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    I am desperately trying to put my bestfriend off getting a Nose Job. She is only 20 years old and her nose is fine!! But she feels that there is a certain slight bump on her nose, and wants to get it reshaped.

    I am worried. Are there huge risks to getting a nose job? (Do you keep having to get it redone just so problems can be fixed?) Should I, as her friend, just accept that she wants to get something changed that she is dissatisfied with, or should I advice her not to do it?

    I have always thought that cosmetic surgery was just something shallow people did, but now that my friend (who is really not like that) wants to get it done, I am starting to have to rethink.
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    Remind her that no one is perfect - everyone has faults, everyone has things they don't like about themselves.

    And once she gets the nose job, she will find something else she wants changing. She will never be happy with her body - no body is.

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    I'm not too familiar with it myself...but perhaps this article would help.

    She must also understand that there are risks with every surgery, and that even after a successful one, her nose would still not be "perfect". (bolded)

    Nasal Surgery (Rhinoplasty)

    Introduction:
    It is important that you understand that no nose is perfectly symmetrical. Every attempt will be made during surgery to minimize your side to side dissimilarities, but such differences always persist to some degree even with the most successful operation. it is unnatural for a nose to be exactly in the center of the face, before or after operation. the two nostrils are never exactly the same shape or size. The irregularities and asymmetries will persist after a corrective operation. The facts are being stressed a many patients are not aware of pre-operative nasal irregularities and may be more critical of their appearance following surgery than pre-operatively.

    Many patients have a fear that the nasal change will be as great as to create subject of discussion among family members and friends. Actually, following well done rhinoplasty, neither the patient nor the patient's friends and relatives usually remember the shape of the patients original nose a few weeks following surgery.

    The patient's input is always sought regarding the desired nasal change, but the patient must accept the judgment of the plastic surgeon as to the type, shape and contour of the nose as he or she is more acquainted with limitation imposed by the patient's tissues and facial features. A nose that is attractive on one face may very well be inappropriate for another. Since no two people are alike, a patient should not expect to "select a nose" by studying other people's noses or photographs but such input is helpful in giving the surgeon a general impression of the patient's desires.

    A surgeon must consider the patient's entire facial profile when planning nasal surgery. Patients with moderate sized noses but very weak chins will appear t have much larger noses than they actually have. in such cases, t is impossible to reduce the nose sufficiently to provide a satisfactory profile. Facial balance may only be achieved by simultaneous chin implant surgery. Additional ancillary procedures such as liposuction of the neck or a facelift may enhance the result of rhinoplasty even further by restoring facial harmony.
    Occasionally, if in addition to a weak chin, severe malpositioning of the jaw and teeth is present, an evaluation of the dental abnormalities by an oral surgeon will be recommended before making a final decision about the nasal surgery. Conversely, it may be occasionally be necessary to reduce the size of an excessively large chin in conjunction with the nasal surgery if the ideal profile is to be obtained for the patient.

    Surgical Procedure:
    The operation is performed using local anesthetics with intravenous medications or a general anesthetic to make you comfortable throughout the procedure. The anesthesiologist monitors all patients to ensure their safety and comfort.
    Most of the incisions for reducing or recontouring the external nose are made inside the nose. Occasionally, an incision will be made across the base of the columella, the strut between the two nostrils. Rarely incisions may be required at the base of the nostrils if they are to be narrowed. The skin is lifted away from the cartilage and bone and the excess tissue is removed. Instead of resenting tissue, it may be necessary to put grafts into depressed areas t reshape the nose satisfactorily. Such grafts may be taken from the septum. Or a silicone rubber implant may be discussed as an option to using your own cartilage.

    The nasal tip cartilage will be refined and the nose shortened if necessary. The excess skin left by the reduction of the underlying bone and cartilage is elastic and readapts itself to the new framework.
    An important aspect to the predictability of a desired result is the thickness of the patient's skin; thick skin will not drape out as well post-operatively over new framework as will thinner skin. Conversely, while minor irregularities of the cartilage or bone can be expected to be hidden by thicker skin, they may become clearly visible in the thin-skinned individual.

    The operation is approximately one and a half hours.

    Post-Operative Care: Immediately after surgery a conforming plaster splint is applied to the nose. The patient must place ice packs over the eyes for the first two days to reduce swelling and minor discomfort. Suitable pain medication and sleeping pills will be dispensed. The nasal protective splint is removed by your surgeon on the third post-operative visit approximately five to seven days after the operation. The majority of patients do not require nasal packing.

    The patient will have the feeling of a minor cold from one to twelve weeks after the surgery due to the attendant congestion of the nasal passageways. Patients undergoing correction of an impaired airway will feel a definite improvement but cannot expect air to flow as well through he reconstructed airway as through an open mouth.

    The eyelids will be discolored and swollen for a period of approximately five to seven days. residual bruising may be covered with cosmetics. the office staff will assist you if this is requested. Occasionally the whites of the eyes will become temporarily bloodshot which may last for several weeks but always resolves spontaneously.

    The upper lip may feel stiff and unnatural for a varied period of time. Some numbness may be noted in the upper lip and over the tip of the nose for a period of up to six months.

