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    (Original post by Zayn is Bae)
    Whichever way you look at it, Juve have been mugged off. Napoli's value of Gonzalo is irrelevant to his actual market worth (it's like me saying my PS4 is worth £900, and then somebody paying it and it's argued as a fair price). At least it'll take some of the heat off us with regards to the Pogba price though.
    You adjusted for exchange rates though? This same transfer would have been £64M had it taken place in January. You also factor that the release clause was what was triggered, therefore the value of the transfer has not even gone up to what it would have been in January(release clause would be in euros not pounds) then it's not even a bump. The UK's perspective of the deal is that it's a bump, but Juve's perspective is that they've significantly weakened a Serie A rival and strengthened their attack in the process.

    Well it's different because unless you have a special feature that makes it hard for you to let go of your PS4(e.g.. it's the last one left, collectors items) then you can just go to the store and buy a new one with ease. Are Napoli going to find another Higuain, or are they going to downgrade on a guy like Icardi?
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    You adjusted for exchange rates though?

    Well it's different because unless you have a special feature that makes it hard for you to let go of your PS4(e.g.. it's the last one left, collectors items) then you can just go to the store and buy a new one with ease. Are Napoli going to find another Higuain, or are they going to downgrade on a guy like Icardi?
    It's a transfer between two Italian clubs, the exchange rate has little relevance (unless Napoli specifically ask for the money in pounds sterling, which seems unlikely). You are correct, but the value he holds to Napoli doesn't equal the value he now holds to Juve (akin to how Ighalo is "priceless" to Watford, McCormack to Fulham). The price they've just paid is an admission of this however. It's not like there's a lack of quality out there as well, players like Batshuayi have moved in the summer (fair enough he's not Higuain quality yet but the better part of a decade younger) and Lacazette/Gamiero would be available for the right price, which would certainly be less than €94m.
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    (Original post by Zayn is Bae)
    It's a transfer between two Italian clubs, the exchange rate has little relevance (unless Napoli specifically ask for the money in pounds sterling, which seems unlikely). You are correct, but the value he holds to Napoli doesn't equal the value he now holds to Juve (akin to how Ighalo is "priceless" to Watford, McCormack to Fulham). The price they've just paid is an admission of this however. It's not like there's a lack of quality out there as well, players like Batshuayi have moved in the summer (fair enough he's not Higuain quality yet but the better part of a decade younger) and Lacazette/Gamiero would be available for the right price, which would certainly be less than €94m.
    The exchange rate has relevance because from a UK angle you say the price is £75M, but really the value is 90-94M euros (which was £64M earlier in the year, which is obviously less of a bump if at all) None of the players mentioned are better than Higuain? Find me a better player available than Higuain for a cheaper price? Matter of fact is that only Ibra(who didn't want to go to Serie A anyway and is 34 years old) could be classified as a better player.Also Juventus bought Pjaca and have significantly weakened a Serie A rival. They have bought defenders for cover and have already replaced Pogba in Pjanic.

    They now have 3/4 first team strikers to rotate for two spots. Clearly their aim is to win the champions league and their team is stronger than ever to do so.
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    Juve's aim now is the CL.

    You don't spend £75million for a striker with a **** record in the completion if you want to win it. Poor move.
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    form not that important though, small sample etc
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    They've strengthened enough in other areas to the point where it doesn't matter how much they pay for Higuain now..
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    (Original post by Rk2k14)
    Juve's aim now is the CL.

    You don't spend £75million for a striker with a **** record in the completion if you want to win it. Poor move.
    Last time Higuain played in the CL he had 4 goals in 5 appearances and he was regularly the number 2 striker at Real Madrid, constantly being subbed off first.

    Take for example 11/12, he scored 3 goals in 12 appearances, yet played a grand total of 530 minutes, which equates to a goal every 2 games.
    In 09/10 he scores 2 goals in 7 appearances, plays 473 minutes, that's a goal every 2.5 games.
    In 12/13 he had a shocking record no two ways about it(1 goal in 483mins)
    In 10/11 he had 2 goals in 410mins(just over 1 in 2) and he was injured for large parts of that season anyway.

