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    (Original post by sunfowers01)
    Do u have to make your own resources or is it acceptable to look for them or download them?
    Varies between schools - some have a culture of sharing everything and teachers add resources to a shared area on the network, but in others everyone works very independently and does things their own way, including making or finding their own resources.

    Most people on my PGCE seem to have used shared resources from their department quite a bit during the first placement, but my school didn't do that so I had to make everything myself. I'm hoping my 2nd placement school will share more, as I don't know how I'm going to cope with the increased timetable if I'm making all my own resources...

    Nothing wrong with having a look for things online, just be critical (plenty of resources on TES have errors in them, or just won't be quite right for your class), adapt them to the needs of your class, and don't try to pass someone else's work off as your own.
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    (Original post by myrtille)
    Varies between schools - some have a culture of sharing everything and teachers add resources to a shared area on the network, but in others everyone works very independently and does things their own way, including making or finding their own resources.

    Most people on my PGCE seem to have used shared resources from their department quite a bit during the first placement, but my school didn't do that so I had to make everything myself. I'm hoping my 2nd placement school will share more, as I don't know how I'm going to cope with the increased timetable if I'm making all my own resources...

    Nothing wrong with having a look for things online, just be critical (plenty of resources on TES have errors in them, or just won't be quite right for your class), adapt them to the needs of your class, and don't try to pass someone else's work off as your own.
    Completely agree with this. It is best practice during your PGCE to make your own resources (it is also good to get into that routine). However adapting from online resources is absolutely fine and your mentor should not say otherwise really (maybe unless it is for an observed lesson, even then I'm not sure).

    It is always nice to have a school that has a bank of resources to use, although you should be making your own it is nice to have a safety net in-case you are particularly behind in a week (happens to everyone!). It is also very good practice if you contribute towards their resources. I left all of my plans and resources in the school system on my main placement just out of courtesy.
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    (Original post by Imelda)
    Do you have experience of a PGCE and can therefore compare your job to that of a trainee teacher? Or is it random speculation?


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    Yes im doing something similar to a PGCE, which is still teachers training. Are you trying to make a point? Ok here's a question for you are you doing a PGCE? and if yes have you worked in KFC?
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    My mentor left me with some pretty scathing remarks when I finished first placement on Friday...

    My "personal appearance" apparently wasn't up to scratch the whole time I was there - I was told to come in "comfortable clothes - tracksuit and trainers or jeans or something, just don't show too much flesh" - so I wore tracksuit bottoms as I was in a school where things often got very messy and I just don't have the money to be replacing jeans and smart trousers all the time. Also, in tracksuit bottoms, I can move around more easily so that I can be more involved with the activities - I wasn't just dressing like a tramp out of laziness, the clothes were always clean and never offensive or even too detailed. The whole time, not one single person told me anything about my attire, if they had I would have changed it.

    Now I'm really worried this is all going to go in my final report about my professionalism not being good enough :/


    There was other stuff too, literally the only positive she could give me was that my class teacher liked having me in the classroom... Hopefully I get a bit luckier in my next placement, I've just got to find it first :/
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    Starting second placement properly now, after our half term break, feeling surprisingly good about it actually... how is everyone holding up, and any good news on the jobs front?
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    (Original post by SuperSam_Fantastiche)
    My mentor left me with some pretty scathing remarks when I finished first placement on Friday...

    My "personal appearance" apparently wasn't up to scratch the whole time I was there - I was told to come in "comfortable clothes - tracksuit and trainers or jeans or something, just don't show too much flesh" - so I wore tracksuit bottoms as I was in a school where things often got very messy and I just don't have the money to be replacing jeans and smart trousers all the time. Also, in tracksuit bottoms, I can move around more easily so that I can be more involved with the activities - I wasn't just dressing like a tramp out of laziness, the clothes were always clean and never offensive or even too detailed. The whole time, not one single person told me anything about my attire, if they had I would have changed it.

    Now I'm really worried this is all going to go in my final report about my professionalism not being good enough :/


    There was other stuff too, literally the only positive she could give me was that my class teacher liked having me in the classroom... Hopefully I get a bit luckier in my next placement, I've just got to find it first :/
    What sort of a school were you in? Did other staff dress like that- I'm guessing they did? If so, then I'm not sure what planet your mentor was on.


