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    Jammy Duel, Independent candidate
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    TSR Conservative and Unionist Party
    38
    25.33%
    TSR Labour Party
    48
    32.00%
    TheBigMan2, Independent candidate
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    TSR Liberal Party
    26
    17.33%
    TSR Socialist Party
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    TSR United Kingdom Independence Party
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    (Original post by frankielogue)
    Could not have put Labour better myself


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    But your avatar is the Labour Party logo....


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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    DMcGovern cranbrook_aspie - the Socialists have had an outstanding term with regards to legislation and it has been good to work with you on the occasional project too. I like the professional look of your manifesto and of course agree with the majority of the content. :cool: Here are some questions:

    1) You are obviously one of two left-wing parties standing in this election, along with Labour. Why should a left-wing TSR member who is unsure how to vote, vote for you instead of Labour?
    2) Do you believe there should be a limit to how much trade union power should be increased by?
    3) When you say 'increase NHS funding', are there any specific areas you want to invest in?
    4) What sustainable energies would you invest in and why?
    5) Do you believe your small number of active members could help or hinder you next term?
    As socialists we don't agree with leadership structures and focus on a collectively-run party, so I'm going to give my view which is in line with some members' views and cranbrook will answer, probably more in line with our members

    1) The Labour Party is a "thoroughly bourgeois party, because although it consists of workers it is led by reactionaries, and the worst spirit reactionaries at that, who act fully in the spirit of the bourgeoisie. It is an organisation of the bourgeoisie which exists to systematically deceive the workers."

    2) There should be a limit indeed, because after a certain point, the people do not possess class-consciousness but trade-union consciousness, which the working class spontaneously develops from the narrow ‘conviction that it is necessary to combine in unions, fight employers and strive to compel governments to pass legislation’. There is much talk of spontaneity. But the spontaneous development of the working-class movement leads to its subordination to bourgeois ideology; for the spontaneous working-class movement is trade-unionism, and trade unionism means the ideological enslavement of the workers by the bourgeoisie. Hence, to belittle the socialist ideology in any way, to turn aside from it in the slightest degree means to strengthen bourgeois ideology.

    3) We think that added investment to the NHS as a whole is the most important issue, but perhaps cancer treatment would be a significant area of the NHS to invest in particularly.

    4) Well nuclear power is getting a lot safer, France has had a nuclear power plant for many years now and it has never had problems. That could be a good transition resource, while more reliable and powerful renewable energies develop, but also the establishment of publicly-owned renewable energy, such as tidal power, wind, biomass; a healthy mix is needed.

    5) Our membership is a lot better than it was last year; new members join but it is hard for all parties getting truly reliable and consistently active members. We have a dedicated, elite team of members who have, do not forget, produced the most Bills per capita this term - 6.6 Bills per MP.
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    Indeed, and some posts are 100% fecal matter (I won't include an image because I've just eaten :sick:)
    This made me laugh, a lot. Props to you. :lol:
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    I guess it's time to do the manifesto assessment.

    JD: The use of a massive Union Jack gif, the abominable blue text, the spelling errors and the odd formatting all come together to create the portrait of a man on the edge. Good job.

    Tory: A lovely design inkeeping with the theme of previous manifestos. Tories have succeeded in looking professional and competent, even if that's not reflected in their style of governance.

    Lab: Dare I say one of the better recent Labour manifestos. Sharp design, we're finally able to rival the Tories on that front. Content-wise, Labour is clearly the party presenting a platform for governance that you can believe in.

    TBM2: A solid indie manifesto. Not the best I've seen in recent times but a fine effort. Some common ground with all parties. An interesting one.

    Lib: Better than the last one. But the record in government doesn't fill one with confidence that those policies will be put forward.

    Soc: Very radical imagery and an undeniably socialist message. An ok design. Fair play.