    Plus anyway Fernando Torres scores goals in europe, should Juventus have tried to go for him instead if they wanted to win the CL, or go for a generally more reliable source of goals in Higuain?

    They also have Mandzukic and Dybala in place of Higuain if he's having a **** game anyway.
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    Last time Higuain played in the CL he had 4 goals in 5 appearances and he was regularly the number 2 striker at Real Madrid, constantly being subbed off first.

    Take for example 11/12, he scored 3 goals in 12 appearances, yet played a grand total of 530 minutes, which equates to a goal every 2 games.
    In 09/10 he scores 2 goals in 7 appearances, plays 473 minutes, that's a goal every 2.5 games.
    In 12/13 he had a shocking record no two ways about it(1 goal in 483mins)
    In 10/11 he had 2 goals in 410mins(just over 1 in 2) and he was injured for large parts of that season anyway.

    Plus anyway Fernando Torres scores goals in europe, should Juventus have tried to go for him instead if they wanted to win the CL, or go for a generally more reliable source of goals in Higuain?

    They also have Mandzukic and Dybala in place of Higuain if he's having a **** game anyway.
    Doesn't take away the fact he's one of the biggest bottlers in the world. £75million for a bottler is jokes.

    Anyway, not a Juve fan so can't complain
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    You adjusted for exchange rates though?
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    Matter of fact is that to Napoli he's worth £75M, his goals are very difficult to replace for Napoli, even if there are strikers around(like Suarez/Costa/Ibra/Cavani/Lewandowski/Aubameyang/Aguero/Sturridge etc.) who have the ability to replicate that kind of form at their various clubs, matter of fact is that none of those players will be sold at this moment in time and not for less than £75M.
    Also, imagine including Sturridge in that list.

    Brb, Pogba deal is off because Diaby will sort our midfield out.
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    (Original post by Rk2k14)
    JYou don't spend £75million for a striker with a **** record in the completion if you want to win it. Poor move.
    I disagree with your logic. In sport you get the best you can, there is no title for pounds spend to points won. If you spend £1 and come second to a team that spends £100m, you came second they won. There are no value trophies in football. If you win and didn't financially collapse, job done.

    If Higuian isn't good enough for CL ambitions that is one thing, but the money has nothing to do with that. That argument can be made if they got him on a free. If he is good enough, or is going to move them close enough that chance or another player could finish the job, then they are going to pay what they need to pay. In this case, he's the best striker they can reasonably target and he's within their overall budget. Get it done, period.

    The logic you are advocating is basically Wenger's transfer strategy. The problem with that is you either never pay the money for the players you want because their value is inflated by the market around them, or they players you want get purchased by other clubs willing to pay more than you value them. The only players you can buy are ones where they are undiscovered, horrible miscalculations in value, or cast offs. All options which contain huge risk and are situations not within your control. Basically its a recipe for how to run a financially sound club which wins nothing. The value trophy.
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    (Original post by Louis.)
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    Also, imagine including Sturridge in that list.

    Brb, Pogba deal is off because Diaby will sort our midfield out.
    Transfer is in euros though(so it actually has validity) and that moh thing was a good one. **** sake his face is punchable. Arsenal probably aren't going to sign anybody else this summer because the pound has weakened anyway.

    Sturridge when fit is on the list. Same goes for Harry Kane.
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    Higuain has just gone off the back of a season where he's scored a goal a game in one of the top leagues.

    Plus to add to that other than the 10/11 season(where he had an injury for half the season) he'd been getting 15+ league goals as a rotational option at Real Madrid.

    Matter of fact is that to Napoli he's worth £75M, his goals are very difficult to replace for Napoli, even if there are strikers around(like Suarez/Costa/Ibra/Cavani/Lewandowski/Aubameyang/Aguero/Sturridge etc.) who have the ability to replicate that kind of form at their various clubs, matter of fact is that none of those players will be sold at this moment in time and not for less than £75M.
    Serie A a top league you know...
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    Transfer is in euros though(so it actually has validity) and that moh thing was a good one. **** sake his face is punchable. Arsenal probably aren't going to sign anybody else this summer because the pound has weakened anyway.

