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    (Original post by d41k57)
    Sorry for any confusion, I know the fast stream competencies are the same for everyone. All I meant was that on my timetable they identified a subset of four of them that would be covered in my interview. They even told me which two would form the first half of my interview and which two the second. I didn't want to specify which four in case they pick different specific competencies for different streams. They probably don't but I was just being careful.
    Sorry I'm not clear, I meant that every exercise in FSAC has the competencies measured in each exercise in the guide. The interview has the four you speak of, the site appears to be down atm but they're definitely in that pdf, no secret about that!
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    (Original post by Rick7777)
    I had my FSAC on 14th January and have today heard that I have passed Digital and Technology but I’m still awaiting results for Parliament and GFS, so I presume I am amber banded. I’m obviously disappointed not to make the initial cut, but relieved that my mark is at least good enough to be considered for next stage of DAT.

    Does anyone know the approximate marks you have to get at FSAC to pass Parliament or GFS at this stage (i.e. immediately after FSAC)?

    Is anyone else in the same boat? I’m not particularly looking forward to the prospect of weeks, or even months, of waiting for the bands to narrow.
    It varies year to year. If you're really dedicated you can trawl previous threads going back years to work out an average.
    I think last year successful DaTs varied from 15.5 to 18 in order to reach the final selection board. For a successful GFS Central, then a 16.5 should do it. To get to DS or HoP final selection board, you'll likely have to score high 17s through 18s.
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    (Original post by E.Marie)
    Hello everyone

    Well done to all those who have passed their FSAC, and good luck to those still waiting!

    I have mine on the 2nd Feb, and was wondering if anyone wants to share their experiences of the day?
    In particular, how was the interview? I know its competency based, but do they ask about all the competencies or just a couple (want to prep some good examples!)

    Any advice much appreciated!
    Best of luck on the 2nd!

    It's a long day, that leaves you very exhausted both physically and mentally at the end, however, you get a strangely rewarding feeling at the end.

    I had around 45 minutes before the first task after first arriving, where we sat in the lounge with coffee making facilities. Although nervous, I found it useful to socialise with the other candidates as it puts you at ease and potentially puts you with a friendly face during the group exercise. This exercise was my first. I treated it as a real meeting where we are assessing different options, and made sure to contribute to the discussion of other projects and make sure we didn't let too much time slip by on any one part.

    My second task was the policy report. I personally quite enjoyed this, but keep in mind that you do not have time to read and discuss everything in the documents, so make sure you prioritise your time effectively.

    My third task was the policy report, which I felt was a disaster. I prepared well for the ten minute presentation, where I presented to the assessor (who's your fictitious manager in the scenario) a background to the project and discussed issues and possible solutions. Where I felt this went badly wrong was in the 20 minutes of questions that followed, where I felt I didn't have enough information to respond to the assessor's questions without being vague. I really didn't like this!

    After that I had around 30 minutes before going into the interview. Since I was tired by this stage and felt a little fed up with the last task, I had to quickly pick my spirits back up and be positive.

    As others have said, the interview is competency based, with questions on: Managing a Quality Service, Delivering at Pace, Collaborating and Partnering, and Building Capability for All. I prepared beforehand by thinking of examples for each. As others have said, some overlap, but if they do you'll need to give another example as a question is asked in each. I used the STAR approach in answering questions.

    And that's that. I think the best advice for the day is to try to stay relaxed, positive and talk to other candidates, as you're all under a lot of pressure. Also, remember not to let one bad task derail you, since you don't need to ace each of them.

    Best of luck!
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    (Original post by sempitern)
    You don't really get such an option in GFS - generally speaking.
    Analytical schemes tend to give preferences. Having said that, you can influence the posting process - certainly after the first post - by ensuring that your career desires and preferences are known to your cohort leader.

    Of course this might change in future but until now, it has to my knowledge been the case that you don't choose or select preferences for department in GFS.

    Thanks very much for answering - seems like I got the wrong end of the stick, as I thought you could give a preference for your "home department" in GFS too. Don't know how I got that into my head!

    I'm wondering then (if they decide to accept you) whether they place you in a department which they think would fit your strengths and experience, or put you somewhere less in line with your past experience to work on your weak areas...

    If anyone who started the Fast Stream has any experience of how that worked I'd be interested to know.

    Thanks!
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    (Original post by rastgazel)
    Thanks very much for answering - seems like I got the wrong end of the stick, as I thought you could give a preference for your "home department" in GFS too. Don't know how I got that into my head!

    I'm wondering then (if they decide to accept you) whether they place you in a department which they think would fit your strengths and experience, or put you somewhere less in line with your past experience to work on your weak areas...

    If anyone who started the Fast Stream has any experience of how that worked I'd be interested to know.

    Thanks!

    A fast streamer I spoke to had experience in journalism. For his first placement he was working on media and PR in the MoD, and for his second placement he was (reluctantly) sent to work in finance at the Home Office as he didn't have any financial experience.

    So it seems to be a mix of things you are interested in and think you will want to work in after the scheme, and things you need to get experience of.
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    (Original post by rastgazel)
    Thanks very much for answering - seems like I got the wrong end of the stick, as I thought you could give a preference for your "home department" in GFS too. Don't know how I got that into my head!

    I'm wondering then (if they decide to accept you) whether they place you in a department which they think would fit your strengths and experience, or put you somewhere less in line with your past experience to work on your weak areas...

    If anyone who started the Fast Stream has any experience of how that worked I'd be interested to know.