    Kip: Typical Kipper hyperbole and panic. I doubt those economic policies will ever see the light of day. An ok design.
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    PetrosAC what northern cities are you referring to here?
    Nigel Farage an Australian-style point system has been criticised and it's purpose has been said to actually increase immigration, what are your thoughts on that? And also can you confirm what "sensible numbers" is? That is quite vague?
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    (Original post by frankielogue)
    Could not have put Labour better myself


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    Take your damn Labour avatar off then go find a socialist one to put up
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    I guess it's time to do the manifesto assessment.

    Lab: Dare I say one of the better recent Labour manifestos. Sharp design, we're finally able to rival the Tories on that front. Content-wise, Labour is clearly the party presenting a platform for governance that's you can believe in.
    Blowing your own trumpet much?

    Soc: Very radical imagery and an undeniably socialist message. An ok design. Fair play.
    Okay? OKAY? THIS DESIGN WAS FANTASTIC
    Kip: Typical Kipper hyperbole and panic. I doubt those economic policies will ever see the light of day. An ok design.
    *a terrible design

    omg you're killing me
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    100% fecal matter
    Great band
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Blowing your own trumpet much?


    Okay? OKAY? THIS DESIGN WAS FANTASTIC


    *a terrible design

    omg you're killing me
    Meh, it's true.

    I personally preferred the one from last term.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Meh, it's true.

    I personally preferred the one from last term.
    The one from last term was terrible. I was hoping you would use that one so ours would look amazing.
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    (Original post by alextheowl)
    UKIP ftw!!! The only party which is brave enough to tackle problems which other parties are too politically correct to talk about. All of the other parties might aswell be one as they are all so similar. UKIP is different and different is good.
    They said Islamic State was different...
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    The one from last term was terrible. I was hoping you would use that one so ours would look amazing.
    I mean the Socialist one from last term.

    I absolutely prefer Labour's current one to last term's one.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    I guess it's time to do the manifesto assessment.

    Tory: A lovely design inkeeping with the theme of previous manifestos. Tories have succeeded in looking professional and competent, even if that's not reflected in their style of governance.
    You cheeky bugger.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    I mean the Socialist one from last term.

    I absolutely prefer Labour's current one to last term's one.
    Meh. It was alright, a bit overused.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Meh. It was alright, a bit overused.
    Oh yes, certainly overused.
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    (Original post by MrMackyTv)
    PetrosAC what northern cities are you referring to here?
    Nigel Farage an Australian-style point system has been criticised and it's purpose has been said to actually increase immigration, what are your thoughts on that? And also can you confirm what "sensible numbers" is? That is quite vague?
    Saying it increases numbers as a bad thing is somewhat concerning, after all, it shows a MASSIVE, lack of understanding of the policy
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Saying it increases numbers as a bad thing is somewhat concerning, after all, it shows a MASSIVE, lack of understanding of the policy
    I didn't say it was a bad thing...

    And I wasn't misunderstanding anything. I was asking a question. Some people believe that an Australian-style immigration system wouldn't work here - that question does not hint at any lack of understanding.
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    JD - Surprized you are standing as a indie , i like the content of the it

    Conservative - Same old layout , same old content

    Labour and Soc - Nice Layout and design , the only thing to let it down is the content

    Liberals - Do you even brother to make a new one ?

    UKIP - Poor Design and content ... I am not responsible for this and my suggestions were blanked ... please pass any comments to UU
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    (Original post by MrMackyTv)
    PetrosAC what northern cities are you referring to here?
    Nigel Farage an Australian-style point system has been criticised and it's purpose has been said to actually increase immigration, what are your thoughts on that? And also can you confirm what "sensible numbers" is? That is quite vague?
    An Australian-style points system does not increase immigration, it controls the number of immigrants by changing the criteria to earn points, and the number of points needed to earn a visa. A sensible number is the number needed when a study has been conducted to find Britain's reliance on skilled immigration, when Britain's reliance on skilled immigration is known a number can be given.
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)

    Liberals - Do you even brother to make a new one ?
    The liberal party is so inactive, I'm sure PetrosAC wasn't asistered in making a new one.

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