    Sturridge when fit is on the list. Same goes for Harry Kane.
    I'm sure it does, can't miss out on a chance for an easy shot though.
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    (Original post by zKlown)
    Serie A a top league you know...
    Well it's no.4 and is pretty damn close to overtaking the premier league in terms of seedings so I don't get the point of your antiquated view.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_coefficient

    We were supposed to have 3 spots this year and probably would have if Juventus didn't bottle it against Bayern Munich.
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    (Original post by Fizzel)
    I disagree with your logic. In sport you get the best you can, there is no title for pounds spend to points won. If you spend £1 and come second to a team that spends £100m, you came second they won. There are no value trophies in football. If you win and didn't financially collapse, job done.

    If Higuian isn't good enough for CL ambitions that is one thing, but the money has nothing to do with that. That argument can be made if they got him on a free. If he is good enough, or is going to move them close enough that chance or another player could finish the job, then they are going to pay what they need to pay. In this case, he's the best striker they can reasonably target and he's within their overall budget. Get it done, period.

    The logic you are advocating is basically Wenger's transfer strategy. The problem with that is you either never pay the money for the players you want because their value is inflated by the market around them, or they players you want get purchased by other clubs willing to pay more than you value them. The only players you can buy are ones where they are undiscovered, horrible miscalculations in value, or cast offs. All options which contain huge risk and are situations not within your control. Basically its a recipe for how to run a financially sound club which wins nothing. The value trophy.
    The logic is that Juventus are spending a huge amount of money on a player who is unproven on the big stage, and that stage being the Champions League. A trophy Juventus haven't won for roughly 20 years. Presume they wanted to get him to take them to the next stage. Conquered the league and even without him they'll probably win it again. CL is what eludes them and don't see how Higuain helps them in that case. Could prove me wrong, guess we'll find out.

    The money is important because they've splashed out £75million on a striker notorious for being one of the biggest bottlers in the sport. Admittedly there aren't many top strikers in the world available but don't believe Higuain is the only top striker on the market.

    I would gladly advocate Wenger's transfer policy if it meant I wasn't spending £75million on a guy with a history of bottling. Value for money n ting. If they'd done their business earlier maybe they would have had a chance with someone like Ibra. Wont know now and now they've been taken to the cleaners by Napoli.

    Every player's value is inflated by the market so disagree with that point.
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    (Original post by Rk2k14)
    The logic is that Juventus are spending a huge amount of money on a player who is unproven on the big stage, and that stage being the Champions League. A trophy Juventus haven't won for roughly 20 years. Presume they wanted to get him to take them to the next stage. Conquered the league and even without him they'll probably win it again. CL is what eludes them and don't see how Higuain helps them in that case. Could prove me wrong, guess we'll find out.

    The money is important because they've splashed out £75million on a striker notorious for being one of the biggest bottlers in the sport. Admittedly there aren't many top strikers in the world available but don't believe Higuain is the only top striker on the market.

    I would gladly advocate Wenger's transfer policy if it meant I wasn't spending £75million on a guy with a history of bottling. Value for money n ting. If they'd done their business earlier maybe they would have had a chance with someone like Ibra. Wont know now and now they've been taken to the cleaners by Napoli.

    Every player's value is inflated by the market so disagree with that point.
    Higuain is younger and will be useful for more seasons. Ibra has 0 CLs to his name too.
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    Higuain is younger and will be useful for more seasons. Ibra has 0 CLs to his name too.
    Ibra isn't a WC bottler.
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    Higuain is younger and will be useful for more seasons. Ibra has 0 CLs to his name too.
    To be fair the fact that Ibra doesn't have any won't matter considering... :ahee:
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    (Original post by Rk2k14)
    Ibra isn't a WC bottler.
    Well he's a main reason why PSG didn't make the CL semi finals last year. Missed a pen, missed a 1 on 1 in the first leg vs City and that should have put them out of sight in the first leg.

    But hey it's just Higuain.
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    Well he's a main reason why PSG didn't make the CL semi finals last year. Missed a pen, missed a 1 on 1 in the first leg vs City and that should have put them out of sight in the first leg.

    But hey it's just Higuain.
    Not like Higuain ****ed up his countries chances of winning the World Cup and Copa America.
    Remember what happened 2 years ago when he bottled Napoli's chances of qualifying for the CL?

    Take the L.
 
 
 
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