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    (Original post by paddy357)
    Pro Milone. Enough said really.
    Its just that Cicero is really dull, I mean you would have thought a speech in a murder trial would be better and, you know, interesting.
    On the plus side the Latin itself is much easier to get to grips with than Vergil, but Vergil is interesting, and also I like doing Vergil because its better than the alternative, doing more Cicero
    Ha I had parents evening yesterday, my teacher actually suggested I could get an A! I think maybe he was high, he'd NEVER normally say anything like that. An A in Latin would be nice, but I'll be happy maintaining my B thank you very much.
    Paddy
    I wrote an answer to this the other day, but got logged out so it didn't post. Grr.
    Fair enough, if you're only reading the Pro Milone, it's not the most interesting of murder trials. I had a bit of the Pro Cluentio, all this stuff about Sassia marrying various people for their money and then murdering them, lots of fun. I also like the one about Sextus Roscius, it's so exciting. And there was a decent BBC dramatisation of it last year. Better than Rome any day.
    I don't actually like Vergil very much, I always sort of expect him to be like Homer and he just isn't. And I don't like Aeneas, so an entire epic poem about him gets a bit tedious. And of course there are all the issues about women in the Aeneid.
    I just want a B. Preferably now.
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    (Original post by Madelyn)
    I don't actually like Vergil very much, I always sort of expect him to be like Homer and he just isn't. And I don't like Aeneas, so an entire epic poem about him gets a bit tedious. And of course there are all the issues about women in the Aeneid.
    I just want a B. Preferably now.
    each to their own, and i suppose homer is better/different/superior to some extent... but it's great stuff nevertheless. definitely, for me, one of the best things in latin literature.

    since im in the aqa latin thread.. did anyone do (or currently do) catullus' poems? they keep popping up in my head, especially poem 85.
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    (Original post by Madelyn)
    I wrote an answer to this the other day, but got logged out so it didn't post. Grr.
    Fair enough, if you're only reading the Pro Milone, it's not the most interesting of murder trials. I had a bit of the Pro Cluentio, all this stuff about Sassia marrying various people for their money and then murdering them, lots of fun. I also like the one about Sextus Roscius, it's so exciting. And there was a decent BBC dramatisation of it last year. Better than Rome any day.
    I don't actually like Vergil very much, I always sort of expect him to be like Homer and he just isn't. And I don't like Aeneas, so an entire epic poem about him gets a bit tedious. And of course there are all the issues about women in the Aeneid.
    I just want a B. Preferably now.
    Me too, I don't wanna do the exam!! I'd rather sleep with the examiner :rolleyes:
    Well the Romans didn't exactly have a glowing regard of women in general did they? I'd imagine most roman literature didn't see them in a particularly good light, if at all. They only liked the women who did what they were told, all others were evil
    Well I only like the Aeneid in comparison to Cicero. I just find it really irritating how some authors around the time of Augustus (Vergil but especially Horace) kiss Augustus's ass all the time, some of it is just sickening! Horace practically had his lips glued to Augustus' rear :rolleyes:
    Latin literature in general just doesn't float my boat, which is why it is a good thing that A2 Latin on OCR is like 65% language :cool:
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    Hmm, I'm doing AQA Latin a level this year.
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    (Original post by silence)
    each to their own, and i suppose homer is better/different/superior to some extent... but it's great stuff nevertheless. definitely, for me, one of the best things in latin literature.

