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I do. I rather like it. Its tragic when you see people wearing the hoodies/trackies and uggs all together. Not a fan of their casual stuff tbh. But the rest, me likes
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Jen is my hero, proper pwnage has just been dished out.
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woo got my beret on monday it's lovely
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yay that beret is soo cute, im so jealous!!



anddd can i just say i wasn't trying to "pwn" anyone or be nasty :p: i was just trying to have a discussion about it and it got a bit stupid! (loving the cheeky lil bit of editing after calling me rude too.haha..amazed at how the jeans have gone back from £60 to £20 but i'll give it a rest now )
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yay that beret is soo cute, im so jealous!!



anddd can i just say i wasn't trying to "pwn" anyone or be nasty :p: i was just trying to have a discussion about it and it got a bit stupid! (loving the cheeky lil bit of editing after calling me rude too.haha..amazed at how the jeans have gone back from £60 to £20 but i'll give it a rest now )
Um, no, three pairs of jeans for 60 pounds in the same as one for twenty. There has been no ownage, the only ones owned are the ones buying jack wills. I had a look at the website, never LOLed so hard in my life. I had to send a link to everyone too. Oh my goodness the JW lifestyle section really is classic comedy. The company does really layer it on thick doesn't it, trying to create an image for it's brand to justify it's prices :rolleyes:
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http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...=4487&Gender=9 !!!!!!

http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...7&Gender=DENIM

http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...=5062&Gender=9

http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...=5340&Gender=9

http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...=4200&Gender=9

http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...=4154&Gender=9



There really is this dumb belief in England that expensive means good. It's probably why companies can rip us off so much in this country. How you spend your money does effect the rest of us since the market then provides for the consumer. I have to admit though, the owner of Jack Wills is pretty damn clever for knowing how to get people to part with their money

Anyway, these items are ridiculous.
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Um, no, three pairs of jeans for 60 pounds in the same as one for twenty. There has been no ownage, the only ones owned are the ones buying jack wills. I had a look at the website, never LOLed so hard in my life. I had to send a link to everyone too. Oh my goodness the JW lifestyle section really is classic comedy. The company does really layer it on thick doesn't it, trying to create an image for it's brand to justify it's prices :rolleyes:
Oh i misread and actually thought you had used your money wisely spending £60 on a pair of jeans that would last longer. I stand by my cheap tack comment and think you would have been much better off in investing the one pair rather 3 at £20...but your choice if you want to buy 3 pairs. Jeans always look better with age as they mould to you and wear a bit, but not when they fall apart and need to be re-bought But hey-ho.

Wow you sat sending links to people? That's pretty sad don't you think? I'm sure you could have used your time a bit more wisely. I'm not part of the "Jack Wills Lifestyle" so they obviously have more than one market so i think they ought to be pretty happy with themselves actually! Good effort.

I think the superior materials used to make the products, the quality, and the fit justify the prices actually. The lifestyle comes separately and isn't required to justify the purchase of decent casual clothing that lasts.
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http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...=4487&Gender=9 !!!!!!

http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...7&Gender=DENIM

http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...=5062&Gender=9

http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...=5340&Gender=9

http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...=4200&Gender=9

http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...=4154&Gender=9



There really is this dumb belief in England that expensive means good. It's probably why companies can rip us off so much in this country. How you spend your money does effect the rest of us since the market then provides for the consumer. I have to admit though, the owner of Jack Wills is pretty damn clever for knowing how to get people to part with their money

Anyway, these items are ridiculous.


Yes, as has been said, and as is a lot of 'designer' stuff.

That said, some of the things they sell are lovely - I have this

http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...=4191&Gender=9

and it's honestly the nicest jumper I own. It's pure lambswool, fits really nicely, and is really warm. You just can't get things like that in Topshop etc.

Anyway, I really don't understand why you're spending so much time going on at this - if you wouldn't buy it, fine. Just leave it at that, don't try to tell other people how they should spend their money. It really makes you look bitter.
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(Original post by she)
http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...=4487&Gender=9 !!!!!!

http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...7&Gender=DENIM

http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...=5062&Gender=9

http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...=5340&Gender=9

http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...=4200&Gender=9

http://www.jackwills.co.uk/Store/Pro...=4154&Gender=9



There really is this dumb belief in England that expensive means good. It's probably why companies can rip us off so much in this country. How you spend your money does effect the rest of us since the market then provides for the consumer. I have to admit though, the owner of Jack Wills is pretty damn clever for knowing how to get people to part with their money

Anyway, these items are ridiculous.

