British universities vs Dutch universities

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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Right so I'm applying for 5 British universities here in the UK (Nottingham/Glasgow are my aspirational unis but I'd go for Notts since its closer to my hometown). I'm also applying to Dutch universities as well which I've read about a lot and really like the ones I've applied to.

    My mind ends up changing every other day and there's pros and cons of going to either a British or a Dutch uni.

    Pros of going to a Dutch uni- It's much cheaper, it has my course taught in English, they do internships at publishing houses (which is what I want to go into) and my aspirational Dutch uni is in an amazing city.

    Cons of going to a Dutch uni- Holidays are way shorter, workload is incredibly intense in the first year, uni starts on the 1st September and I don't get any student loans (so basically would have to rely on my family for income)


    My friends are saying that I'd probably be better off at a Dutch uni but I'm honestly torn between a British uni or a Dutch one. I've applied to my Dutch unis and just need to put in my grades. I'm sending off my UCAS next week.


    Any opinions?



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    Dutch unis are very respected, and in general the Dutch are very academically strong. The country itself is amazing, very chilled people, cool cities. Learning another language and living a different culture. I say go for it!
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    Dutch unis are very respected, and in general the Dutch are very academically strong. The country itself is amazing, very chilled people, cool cities. Learning another language and living a different culture. I say go for it!
    It does look pretty amazing tbf. I think I'd grow a lot if I went abroad in comparison to just moving to Nottingham for uni.
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    Just checked the Dutch version of Track and my application is still in the early stages URGH
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    wolfmoon88 Have you applied yet?
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    wolfmoon88 Have you applied yet?
    Hahaha not yet :P still writing my letter of motivation
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    Hii, I just came here and I would like to ask you some questions about Dutch education system, since you seem to know a lot about it, from what I've read!
    I want to apply for university in Amsterdam, I am an EU citizen, could you please tell me how much it would cost to me? Does the government give students an economic support or should I pay everything on my own?


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    (Original post by MarthaG_)
    Hii, I just came here and I would like to ask you some questions about Dutch education system, since you seem to know a lot about it, from what I've read!
    I want to apply for university in Amsterdam, I am an EU citizen, could you please tell me how much it would cost to me? Does the government give students an economic support or should I pay everything on my own?


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    EU Citizen from the UK or not?
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    (Original post by wolfmoon88)
    EU Citizen from the UK or not?
    Nope, I'm Italian 😊


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    (Original post by MarthaG_)
    Nope, I'm Italian 😊


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    If you are looking for English Language Courses, the University of Amsterdam has 13 taught English Language Courses at the Undergraduate Level (I assume you are applying for undergraduate degrees?)

    Actuarial Science, Business Administration, Communication Science, Econometrics and Operations Research, Economics & Business Economics, European Studies, Liberal Arts and Sciences, Linguistics, Literary Cultural Analysis, Media and Information, Political Science; Politics, Psychology, Law and Economics, and Sign Language Linguistics.

    Other than the Liberal Arts and Sciences program and the PPLE program, the other programs have a fixed statutory tuition fee of 1984 Euros. The Liberal Arts and Sciences program's tuition is 4154 Euros and the PPLE program's tuition is 3968 Euros.(For EU Students)

    Umm I do not know much about funding from government since I am a non-EU international student. Perhaps MrsSheldonCooper will know more. From what I heard studies are mostly self-funded.

    Links:

    Tuition Fees: http://student.uva.nl/en/az/content/...tion-fees.html

    Bachelor Programmes in English in UvA: http://www.uva.nl/en/education/bache...rogrammes.html

    How to find other English Language programmes in Europe: http://www.eunicas.ie/
    Hope this helps Sorry I could not help more with the funding stuff.
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    (Original post by MarthaG_)
    Hii, I just came here and I would like to ask you some questions about Dutch education system, since you seem to know a lot about it, from what I've read!
    I want to apply for university in Amsterdam, I am an EU citizen, could you please tell me how much it would cost to me? Does the government give students an economic support or should I pay everything on my own?


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    Since you're an EU citizen you pay about 1984 euros or something but you can get a student loan from the govt
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    (Original post by wolfmoon88)
    If you are looking for English Language Courses, the University of Amsterdam has 13 taught English Language Courses at the Undergraduate Level (I assume you are applying for undergraduate degrees?)

    Actuarial Science, Business Administration, Communication Science, Econometrics and Operations Research, Economics & Business Economics, European Studies, Liberal Arts and Sciences, Linguistics, Literary Cultural Analysis, Media and Information, Political Science; Politics, Psychology, Law and Economics, and Sign Language Linguistics.

    Other than the Liberal Arts and Sciences program and the PPLE program, the other programs have a fixed statutory tuition fee of 1984 Euros. The Liberal Arts and Sciences program's tuition is 4154 Euros and the PPLE program's tuition is 3968 Euros.(For EU Students)

    Umm I do not know much about funding from government since I am a non-EU international student. Perhaps MrsSheldonCooper will know more. From what I heard studies are mostly self-funded.

    Links:

    Tuition Fees: http://student.uva.nl/en/az/content/...tion-fees.html

    Bachelor Programmes in English in UvA: http://www.uva.nl/en/education/bache...rogrammes.html

    How to find other English Language programmes in Europe: http://www.eunicas.ie/
    Hope this helps Sorry I could not help more with the funding stuff.

    Thanks a lot for your help!! May I ask you a question about the courses? I am interested in literature and humanities, do you think Literary Cultural Analysis is the right choice for me?
    Is the selection very strict? And are the studies in Dutch universities very hard to handle? Sorry if I am bothering you 🙊


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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Since you're an EU citizen you pay about 1984 euros or something but you can get a student loan from the govt
    I was planning to pay university on my own but at the same time I wanted to work several days at week, do you think I could do that or may it be too hard to handle, considering the studies and everything? 🤔 Otherwise I wouldn't know how to maintain myself!