    since im in the aqa latin thread.. did anyone do (or currently do) catullus' poems? they keep popping up in my head, especially poem 85.
    OH I see you're doing Latin when you're in uni, how hard is it to do an A Level in uni (im thinking of taking one up next year)?
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    anyone still at GCSE, much of this is going over my head- just want to know if it is just me?
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    Ok, I'm spectacularly crap, it's taken me two months to reply to paddy357 (are there 356 other paddies wandering around? Are you all clones?).
    I don't mind doing exams so much, but I hate waiting for them. Well, actually I don't really like doing them either, but at least then you're actually doing something positive to contribute to your grades. I'm not sure about sleeping with the examiner, he'd probably be old and ugly, so I might prefer to do the exam. Plus it's probably safer, and more ethical, and so on.
    My particular problem with the presentation of women in the Aeneid (my god, I sound like an exam question...) is that the denigration is more subtle. I can deal with "women are evil whores trying to kill us all", but it's the subtle, invidious stuff that really annoys me. And I suppose we don't have to agree with Vergil's or Pliny's view of women, anyway.
    Cicero is fab.
    I think I prefer language to literature, but it's quite hard to separate them: if you think of the best things about Latin as a language, quite a lot of them (for me, at least) are "when Cicero does this..." kinds of things, which also sort of count as part of the literature. But two thirds of my course is literature, so I probably ought to get used to it.
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    (Original post by Madelyn)
    Ok, I'm spectacularly crap, it's taken me two months to reply to paddy357 (are there 356 other paddies wandering around? Are you all clones?).
    I don't mind doing exams so much, but I hate waiting for them. Well, actually I don't really like doing them either, but at least then you're actually doing something positive to contribute to your grades. I'm not sure about sleeping with the examiner, he'd probably be old and ugly, so I might prefer to do the exam. Plus it's probably safer, and more ethical, and so on.
    My particular problem with the presentation of women in the Aeneid (my god, I sound like an exam question...) is that the denigration is more subtle. I can deal with "women are evil whores trying to kill us all", but it's the subtle, invidious stuff that really annoys me. And I suppose we don't have to agree with Vergil's or Pliny's view of women, anyway.
    Cicero is fab.
    I think I prefer language to literature, but it's quite hard to separate them: if you think of the best things about Latin as a language, quite a lot of them (for me, at least) are "when Cicero does this..." kinds of things, which also sort of count as part of the literature. But two thirds of my course is literature, so I probably ought to get used to it.
    Don't worry about it, I haven't exactly replied to this immediatly either!
    Yeah I'm really not interested in the literature, I much prefer language, and as two thirds of my course is language I'm fine:cool: (although two thirds was literature last year in AS)
    I am having the hardest time with the literature this year, despite me no having to translate a passage of it, my teacher still insists on me having learned all the translations (and they're so dull). I can't wait til the exam is over, no more learning random useless translations (yay)!
    I'm toying with the idea of taking a module in Latin at uni, although seeing as I'm applying for Business-type degrees it might be a liiiiiiiiiiittle bit tricky
    Oh well at least I still find Latin interesting, it beats my Spanish lessons at the moment hands down (my spanish teachers are evil and want me to die:mad: )
    Anyhoodle hows UCAS-crap going for you? Any more offers?
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    can i join please... caciluius est coquus.
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    (Original post by Toscar)
    can i join please... caciluius est coquus.
    Don't be silly.

    Grumio est coquus.

    And, it's Caecilius, not caciluius!

    Caecilius est in horto
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    (Original post by Handy)
    Don't be silly.

    Grumio est coquus.

    And, it's Caecilius, not caciluius!

    Caecilius est in horto
    Those were the days. If only all Latin was that easy.
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    Eheu!

    We have advanced to such sentences as Caecilius in horto sedebat.

    ooo!

    ecce! anser sum
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    (Original post by Handy)
    Eheu!

    We have advanced to such sentences as Caecilius in horto sedebat.

    ooo!