Oooh out come the links again, i'm quite surprised actually that you chose several of the cheapest items on the site as opposed to the £200+ jackets and whatnot. Very peculiar choices there.

It's not a "dumb belief", it's just very often a fact, i thought we explained this yesterday or do we have to keep going over and over the same things? Cos this could get a little bit boring, oh sorry..it got boring yesterday!

It doesn't affect you in any way whatsoever...just because a market is created doesn't mean you become part of it, and quite frankly i'm glad you don't fit into any market that interests me personally. You're obviously not being ripped off if you can still buy perfectly good £20 jeans so don't let it get to you

Jack Wills is clever, we agree on one thing, i never thought i'd see the day!
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Oooh out come the links again, i'm quite surprised actually that you chose several of the cheapest items on the site as opposed to the £200+ jackets and whatnot. Very peculiar choices there.

It's not a "dumb belief", it's just very often a fact, i thought we explained this yesterday or do we have to keep going over and over the same things? Cos this could get a little bit boring, oh sorry..it got boring yesterday!

It doesn't affect you in any way whatsoever...just because a market is created doesn't mean you become part of it, and quite frankly i'm glad you don't fit into any market that interests me personally. You're obviously not being ripped off if you can still buy perfectly good £20 jeans so don't let it get to you

Jack Wills is clever, we agree on one thing, i never thought i'd see the day!

I chose those items just to show how ridiculous the company is. A pair of knickers for £19 pounds, and a denim mini skirt for £69? Anyone paying that much for those items deserves to be ripped off. Anyone willing to pay that much is also blinded by the advertising and the way the product is packaged :rolleyes: But if someone wants to pay for an item because of the ideology built up around it then they are pretty stupid. Jack Wills is clever for managing to rip you off and having you defend it too

Of course the way you spend effects me. If everyone is willing to pay some price for an item it'll stay that price, not be offered for less.
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I do think you pay a brand premium for JW, to be honest. I don't see how you can claim otherwise. It's not the only component of the premium compared to other shops, but it certainly exists.
It is your money, but I can still think you're silly for wasting it
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I chose those items just to show how ridiculous the company is. A pair of knickers for £19 pounds, and a denim mini skirt for £69? Anyone paying that much for those items deserves to be ripped off. Anyone willing to pay that much is also blinded by the advertising and the way the product is packaged :rolleyes: But if someone wants to pay for an item because of the ideology built up around it then they are pretty stupid. Jack Wills is clever for managing to rip you off and having you defend it too

Of course the way you spend effects me. If everyone is willing to pay some price for an item it'll stay that price, not be offered for less.
The knickers are clearly a novelty item, i think they make a cute stocking filler or something, nobody expects you to have a different pair of £19 Jack Wills to wear every day and often they're meant as an alternative to pyjama bottoms so you just have the cute pair to sleep in And £69 for a denim mini skirt is perfectly reasonable. I spent a similar amount on a Ted Baker one about 6 years ago and i'm wearing the very same skirt today, so a skirt for £11.50ish per year which hasn't gone out of fashion cos it's just a standard demin skirt...pretty good i reckon!! It's no rip off in any way, shape or form And people will defend it when silly little people can't understand the concept of spending a bit extra for better fit and quality.

No the way i spend does not Affect you at all. I can carry on buying my "luxury" items and you can buy your pair of knickers in primark for a pound and then everybody is happy. The day it affects you is when you can no longer do this and are forced to pay £20 per pair of knickers. Until then please shut up and stop preaching that people choosing items better than yours affects you in any other way that you can't have the same as other people.
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http://www.hays.com/jobs/jackwills/

They even admit what I've said myself:

"Jack Wills are committed to a heavy investment in design throughout all aspects of the business which allows them to make a better product, and therefore charge a price premium, over their competitors."

Heavy investment in all aspect of the business doesn't mean just investing in good quality clothing. It means sponsoring polo parties to make you believe it's a good quality product so that you want to pay £19 pounds for a pair of knickers so they then can afford to sponsor polo parties.
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I do think you pay a brand premium for JW, to be honest. I don't see how you can claim otherwise. It's not the only component of the premium compared to other shops, but it certainly exists.
It is your money, but I can still think you're silly for wasting it

You pay a premium for any brand, it's part of the package. But at the same time you can't deny that these brands are providing better quality in the process, whether they're charging more than the product's worth without the brand name or not.
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http://www.hays.com/jobs/jackwills/

They even admit what I've said myself:

"Jack Wills are committed to a heavy investment in design throughout all aspects of the business which allows them to make a better product, and therefore charge a price premium, over their competitors."