    Thanks!
    No problem. There's so many schemes and they have slight differences - it's almost impossible to get the right end of the stick even for those on one of the various schemes.
    I believe the main difference is that on the analytical schemes you are owned by a department, they pay you and train you. Therefore it makes sense that they give you some choice since it's a more fixed placement - for a longer period.

    With GFS/DaT, you are on the corporate scheme and are essentially a central resource. You are paid the same in each post and move around much more. For the first placement, there is little choice. They will take into account such things as children, caring, disability (for location purposes). Otherwise it's a matter of policy, operational or corporate role. If a person does policy first and then their next post will most certainly be operational or corporate. Within those areas there are more skills to learn such as commercial and people management. There's hundreds of people to match up with posts. Therefore it is these issues that drive where you go and not a government department.

    Having said all of this, if a person were to confess to their cohort leader that they have a passionate desire to work in areas such as - say - climate change, then they would probably try and help that person meet the development goals in a closely matched department such as DECC.
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    Thanks guys both of those responses were very helpful :-)
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    FSAC on the 13th.....of March - a long wait indeed! I'm almost worried there will be no positions left? But surely (this is for GFS / HOP btw) if you get X score on FSAC you are still guaranteed a position in central dep, regardless of stage at which you did FSAC?
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    Is there anybody here who did the FSAC on Monday (19th)? If so, have you had any news yet?

    Thanks x
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    (Original post by Sam8s)
    I was there on the 19th, still no news. My page changed to "awaiting results" but that's it
    Same here! Mine changed yesterday evening circa 5pm.

    How did you find FSAC? Which group were you in?
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    (Original post by Lauws)
    FSAC on the 13th.....of March - a long wait indeed! I'm almost worried there will be no positions left? But surely (this is for GFS / HOP btw) if you get X score on FSAC you are still guaranteed a position in central dep, regardless of stage at which you did FSAC?
    It's all score based and so it doesn't matter when you attend FSAC. The top % of scores will pass.
    The only reason that some people are informed earlier in the process is if they have enough data and knowledge to know - based on all previous years - if that score is high or low. If so, it's successful or unsuccessful within days of attending. All other scores in the middle will wait until the very last FSAC before receiving a final outcome.
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    (Original post by sempitern)
    It's all score based and so it doesn't matter when you attend FSAC. The top % of scores will pass.
    The only reason that some people are informed earlier in the process is if they have enough data and knowledge to know - based on all previous years - if that score is high or low. If so, it's successful or unsuccessful within days of attending. All other scores in the middle will wait until the very last FSAC before receiving a final outcome.

    Excellent, thanks very much.
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    Has anyone who applied for the Government Communications Scheme had an assessment centre yet/had results for it yet? I had my assessment centre last Thursday and still waiting so I guess I'll be waiting a while!
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    (Original post by bertiev2)
    Has anyone who applied for the Government Communications Scheme had an assessment centre yet/had results for it yet? I had my assessment centre last Thursday and still waiting so I guess I'll be waiting a while!
    Mine's not until the 30th of March! Can I just check that our FSAC is the same as the generalist one... as there is no mention of anything specifically to do with Communications in the guide. Also, everyone has said that in the interview, it is entirely based on competencies, was this the same in your experience? Did the interviewer know you have applied for the Comms scheme?

    Thanks and good luck with your results!
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    Anyone applying for the Diplomatic Scheme got any news yet?
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    (Original post by thursdayJ)
    Mine's not until the 30th of March! Can I just check that our FSAC is the same as the generalist one... as there is no mention of anything specifically to do with Communications in the guide. Also, everyone has said that in the interview, it is entirely based on competencies, was this the same in your experience? Did the interviewer know you have applied for the Comms scheme?

    Thanks and good luck with your results!
    Thanks, looks like I'll be waiting a while then! I'm presuming that as a new scheme they may not even have any rough ideas as to which scores will be immediate pass/fails at this stage.

    The assessment centre is exactly the same as for everyone else, in my group there were people applying to Generalist, HR, HoP etc and we all had exactly the same experience. The assessors don't know what scheme any of us have applied for but in discussion I found it useful to mention to the assessor of both my leadership exercise and interviewer.

    If, however, we pass the FSAC we will be invited to a final selection board where we will be tested/questioned on things specific to the department and scheme (I think?). It said somewhere that these would run between Feb and April but since your FSAC is so late I guess that means they won't be until April for this scheme?

    Good luck
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    Anyone who did their FSAC on the 19th of Jan, just got my rejection through so it seems they're pushing out the definite yes/no's as of today.

    Feeling slightly disappointed but I knew it was coming...

    Good luck to everyone else!
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    Just got rejected for HoP (also had FSAC on the 19th Jan) still waiting for Central Departments. I guess that might mean I'm amber banded?

    Commiserations/ congratulations to everybody else
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    I was immediately successful for the HR Stream!


    For anyone wondering, I was at the FSAC on Monday (19 Jan), my status changed to 'Awaiting Results' at 5pm on Wednesday (21 Jan) and I found out that I was successful this morning at 10am!


    I am so so happy! Thanks to everyone who offered me advice and good luck to all those still waiting. Please let me know if I can help!

    Commiserations to all those receiving disappointing news. Don't give up - many more people get through the second time around, apparently! x
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    (Original post by PJ07)
    Anyone applying for the Diplomatic Scheme got any news yet?
    Nope still awaiting results! I guess we're amber banded (my FSAC was 8th Jan though)

    Bit confused about when the first band narrowing will be, website is contradictory
 
 
 
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