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    (Original post by SuperSam_Fantastiche)
    My mentor left me with some pretty scathing remarks when I finished first placement on Friday...

    My "personal appearance" apparently wasn't up to scratch the whole time I was there - I was told to come in "comfortable clothes - tracksuit and trainers or jeans or something, just don't show too much flesh" - so I wore tracksuit bottoms as I was in a school where things often got very messy and I just don't have the money to be replacing jeans and smart trousers all the time. Also, in tracksuit bottoms, I can move around more easily so that I can be more involved with the activities - I wasn't just dressing like a tramp out of laziness, the clothes were always clean and never offensive or even too detailed. The whole time, not one single person told me anything about my attire, if they had I would have changed it.

    Now I'm really worried this is all going to go in my final report about my professionalism not being good enough :/


    There was other stuff too, literally the only positive she could give me was that my class teacher liked having me in the classroom... Hopefully I get a bit luckier in my next placement, I've just got to find it first :/
    it was my uni tutor who wrote my report and she even said that she didn't put some things from my mentor cos she didn't agree (not terrible things but not exactly good either!) so maybe it'll be like that for you?
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    (Original post by SuperSam_Fantastiche)
    My mentor left me with some pretty scathing remarks when I finished first placement on Friday...

    My "personal appearance" apparently wasn't up to scratch the whole time I was there - I was told to come in "comfortable clothes - tracksuit and trainers or jeans or something, just don't show too much flesh" - so I wore tracksuit bottoms as I was in a school where things often got very messy and I just don't have the money to be replacing jeans and smart trousers all the time. Also, in tracksuit bottoms, I can move around more easily so that I can be more involved with the activities - I wasn't just dressing like a tramp out of laziness, the clothes were always clean and never offensive or even too detailed. The whole time, not one single person told me anything about my attire, if they had I would have changed it.

    Now I'm really worried this is all going to go in my final report about my professionalism not being good enough :/
    What school was that? I've been in a fair share of schools including SEN schools and everyone has always worn smart clothes or prescribed uniform (unless perhaps you teach secondary P.E?) I teach nursery and get utterly filthy every day but I wouldn't dream of going into school in tracksuit. What was everyone else wearing? I do think it's rather mean to not tell you and then pick you up on it. It's something that could have been sorted on day 2, she can't really blame you for her lack of action!

    Usually the final report is all positive and they would just leave negative things off, like a reference. I would definitely be more careful about this in the future though as it is amongst the standards and you don't want something as silly as this stopping you from passing.

    If everyone else was wearing tracksuits then I would dispute this with my tutor, a friend of mine got unfair feedback from an awful school she was at and my mentor discarded those parts of it. If they weren't then I would use this is a lesson and look at what everyone else has on and wear similar things. The first day of placement it's always a good idea to a little smarter than usual to scope it out!
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    Had my first day at my 2nd placement school today. It's KS3-only, and I'm really looking forwards having a bit more freedom whereas in KS4 I was quite constrained by the GCSE requirementse. Today I've been given loads of choice to decide on topics, including films and cross-curricular projects links as opposed to the generic textbook topics. Very exciting!

    Regarding professional dress, our university told us to go in very smart (the sheet we were given states "jacket and tie for men, equivalent for women") and then relax a bit if it seems appropriate, once we've seen what everyone else is wearing. Today I wore a smart grey skirt, tights, heels, a smartish top and black blazer, but having seen what everyone else wears I'll revert to my school standard of black trousers with a jumper dress or top and cardigan.

    I've never seen teachers wear jeans or tracksuits though. I wouldn't wear anything expensive on a day-to-day basis, but you can get fairly smart boring trousers cheaply enough. Eg: http://www.peacocks.co.uk/womens/sho...tcut-5805.html I'd just get something like this if you're on a tight budget, and save your good clothes for interviews.
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    (Original post by balloon_parade)
    What school was that? I've been in a fair share of schools including SEN schools and everyone has always worn smart clothes or prescribed uniform (unless perhaps you teach secondary P.E?) I teach nursery and get utterly filthy every day but I wouldn't dream of going into school in tracksuit. What was everyone else wearing? I do think it's rather mean to not tell you and then pick you up on it. It's something that could have been sorted on day 2, she can't really blame you for her lack of action!