    ecce! anser sum
    caudex...
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    furcifer!
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    (Original post by paddy357)
    Don't worry about it, I haven't exactly replied to this immediatly either!
    Yeah I'm really not interested in the literature, I much prefer language, and as two thirds of my course is language I'm fine:cool: (although two thirds was literature last year in AS)
    I am having the hardest time with the literature this year, despite me no having to translate a passage of it, my teacher still insists on me having learned all the translations (and they're so dull). I can't wait til the exam is over, no more learning random useless translations (yay)!
    I'm toying with the idea of taking a module in Latin at uni, although seeing as I'm applying for Business-type degrees it might be a liiiiiiiiiiittle bit tricky
    Oh well at least I still find Latin interesting, it beats my Spanish lessons at the moment hands down (my spanish teachers are evil and want me to die:mad: )
    Anyhoodle hows UCAS-crap going for you? Any more offers?
    Paddy
    I have done precisely no Latin since last June. So I probably don't deserve to be in this conversation any more, but sod it, you're stuck with me.
    Literature isn't so bad, I just don't like having to do it for exams - I read for my personal enjoyment, not to prove something to some examiner who doesn't care about me. Whereas because language is more...kind of impersonal, I don't mind so much about having to do exams on it. And now you think I'm a weirdo... And I'm only doing lit this year, so I probably ought to stop fussing and just get on with it.
    *sigh* teachers. I wish I still had some of those. My Latin teacher has now given up teaching entirely, though she has promised to mark any work I feel like doing. So I feel ever so slightly abandoned.
    *shudder* exams... I don't like that thought. Let's ignore it.
    UCAS is actually ok, though I've just had two interviews and I have to check Track every five minutes to see if they've replied yet. Which they haven't. But I now have two offers (yay!), and have heard at least something from everywhere I've applied, which is quite nice. How about you?

    Surely Metella est in horto? We always used to get really annoyed that Caecilius and Grumio had all these adventures while Metella just stood around looking pretty. I was in fact in a class full of feminists...
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    (Original post by Madelyn)
    Surely Metella est in horto? We always used to get really annoyed that Caecilius and Grumio had all these adventures while Metella just stood around looking pretty. I was in fact in a class full of feminists...
    No.

    Metella est in atrio.

    Caecilius, vero, est in tablino.
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    (Original post by Madelyn)
    I have done precisely no Latin since last June. So I probably don't deserve to be in this conversation any more, but sod it, you're stuck with me.
    Literature isn't so bad, I just don't like having to do it for exams - I read for my personal enjoyment, not to prove something to some examiner who doesn't care about me. Whereas because language is more...kind of impersonal, I don't mind so much about having to do exams on it. And now you think I'm a weirdo... And I'm only doing lit this year, so I probably ought to stop fussing and just get on with it.
    *sigh* teachers. I wish I still had some of those. My Latin teacher has now given up teaching entirely, though she has promised to mark any work I feel like doing. So I feel ever so slightly abandoned.
    *shudder* exams... I don't like that thought. Let's ignore it.
    UCAS is actually ok, though I've just had two interviews and I have to check Track every five minutes to see if they've replied yet. Which they haven't. But I now have two offers (yay!), and have heard at least something from everywhere I've applied, which is quite nice. How about you?

    Surely Metella est in horto? We always used to get really annoyed that Caecilius and Grumio had all these adventures while Metella just stood around looking pretty. I was in fact in a class full of feminists...
    Oh I understand you entirely, I really do hate reading for exams, it always ruins the literature Mind you, I'm not a big fan of lit exams anyway, it's all a bunch of crap to be honest (I mean how do we know Vergil put *that* word there for a purpose? maybe it was coincidence!!).
    Anyways thank God 2/3 of A2 Latin for me is language, I wouldn't cope otherwise, I mean I'm barely coping now!
    UCAS-wise I'm on the verge of a nervous breakdown, I've applied for a subject I don't want to do (International Business), and it's looking increasingy like I'm going to have to get AAA if I am to be able to transfer degrees (yup that's right an A in Latin *faints*). I'm seriously considering reapplying next year, as I really would like to go to UCL but they rejected me (cunstards:mad: ). I'm thinking Modern Languages (I only applied for Business with language because I was afraid I'd need other skills, but that was a tad silly).
    Actually Latin is one of my better subjects at the mo, I'm having problems with Spanish (my teachers are incompetent); it's sad that it's my favourite by default
    Anyways good luck with the rest of your UCAS-related nonsense, and with Latin
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    Man, I thought this originally said 'Latina' in the societies list. I was all up for joining a latina porn society too.

    How disappointing.
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    Catullus is pretty dirty sometimes :p:
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    (Original post by SpiralArchitect)
    How disappointing.
    You have no idea
 
 
 

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