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    (Original post by MarthaG_)
    Thanks a lot for your help!! May I ask you a question about the courses? I am interested in literature and humanities, do you think Literary Cultural Analysis is the right choice for me?
    Is the selection very strict? And are the studies in Dutch universities very hard to handle? Sorry if I am bothering you 🙊


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    The selection isn't that strict unless you're applying for Medicine (they pick you at random then). Have you looked at European studies? They have a European Literature module. That was my first choice then I decided to apply for Linguistics.

    Workload is manageable but there's regular monthly exams so you do need to revise obviously
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    (Original post by MarthaG_)
    I was planning to pay university on my own but at the same time I wanted to work several days at week, do you think I could do that or may it be too hard to handle, considering the studies and everything? 🤔 Otherwise I wouldn't know how to maintain myself!


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    You can get a grant if you work a certain number of hours per month but they don't really recommend it because of the workload. Maybe take a year out or get summer jobs?
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    (Original post by MarthaG_)
    Thanks a lot for your help!! May I ask you a question about the courses? I am interested in literature and humanities, do you think Literary Cultural Analysis is the right choice for me?
    Is the selection very strict? And are the studies in Dutch universities very hard to handle? Sorry if I am bothering you 🙊


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    Quite honestly, I am also an applicant this year so I do not know whether the studies are very hard to handle or not... I would think that university anywhere would be challenging.

    I would think that Literary and Cultural Analysis or Liberal Arts and Sciences are the courses that you are looking for if you want more of a focus on Literature and Humanities though I think Literary and Cultural Analysis is the right choice.

    No not at all I am glad to help
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    (Original post by wolfmoon88)
    Quite honestly, I am also an applicant this year so I do not know whether the studies are very hard to handle or not... I would think that university anywhere would be challenging.

    I would think that Literary and Cultural Analysis or Liberal Arts and Sciences are the courses that you are looking for if you want more of a focus on Literature and Humanities though I think Literary and Cultural Analysis is the right choice.

    No not at all I am glad to help
    Bebs what did you think of the Dutch freshers week vid I sent you?
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Bebs what did you think of the Dutch freshers week vid I sent you?
    Pretty cool they seemed to have a lot of fun! The city of Amsterdam is like their playground
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    wolfmoon88 Just checked my tracking on the application and it says "Admission decision"
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Bebs what did you think of the Dutch freshers week vid I sent you?
    Hey can you send me that vid?
    I fell in love with the Netherlands my freshmen year of high school(even though I've never been there) I told myself that I would apply to at least three universities. My plan is to apply to University of Amsterdam(of course, but expensive), University of Groningen(great city so I've heard) and Uni of Maastricht ( Really close to Germany and Belgium). As a non-eu student from the US the tuition is significantly lower l'll only play about €10,000 plus another €10000 on housing and whatever. Id be saving at least €40000 all together compared to the US. I live in a single parent household and my mom will be happy with the price. The schools I'm applying to in the US are going to cost at least $25,000 for tuition excluding housing.I found some good schools here at a the price, compared to the $35,000 my mom thought she would be paying.
    I'm also applying to one uni in Canada (Mcgill) and five in the UK. Which will still be kind of expensive but better compared to the US. So price wise in order from most affordable to least: Netherlands, Canada, United Kingdom, and United States.
    Of course price isnt the only reason I'm applying. Language learning is a big thing for me. I like the proximity to France and Belgium (the language I'm currently learning.) In Maastricht, I could learn German since it's so close. Also I think it's Groningon that has the French speaking neiborhood.
    Honestly, I think it would be the best experience and employers will like the international experience I'll have. I saw that someone talked about employabilty. I'm pretty sure you'll only have that problem if your trying to become a Doctor or a Lawyer( unless it's an international law course.) In the UK, US and Canada I've chosen International Relations.However in the Netherlands I've chosen European Studes oe European Languages and Cultures (Maastricht). They Have an IR course but at most of the schools I didnt like how some were described. I plan on working internationaly (obvs) so having a degree from outside my country will be beneficial.
    My plan is Bachelors: Netherlands ( more time to study the language) Masters( UK or maybe US) then work experience (prob Peace Corps for two yrs) then MAYBE get a PhD which ld do in the US.
    One thing I'm looking forward to is the biking culture. I'm literally against driving like, I usually walk or take the bus. I just dont see myslf driving, Ill prob be really bad at it.
    Housing wise, I looked on Uni of Groningen website. The have a whole page on the best areas of the city to live for students qhich has been super helpful. I'll prob end up living with a mix of international and national students.
    Cuture Shock... I'm worried about that a bit. I figure the biggest shock will be the language, but I'd prob get over that quickly. Like I've literally been living my whole life around spanish speakers and that hasnt been a prob. (California, you'd think everyone here would be fluent but nope.)
    I think as long as I get involved in sports and clubs (societies, cant remember what they call them in NL. Ill be fine.
    My Mom will probably be behind my decision. Like she let my older brother go to war torn countries in the Air Force for four years. What's the difference? I'll be spending three or four years in europe.
    Haven't started the app yet, just signed up for studielink and all I have to do for UCAS is put in my test scores and pay.
    Sorry this became really long. l just wanted to contribute. So all in all I'm for going to Dutch Unis. I just feel I can't give a decision on which is better because I haven't been to unis in either places.
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    wolfmoon88 Just checked my tracking on the application and it says "Admission decision"
    Woah congrats... so fast

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