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Reply 1

A guy I practically grew up with has schizophrenia and he has his good days and his bad. He is pretty good with his illness. At one stage the voices were telling him to push his mum down the stairs so he atmited himself to the psychiatric unit near him. He doesnt live a normal life (he has a million other illnesses too) but he's a funny,sweet and genuine guy.

Reply 2

Physics lover
hey..
how can we treat them? can we make them live better with a single personality.


well we can try & help people be better informed about the disorder.

no medical classification of schizophrenia I've seen includes multiple personality disorders as a symptom.

(off to try & find some decent online links..)

http://www.schizophrenia.com/family/sz.overview.htm doesn't seem too bad an overview.. :smile:

Reply 3

Physics lover
hey..
guyz.. what do u think of people who have Schizophrenia?
how can we treat them? can we make them live better with a single personality.


I don't think most cases of schizophrenia should be treated because I don't believe it's an illness/defect etc. I posted more extensively about this on the 'Mental Health Matters' thread but shall post the link I found again for your benefits. It's a very interesting read.

http://www.oxfordmuse.com/selfportrait/portrait4.htm

Reply 4

1) Top form Elles you beat me to it. multiple personalities are not a very schizophrenicy thing to have. When you see a shcizo patient talking to himself, he isn't talking to another personality, he is probably having auditory hallucinations that he is responding to, or he is simply saying every thought out loud.

2)Puppy, you keep quoting that same book over and over...Don't you think its time in the interests of non-bias to read another book?

3) Children with no family history of Schizophrenia have roughly 1% chance of developing it at some stage of their life
If they have a parent with schizophrenia it goes to 13%. If both parents have it it goes to 46%.
If one parent has it and they are adopted soon after birth by a non-schizophrenic family their odds of getting it are 11%.

Still think theres nothing biological going on puppy?

Reply 5

foolfarian
1) Top form Elles you beat me to it. multiple personalities are not a very schizophrenicy thing to have. When you see a shcizo patient talking to himself, he isn't talking to another personality, he is probably having auditory hallucinations that he is responding to, or he is simply saying every thought out loud.

2)Puppy, you keep quoting that same book over and over...Don't you think its time in the interests of non-bias to read another book?

3) Children with no family history of Schizophrenia have roughly 1% chance of developing it at some stage of their life
If they have a parent with schizophrenia it goes to 13%. If both parents have it it goes to 46%.
If one parent has it and they are adopted soon after birth by a non-schizophrenic family their odds of getting it are 11%.

Still think theres nothing biological going on puppy?



I never said there was nothing biological going on. I just don't think it's an especially helpful way to look at disorders because it suggests the disorders are a defect.

Look, ffs I'm not a ****ing ******. I've read plenty on this subject, these are my beliefs- is that ok with you? Why am I getting picked on simply because I don't think it's fair to drug people up because they're different?

I'm getting frustrated with this now because all people keep doing is quoting GCSE sociology and A-Level psychology at me. I know all this stuff already. My views are based on how I interpret all this information, the same as yours are. You choose to think that biology is the main cause of mental disorders, I don't.

Reply 6

high levels of dopamine activity are thought to be related to schizophrenia. I think its more biological than anything else.

Reply 7

sokas
high levels of dopamine activity are thought to be related to schizophrenia. I think its more biological than anything else.

high dopamine in the mesolimbic and mesocorticol areas of the brain yes :wink:

Reply 8

I've just been learning schizophrenia this morning for an Alevel, I think thats too much info to include though! :smile:

Reply 9

i knew a guy who had Schizophrenia, he was really really quiet for the 4 years i was a school with him, never spoke, he was incredibly clever and got full marks in every exam we had, we thought he was stupid as he sat at the back of the class starring at the wall.

Then we found out that he had beaten his dad almost to death with a dumbell and regularly had sex with prostitutes (he was 17 at this stage)

obviously he went off to a mental hospital. It totally freaked everyone for a month or two.