    Usually the final report is all positive and they would just leave negative things off, like a reference. I would definitely be more careful about this in the future though as it is amongst the standards and you don't want something as silly as this stopping you from passing.

    If everyone else was wearing tracksuits then I would dispute this with my tutor, a friend of mine got unfair feedback from an awful school she was at and my mentor discarded those parts of it. If they weren't then I would use this is a lesson and look at what everyone else has on and wear similar things. The first day of placement it's always a good idea to a little smarter than usual to scope it out!
    Hi,

    I dressed very smartly on the first day and was told to make sure I wore whatever was comfortable in future. That day my outfit (£40 worth of clothes) was ruined - I cannot afford £40 outfits every time something goes flying at work - so I looked around at other teachers and all were in a mixture of attire ranging from tracksuit bottoms to jeans to leggings to trousers - I asked the lady who showed me around the school if tracksuit and trainers would be okay and she said "yes, absolutely, just make sure you're comfortable and not showing too much skin" - naturally when I go to mainstream there will be less chance of my clothes getting knackered from flying non-washable liquids and I will be dressed smartly :p:
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    On a lighter note - is it me, or is this tragically ironic? xD
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    (Original post by SuperSam_Fantastiche)
    Hi,

    I dressed very smartly on the first day and was told to make sure I wore whatever was comfortable in future. That day my outfit (£40 worth of clothes) was ruined - I cannot afford £40 outfits every time something goes flying at work - so I looked around at other teachers and all were in a mixture of attire ranging from tracksuit bottoms to jeans to leggings to trousers - I asked the lady who showed me around the school if tracksuit and trainers would be okay and she said "yes, absolutely, just make sure you're comfortable and not showing too much skin" - naturally when I go to mainstream there will be less chance of my clothes getting knackered from flying non-washable liquids and I will be dressed smartly :p:
    Sounds like someone was on a massive power-trip then, how rude! I wouldn't worry much more about it, just mention it to your tutors and all should be well!
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    Week 2 at second placement - Cannot do anything right in lessons, tired, not enough hours in the day to get even half the paperwork done let alone the full lot, travelling taking 1 hour each way, moaned at if textbooks or powerpoints used at all in lessons......I'd love to be able to think I could get to the end of this course and get the qualification but It just is not going to happen.

    Why oh why am I still on this nightmare of a course?
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    (Original post by John Mullen)
    Week 2 at second placement - Cannot do anything right in lessons, tired, not enough hours in the day to get even half the paperwork done let alone the full lot, travelling taking 1 hour each way, moaned at if textbooks or powerpoints used at all in lessons......I'd love to be able to think I could get to the end of this course and get the qualification but It just is not going to happen.

    Why oh why am I still on this nightmare of a course?
    I know some schools do not like text books, and I am not a fan of text book heavy lessons, - but how on earth are you supposed to impart visual and written examples without either textbooks or powerpoint? Interpretive dance? Smoke Signals?! That sounds insane!
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    (Original post by smartarse1983)
    I know some schools do not like text books, and I am not a fan of text book heavy lessons, - but how on earth are you supposed to impart visual and written examples without either textbooks or powerpoint? Interpretive dance? Smoke Signals?! That sounds insane!
    Tell me about it! I think in their view, everything should be based around resources and worksheets and so on and lessons always must be all singing all dancing affairs. The teaching profession is in a sorry state.

    Your whole life gets taken over. On the PGCE, you are expected to spend up to 4 hours to plan a 1 hour lesson, and with 10 lessons a week that is 40 hours that need to be found from somewhere just for planning. People work that much in one week! On top of that is the actual lessons themselves, assignments, meetings, other course work, marking, feedback from teachers (takes a while sometimes), travelling to/from placement. Not enough hours in the day - This is why so many of us have this sense of it being literally impossible, and why the drop out rates are enormous.