    Although the major effect of the nasal operation will be evident is two weeks, minor improvements continue to occur over a period of six to twelve months. These later changes are so gradual that the patient may not even be aware of them.

    The final outcome depends upon the age of the patient, the type of skin and the patient's healing ability. The older the patient and the thicker the nasal skin, the longer the residual swelling will remain. In such cases it will be more difficult to achieve a thin, chiseled nasal appearance.
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    There are risks to any surgery but if she is so unhappy that she has decided to go with surgery maybe you should support her. Everyone says my nose is fine but I hate it. I've been saving since I was 16 and have a special account for the money, I've nearly reached my target and will start looking for surgeons.
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    how much does it cost?
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    (Original post by eurasianfeline)
    I'm not too familiar with it myself...but perhaps this article would help.

    She must also understand that there are risks with every surgery, and that even after a successful one, her nose would still not be "perfect". (bolded)
    Thanks Eurasianfeline! Some useful info on there. The thing is, this girl is actually one of the preetiest girls I know. But I guess once you start becoming conscious about something on your face, its hard for others to try to convince you otherwise. I have the same problem with my teeth. My problem is not even that noticible, but the fact that it gets to me alone is enough to make me want to pay up to £3000 just to get it fixed! That is one of the reasons why she gets annoyed when I tell her not to get it done, because I am also prepared to pay thousands for a minor thing. But the two procedures (braces-nose job) are hardly comparable. One is something that most of us end up needing, and luckily getting done at a younger age, and the other is permenately changing a part of your body..which can lead to greater side effects!
    Do you know of anyone who has had this surgery..and how has it affected them?
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    (Original post by Nina166)
    Thanks Eurasianfeline! Some useful info on there. The thing is, this girl is actually one of the preetiest girls I know. But I guess once you start becoming conscious about something on your face, its hard for others to try to convince you otherwise. I have the same problem with my teeth. My problem is not even that noticible, but the fact that it gets to me alone is enough to make me want to pay up to £3000 just to get it fixed! That is one of the reasons why she gets annoyed when I tell her not to get it done, because I am also prepared to pay thousands for a minor thing. But the two procedures (braces-nose job) are hardly comparable. One is something that most of us end up needing, and luckily getting done at a younger age, and the other is permenately changing a part of your body..which can lead to greater side effects!
    Do you know of anyone who has had this surgery..and how has it affected them?
    np. but erm. if you really want to put her off...this is going to sound stupid...but just say:

    MICHAEL JACKSON. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by eurasianfeline)
    np. but erm. if you really want to put her off...this is going to sound stupid...but just say:

    MICHAEL JACKSON. :rolleyes:
    He, he he Thing is, what about all the other stars she will start mentioning...Halle berry(!), Janet Jackson and all these other stars..I cant believeso many of them get it done. Personally I never really thought someone's nose could change their appearance, I always thought it was the least important feature on the face..but now that so many people are complainin about it..even I've started to remark on other people's noses!! I hate it... but sometimes just can't help it when its the main topic of concversation with some of my friends!
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    I happen to know someone who got it done at the age of 17, and to be quite honest she looks much better than used to. I think it has made her feel better of herself and boosted her confidence.

    And so, obviously I'm seeing this from a different perspective, but if this would really help her in life then maybe its ok.

    I do not share the same view foor boob jobs or stuff like that. In the case of the nose job, I do not think it would escalate further.
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    (Original post by iwait4u)
    I happen to know someone who got it done at the age of 17, and to be quite honest she looks much better than used to. I think it has made her feel better of herself and boosted her confidence.

    And so, obviously I'm seeing this from a different perspective, but if this would really help her in life then maybe its ok.

    I do not share the same view foor boob jobs or stuff like that. In the case of the nose job, I do not think it would escalate further.
    So after having had it done, does she have any problems with it? Can you get on with your life as usual or are there long term risks involved?
    I think I am starting to feel that maybe instead of advising her against it..I should support her through it. I know she WILL get it done despite what I say, but I guess it would be better to make sure she got it done safely and with a good surgeon than just to leave her to it alone. She doesn't want to tell anyone except me, and I guess that makes me feel more of a responsibility in making sure she does it right.

    How much does it cost anyhow?
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    one of my best friends is having it done in about two weeks... i tried to persuade her not to, but without success hopefully she'll be alright then

    EDIT: i forgot to say she's 17 - which is i think too young for a thing like this
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    (Original post by Ugly Bob)
    She will never be happy with her body - no body is.
    Not totally on topic but I wanted to disagree with that! I think quite a lot of people are happy with their body, though I'm sure they don't have perfect bodies. Happiness comes from accepting who and what you are and just being happy for that imo. If nothing else you can think about how it could be worse.
    [I guess that is quite relevant actually.]
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    (Original post by lessthanthree)
    What you have to be aware of is that the results aren't perfect all the time, and she mustn't start going down that slippery slope of "oh, just a bit more here, just a bit more, one more, another one.."
    that's probably why michael jackson ended up with his face now. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Nina166)
    So after having had it done, does she have any problems with it? Can you get on with your life as usual or are there long term risks involved?
    I think I am starting to feel that maybe instead of advising her against it..I should support her through it. I know she WILL get it done despite what I say, but I guess it would be better to make sure she got it done safely and with a good surgeon than just to leave her to it alone. She doesn't want to tell anyone except me, and I guess that makes me feel more of a responsibility in making sure she does it right.