Heavy investment in all aspect of the business doesn't mean just investing in good quality clothing. It means sponsoring polo parties to make you believe it's a good quality product so that you want to pay £19 pounds for a pair of knickers so they then can afford to sponsor polo parties.
Its called business sweetie. You make a premium product, you charge a premium price.
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You pay a premium for any brand, it's part of the package. But at the same time you can't deny that these brands are providing better quality in the process, whether they're charging more than the product's worth without the brand name or not.
Possibly. But arguably there are clothes of equal quality available for less, simply because they're not Jack Wills.
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http://www.hays.com/jobs/jackwills/

They even admit what I've said myself:

"Jack Wills are committed to a heavy investment in design throughout all aspects of the business which allows them to make a better product, and therefore charge a price premium, over their competitors."

Heavy investment in all aspect of the business doesn't mean just investing in good quality clothing. It means sponsoring polo parties to make you believe it's a good quality product so that you want to pay £19 pounds for a pair of knickers so they then can afford to sponsor polo parties.

Polo parties are fun. Fact is, they don't charge any more than most designer brands and even if they do, it does not affect you. We have freedom of choice in this country, which means we are free to spend our money on whatever brand of clothing we want to. As I said earlier, stop trying to dictate to people.
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The knickers are clearly a novelty item, i think they make a cute stocking filler or something, nobody expects you to have a different pair of £19 Jack Wills to wear every day and often they're meant as an alternative to pyjama bottoms so you just have the cute pair to sleep in And £69 for a denim mini skirt is perfectly reasonable. I spent a similar amount on a Ted Baker one about 6 years ago and i'm wearing the very same skirt today, so a skirt for £11.50ish per year which hasn't gone out of fashion cos it's just a standard demin skirt...pretty good i reckon!! It's no rip off in any way, shape or form And people will defend it when silly little people can't understand the concept of spending a bit extra for better fit and quality.

No the way i spend does not Affect you at all. I can carry on buying my "luxury" items and you can buy your pair of knickers in primark for a pound and then everybody is happy. The day it affects you is when you can no longer do this and are forced to pay £20 per pair of knickers. Until then please shut up and stop preaching that people choosing items better than yours affects you in any other way that you can't have the same as other people.
I don't buy anything in primark, but it's funny how you assume that I do just because I refuse to pay Jack Wills prices and that you buy quality items because you do pay Jack Wills prices.

It's this whole "if something is expensive it is good" mistake people make.

"And people will defend it when silly little people can't understand the concept of spending a bit extra for better fit and quality"

Exactly the type of attitude I'd expect from someone who would pay £69 for a short denim skirt. I understand quality that's why what I buy lasts me for ages, but I don't go paying 5 times what I should for it.
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http://www.hays.com/jobs/jackwills/

They even admit what I've said myself:

"Jack Wills are committed to a heavy investment in design throughout all aspects of the business which allows them to make a better product, and therefore charge a price premium, over their competitors."

Heavy investment in all aspect of the business doesn't mean just investing in good quality clothing. It means sponsoring polo parties to make you believe it's a good quality product so that you want to pay £19 pounds for a pair of knickers so they then can afford to sponsor polo parties.
A large proportion of people buying the Jack Wills items have never set foot in a polo party in their life, so it's clearly not a necessity in order to be able to sell their products. I keep myself entirely separate from the lifestyle yet continue to choose to buy the products, without any "belief" that they're good simply because they can sponsor summer parties. They sell products you can't buy in other stores so of course people will choose to go and buy these things from where they can.

Do you simply not understand anything about competition? Of course brands have to compete otherwise there would be one shop where everyone bought everything and the world would be a very dull place. The sponsorships are just one way of their advertising, just as Kate Moss is used to endorse Topshop's products, yet you're not ranting about that and her "lifestyle".
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Polo parties are fun. Fact is, they don't charge any more than most designer brands and even if they do, it does not affect you. We have freedom of choice in this country, which means we are free to spend our money on whatever brand of clothing we want to. As I said earlier, stop trying to dictate to people.
I think other brands are ridiculous too not just JW. I'm not trying to dictate just to give my opinion, which you obviously don't like You can spend £690 on a mini denim skirt for all I care and I'm not going to try and stop you. I'll still think it's stupid, and be right, though.


"Polo parties are fun"

That's the whole point though isn't it. Sponsor a fun event for people with "aspirational" leanings that will make them feel superior for buying their expensive brand which is expensive so that they can sponsor events.
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