their sexuality, straight people don't choose to be attracted to the opposite gender, gays don't choose to be attracted to the same sex and of course paedophiles don't choose to be attraacted to children.
    Loads of people assume that all paedophiles are child molester and all child molesters are paedophiles. While there are no statistics on this, not all paedophiles actually commit crimes on children. Also some child molesters aren't actually attracted to children.
    Fear mongering and forming a mob mentality on a group of people who don't control their desires does not help anyone in anyway. Loadfs of research shows that a person is more likeloy to commit a crime when they are stressed.

    Rather than directing so much hate on these people we should be openly trying to help them. We should have pschologists and doctors arranging mentoring and therapy for these people without fear of prosecution. If we really are part of a society we should be helping the people who fall not throw them to the ground.
    Well of course you are completely correct they have a mental disorder.

    One type carries out acts against children the other ones don't.

    These people shouldn't go to prison but mental institutions where they are locked away and treated anonymously so not to create a network of peadophiles and if they have committed a crime once they are done in therapy go to prison to carry out the rest of their sentence


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    (Original post by MeYou2Night)
    Pedophiles should be publically executed. I don't care, they are subhuman scum.

    Can't believe the amount of people defending them on here lately. It's disgusting.

    And yes, OP I have read your posts before you say I haven't.
    PLEASE provide some research/studies which show that treating them will not reduce the attacks on children? It seems you would much rather agree with this ridiculous stigma blindly rather than have any sort of logical discussion.
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    Anyways for some reason a pretty objective evaluation on this with lots of studies was declined by moderators? Its as if trying to find ways to reduce child molestation and not blindly labeling people is automatically rejected. It is not right to have sexual thoughts on children but evidence and medical studies show its not entirely their fault as its a paraphillic disorder which may be treated with cognitive therapy and serotonin inhibition etc. Inb4 I get labelled a closet paedo because I wish to discuss a controversial topic with studies rather than ridiculous attacks.
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    (Original post by ItsJustBanter)
    PLEASE provide some research/studies which show that treating them will not reduce the attacks on children? It seems you would much rather agree with this ridiculous stigma blindly rather than have any sort of logical discussion.
    What is it with this site at the moment? It's full of pedophile defenders.

    I don't care, they don't deserve treatment or help. They are scum.
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    (Original post by MeYou2Night)
    What is it with this site at the moment? It's full of pedophile defenders.

    I don't care, they don't deserve treatment or help. They are scum.
    Again, you're thinking pedophiles are synonymous with child molesters when in many instances child molesters just want a sexual outlet and use children as easy targets, refer to previous posts for evidence.
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    (Original post by ItsJustBanter)
    Again, you're thinking pedophiles are synonymous with child molesters when in many instances child molesters just want a sexual outlet and use children as easy targets, refer to previous posts for evidence.
    You're missing my point, that I don't care and have zero sympathy for them and they should be purged from society .
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    (Original post by MeYou2Night)
    You're missing my point, that I don't care and have zero sympathy for them and they should be purged from society .
    That's not a point, it's an admission that you don't have a reasoned point.

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    (Original post by MeYou2Night)
    You're missing my point, that I don't care and have zero sympathy for them and they should be purged from society .
    For doing nothing wrong and for having a wrong strange paraphilia they are born with? Even if you don't care you should still acknowledge that treating the non abusers would reduce child molestation, unless you don't even care about that because of your narrow minded views?
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    (Original post by ItsJustBanter)
    For doing nothing wrong and for having a wrong strange paraphilia they are born with? Even if you don't care you should still acknowledge that treating the non abusers would reduce child molestation, unless you don't even care about that because of your narrow minded views?
    Lol u dont get enough rep mate
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    The decline and the unavailability of modern western women and their increased masculinisation has sent many 'on the fence paedophiles' over the edge.
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    (Original post by I am Kira)
    Oh really and what evidence do you have on that?
    http://mentorforensics.com/wp-conten...M-HANDOUTS.pdf
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    Sorry - but allowing pedophiles to masturbate or enjoy their fantasies will not help at all, it will hinder.

    Willing to provide research if necessary.
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    (Original post by lawyer3c)
    Hey, I have a few questions if you don't mind.

    1. A lot of people say it's not a 'sexuality' and liken it to a 'fetish', TWE do you subscribe to this and what are the implications of this difference (in terms of policy objectives etc)?
    2. What does the evidence say about those that seek treatment - how often is it successful, and what are the best ways to end the stigma to encourage more of these people to seek help?
    3. What does the evidence say about the effectiveness of virtual child porn as a treatment method?
    4. What are the biggest misconceptions about paedophiles that aren't borne out in the research?

    Thanks.
    None. I couldn't find anything. Psychological theories suggest masturbation and fantasy as reasons why the behaviour occurs so it seems inappropriate to think it would help.
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    just torture them to death and rid the world of their disgusting perverse infliction
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    this is a topic ive brought up before with many people, as soon as i suggested that maybe peodophiles cant actually help it they look at me in a disgusted way and say I'm victim blaming. I'm not, everyone has thoughts, I sometimes think how nice it would be the kill some *******s in my life but that doesnt mean i would actually go out and do it? as far as i knew thoughts weren't a crime?
    but then again people suggesting psychological intervention, many gay people/asexual etc say their sexuality isnt a mental disorder, theres been a lot of debate about this. Problem is if you dont believe you can 'fix' a gay person or stop them having gay sex then how would you 'fix' a peodophile?
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    (Original post by I am Kira)
    Here I'm talking about paedophiles not child molesters, two different groups often put together by people.
    Noone controls their sexuality, straight people don't choose to be attracted to the opposite gender, gays don't choose to be attracted to the same sex and of course paedophiles don't choose to be attraacted to children.
    Loads of people assume that all paedophiles are child molester and all child molesters are paedophiles. While there are no statistics on this, not all paedophiles actually commit crimes on children. Also some child molesters aren't actually attracted to children.
    Fear mongering and forming a mob mentality on a group of people who don't control their desires does not help anyone in anyway. Loadfs of research shows that a person is more likeloy to commit a crime when they are stressed.

    Rather than directing so much hate on these people we should be openly trying to help them. We should have pschologists and doctors arranging mentoring and therapy for these people without fear of prosecution. If we really are part of a society we should be helping the people who fall not throw them to the ground.
    the problem is that peodophiles are attracted to children because of their innocence, helplessness and theyre more easily manipulated. this kind of thinking is dangerous, and there needs to be certain measures to prevent them from actually doing it. I can understand why some people hate them, but at the end of the day, hating them isn't going to solve the problme
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    (Original post by kristen2)
    the problem is that peodophiles are attracted to children because of their innocence, helplessness and theyre more easily manipulated
    tbh I'd have thought the main reason is they're simply attracted to per-pubescent bodies/children. If they were attracted to easy to manipulate/innocent people, there are enough adult targets (hell you get stories of paedophiles who target vulnerable adults to get at their children and the parent doesn't even stop them).
 
 
 
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