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What are your current views on the national health service of this country? Should it be changed?
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Yes it is awful, i would propose changing it to more like the American model or the German one. (that is because it doesn't work as it is a hangover from a socialist government and decades of consensus politics)
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What are your current views on the national health service of this country? Should it be changed?
needs more money for more beds. reducing waiting times.
doctors need better hrs of work to give their 100%. too many complaints recently about the number of patients who are diagnosed incorrectly.
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What are your current views on the national health service of this country? Should it be changed?
The national health service is a very important part of the welfare state, providing health care to those who can/cannot afford it. However, I think the question is whether the privatisation of health care would still leave provision open to all, whilst resulting in everybody having to make less contribution to health care due to an ease in taxation. If provision was not to be open then one has to question the relative costs and benefits...is it more beneficial to have an efficient health system, which is restricted to less people or a crude nationalised system open to all...that is really a question of morals. However, the government's claim to be increasingly funding the NHS may well be relevant but, are such funds put to use to, for example, by training more nurses or does the bureaucracy suck them up?
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What are your current views on the national health service of this country? Should it be changed?
i think administration clerks should be paid a lot more...

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should the NHS be changed?? Bah! *spits* Should Tony Blair be shot?
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should the NHS be changed?? Bah! *spits* Should Tony Blair be shot?
not really . just shoot bush and we'll be alright.
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i think administration clerks should be paid a lot more...

lou xxx
what the penpushers? Course, have u seen the secretaries? They are basically the machinery that runs the NHS
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The national health service is a very important part of the welfare state, providing health care to those who can/cannot afford it. However, I think the question is whether the privatisation of health care would still leave provision open to all, whilst resulting in everybody having to make less contribution to health care due to an ease in taxation. If provision was not to be open then one has to question the relative costs and benefits...is it more beneficial to have an efficient health system, which is restricted to less people or a crude nationalised system open to all...that is really a question of morals. However, the government's claim to be increasingly funding the NHS may well be relevant but, are such funds put to use to, for example, by training more nurses or does the bureaucracy suck them up?
You also have to consider exogenous factors, which are contributing to the shambles that is the NHS...for example, as we all know, demographically, Britain has an aging population, which in general terms is bound to increase the strain on the NHS....how do counter act the fall in tax revenue (caused by retirment etc.) ; increases in pension provision and the stretching of the NHS through the requirement of more funds
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The national health service is a very important part of the welfare state,
It also depends on whether you agree with the welfare state. The beauracracy sucks the funds up, ie the billions they pumped in earlier this year. Oh yeah and there is gonna be even more trouble when the EU introduces their new law on maximum working hours, as doctors (especially trainee ones who shoulder a lot of the work) will be excluded as they work longer hours than will be permitted.
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what the penpushers? Course, have u seen the secretaries? They are basically the machinery that runs the NHS
i'm biased though... i'm an admin clerk (basic skivvy) at a surgery and i have no money.... yes i agree secretaries and receptionists are the backbone of the NHS, there is just so much paperwork flying around.

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It also depends on whether you agree with the welfare state. The beauracracy sucks the funds up, ie the billions they pumped in earlier this year. Oh yeah and there is gonna be even more trouble when the EU introduces their new law on maximum working hours, as doctors (especially trainee ones who shoulder a lot of the work) will be excluded as they work longer hours than will be permitted.
To be honest with you, the welfare state has become so interwined with the economy that it would be hard to get rid...whether you agree with it or not, it wouldn't make any difference...any how, all political parties support it including the BNP...so the welfare state is not really the reserve of leftists any longer
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what the penpushers? Course, have u seen the secretaries? They are basically the machinery that runs the NHS
Of course you have a member of your family that is an NHS secretary.
Everyone in the health service is of importance to its running.
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The NHS is a fundemental of the British economy. To remove it would be costly and potentially devastating.
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