    The government should actually be asking why these courses are at such a stupid level, and work to make it a lot easier workload-wise, rather than just pouring cash in to get more people to train in shortages.
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    (Original post by John Mullen)
    Your whole life gets taken over. On the PGCE, you are expected to spend up to 4 hours to plan a 1 hour lesson, and with 10 lessons a week that is 40 hours that need to be found from somewhere just for planning.
    You aren't expected to spend up to 4 hours to plan one lesson, especially not the unobserved lessons. You will learn that it simply isn't worth refining the resources into perfection, and more importantly you will learn that you cannot actually spend that long on planning when your teaching load increases. You'll end up tiring yourself out and that isn't good for yourself or for your lessons!
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    (Original post by tthwma)
    You aren't expected to spend up to 4 hours to plan one lesson, especially not the unobserved lessons. You will learn that it simply isn't worth refining the resources into perfection, and more importantly you will learn that you cannot actually spend that long on planning when your teaching load increases. You'll end up tiring yourself out and that isn't good for yourself or for your lessons!
    Yes, I know you cannot spend that long planning on a full teaching timetable - this is why I said "On the PGCE"! Im my view the workload is too big. I cannot spend that much time doing it - 5 hours teaching a week then yes, you can fit it in just about, but now knocked up to 10 hours a week it is impossible.

    And even if you did manage to work all hours god sends, and turn up and teach without falling to sleep, you still get the constant feedback reminding you of how much needs changing (not good enough) and different teachers expecting different things from you.
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    (Original post by John Mullen)
    Yes, I know you cannot spend that long planning on a full teaching timetable - this is why I said "On the PGCE"! Im my view the workload is too big. I cannot spend that much time doing it - 5 hours teaching a week then yes, you can fit it in just about, but now knocked up to 10 hours a week it is impossible.

    And even if you did manage to work all hours god sends, and turn up and teach without falling to sleep, you still get the constant feedback reminding you of how much needs changing (not good enough) and different teachers expecting different things from you.
    I know exactly what you are experiencing. I nearly quit the PGCE for exactly the reason you mentioned at the end. People giving me different feedback, different routines and some pretty unprofessional ways of giving feedback. But it will get better!

    But the 10 lessons * 4 hours prep time isn't right. Even on the PGCE you should not spend that long on a lesson, try to get it down to 2 hours max (even that is quite high). 10 lessons is not a lot even on a PGCE (many providers do 15 hours including my course), the workload is high to make it easier for you. If trainee teachers were given 5 lessons a week the transition to NQT would be much more difficult and there would be an even higher drop out rate. PGCE is a very difficult year, no one finds it easy (even if they give that impression), but the workload is there for a reason
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    (Original post by tthwma)
    I know exactly what you are experiencing. I nearly quit the PGCE for exactly the reason you mentioned at the end. People giving me different feedback, different routines and some pretty unprofessional ways of giving feedback. But it will get better!

    But the 10 lessons * 4 hours prep time isn't right. Even on the PGCE you should not spend that long on a lesson, try to get it down to 2 hours max (even that is quite high). 10 lessons is not a lot even on a PGCE (many providers do 15 hours including my course), the workload is high to make it easier for you. If trainee teachers were given 5 lessons a week the transition to NQT would be much more difficult and there would be an even higher drop out rate. PGCE is a very difficult year, no one finds it easy (even if they give that impression), but the workload is there for a reason
    I don't have enough hours to be able to get the planning done, let alone everything else, this on top of now disliking teaching altogether because I can't teach how I want to. It makes for a truly awful experience for people who really wanted to get in the profession, only to find that when they arrived, they were severely limited in the way they were told to teach, and are given an impossible workload for anyone who wants to sleep for more than 1 hour a night.
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    (Original post by John Mullen)
    I don't have enough hours to be able to get the planning done, let alone everything else, this on top of now disliking teaching altogether because I can't teach how I want to. It makes for a truly awful experience for people who really wanted to get in the profession, only to find that when they arrived, they were severely limited in the way they were told to teach, and are given an impossible workload for anyone who wants to sleep for more than 1 hour a night.
    I'd suggest talking to your tutor or mentor about how to plan more effectively to save yourself some time

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