Reply 10

Somebody close to me has it but got it from smoking lots of cannabis and taking cocaine. Its being controlled now with drugs.

I visited the person in a special mental health place and met other people with it. They were fine, they werent scary or anything which I thought they would be. The manic depressives were quite hard to handle but the schizophrenics were the quiet and often deeply intelligent or gifted ones. One of them thought he was Jesus but he was one of the sweetest people Ive ever met.

Reply 11

There are different degrees of schizophrenia, though. The mild cases such as schizotypal can often be found in a large population. In extreme cases i think modern medicine just needs to keep plugging on to find more effective ways to deal with schizophrenia, as well as other mental disorders.

Reply 12

Vixen
Somebody close to me has it but got it from smoking lots of cannabis and taking cocaine. Its being controlled now with drugs.

I visited the person in a special mental health place and met other people with it. They were fine, they werent scary or anything which I thought they would be. The manic depressives were quite hard to handle but the schizophrenics were the quiet and often deeply intelligent or gifted ones. One of them thought he was Jesus but he was one of the sweetest people Ive ever met.

grandiose delusions :smile:
One of my patients is convinced that the police are watching her to make sure she doesn't tell the newspapaers that many years back doctors stole eggs from her wome and used them for IVF treatment for lady Diana.

Reply 13

Schizophrenia always reminds me of John Nash in A Beautiful Mind. :redface:
It was actually the movie that brought this disorder to my attention, and I must say the movie made me cry 5 times. :redface:

Reply 14

I interviewed a person with schizophrenia for a project, she was a very confused person, she couldnt realise what voices were real or fake. She even accused me and asked me if I was real and I said yes, and she said all the voices she hears say theyree real. She was understanding though, she knew she had schizophrenia and she thinks it was due to her being bullied in her childhood and the depression. I felt so sorry for her. Her husband left her cos she used to hit him in his sleep and told me her dead grandad told her to do it.

If anyone wants more information on schizophrenia and its symptoms, or on other similar personality disorders such as schizotypical and schizoid. Then pm me or tell me here, I'd be happy to provide information and support.

Reply 15

There are various forms of treatment avaliable, drug therapy being the most common and successful and theyre not being drugged up 'just because they are different', but to try and aleviate symptoms to stop them harming themselves or others so they can function in normal society.

As its been said, the 'Me, myself and Irene' multiple personality view of schizophrenia, is not an actual symptom, although there are a number or forms of Schizophrenia. As foolfarian said, the closest symtpom that comes to it is auditory halucinations (hearing voices).

Reply 16

In Schizophrenia there are positive and ngegative symptoms. The negative being a lack of something eg social withdrawl, loss of initiative. The positive suptoms are delusions (false beliefs), Hallucinations (voices etc) and thought disorder (disconnected thoughts). The name comes from greek for split mind not split personality, "schizo" = split, "phren"= mind.

Reply 17

eurasianfeline
Schizophrenia always reminds me of John Nash in A Beautiful Mind. :redface:
It was actually the movie that brought this disorder to my attention, and I must say the movie made me cry 5 times. :redface:

possibly one of the better depictions of schizophrenia out there i think

Reply 18

people who talk to themselves really freak me out. there was an old woman on the train the other day and she kept muttering to herself and nodding her head and stuff, and i was trying to work, argh she really pissed me off. people like that should be kept away from normal people for their own good. imagine if the voices told someone to run in front of a bus or whatever. it would ruin a lot of people's lives.

Reply 19

Lozza
people who talk to themselves really freak me out. there was an old woman on the train the other day and she kept muttering to herself and nodding her head and stuff, and i was trying to work, argh she really pissed me off. people like that should be kept away from normal people for their own good. imagine if the voices told someone to run in front of a bus or whatever. it would ruin a lot of people's lives.


a lot of times my mom talks to herself. it does kind of freak me out, and when i ask her, she doesn't answer me. i doubt it's really schizophrenia in her case, but usually i just try and ignore it.

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