    How much does it cost anyhow?
    Why on earth would you want to put her off in the first place? If she is unhappy about it she should get it done. It probably bothers her more than you will ever realise. People who opt for plastic surgery are usually greatly distressed by what they think needs fixing.

    I am getting it done this summer. It costs between £3000 and £4000. However I am looking into going to somewhere such as South Africa to get it done where the care is even better than here but its about half the price.
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    (Original post by Chickadee)
    Why on earth would you want to put her off in the first place? If she is unhappy about it she should get it done. It probably bothers her more than you will ever realise. People who opt for plastic surgery are usually greatly distressed by what they think needs fixing.

    I am getting it done this summer. It costs between £3000 and £4000. However I am looking into going to somewhere such as South Africa to get it done where the care is even better than here but its about half the price.
    but neither should we encourage her to undergo a surgery simply becuase she's not completely satisfied with her looks. no one is born perfect and everyone would have those little dissatifaction, but unless it's something that really affects her life, ie. trauma after accident, i would disagree with plastic surgeries.

    many people these days think of PS as something that can be used to make them into gorgeous-looking people you see on TV, and often they have the first operation, becomes satisfied for a while, and then start noticing other "imperfections" and are tempted to tweak those as well. many people abuse PS these days, and there are many tragic incidents when an attempt to "perfect" herself turns disastrous.
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    (Original post by Chickadee)
    Why on earth would you want to put her off in the first place? If she is unhappy about it she should get it done. It probably bothers her more than you will ever realise. People who opt for plastic surgery are usually greatly distressed by what they think needs fixing.

    I am getting it done this summer. It costs between £3000 and £4000. However I am looking into going to somewhere such as South Africa to get it done where the care is even better than here but its about half the price.
    I was only trying to put her off because I simply do not think she needs it...she is so beautiful already ( but of course what goes on in one persons own mind is quite different) And also the fact is that there are risks involved with such operations and unless she forks out a lot of money to get treated by the best surgeons around, these risks could be even greater. She is at university at the moment and I jsut did not think it was appropirate that she spend so much on something that was really not that big of deal. But chattin to people on here, and just from my own experiences, when you feel that something needs to be changed, I guess it will keep bugging you until you change it.
    I just feel like because I am the only person she is asking advice from, I have to try to be as helpful as I can I guess.
    So you really getting it in South Africa..good luck. But even though it's half price there, wont the charges of accomodation, tickets, work out to about the same price anyways?
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    (Original post by Nina166)
    So after having had it done, does she have any problems with it? Can you get on with your life as usual or are there long term risks involved?
    I think I am starting to feel that maybe instead of advising her against it..I should support her through it. I know she WILL get it done despite what I say, but I guess it would be better to make sure she got it done safely and with a good surgeon than just to leave her to it alone. She doesn't want to tell anyone except me, and I guess that makes me feel more of a responsibility in making sure she does it right.

    How much does it cost anyhow?
    The person in question never talks about it and keeps it secret, but everyone knows she got it done. Last year she had a really hunched nose. This year on the other hand its thin and flat.

    Therefore I cannot say whether or not there are any long term effects, but she doesnt seem to be suffering or anything. There are no scars or anything.

    Of course if your friend does get it done, make sure she does it with a profesional (and not go for the cheap option u sometimes see "go to poland for rhinoplasty" - as mentioned on "plastic surgery from hell").
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    Through my own experience I have to say this....
    If you arent self confident and dont like the way you look, them realisticly if you dont change whats going on in your head firstm then those thoughts will stay with you, no matter how much you improve.
    I was fixated on my nose, and I hated it with a passion. I caved in to the pressure of wanting to look good, and had surgery. Il admit, it looks a hell of a lot better, so I am happy with that. However, it still didnt change what I felt inside, so all that happened is I became fixated on a different part of my body, as if that was the new thing stopping me from looking perfect. It just becomes a never ending cycle.
    Im out of it now thankfully though
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    Through my own experience I have to say this....
    If you arent self confident and dont like the way you look, them realisticly if you dont change whats going on in your head firstm then those thoughts will stay with you, no matter how much you improve.
    I was fixated on my nose, and I hated it with a passion. I caved in to the pressure of wanting to look good, and had surgery. Il admit, it looks a hell of a lot better, so I am happy with that. However, it still didnt change what I felt inside, so all that happened is I became fixated on a different part of my body, as if that was the new thing stopping me from looking perfect. It just becomes a never ending cycle.
    Im out of it now thankfully though
    See that's what I am scared will happen to my mate. But she is quite a confident person, and it is only her nose that is getting to her...so I dont know. Well done to you for getting out of that cycle, I understand how hard it is for most people..most epople in general become fixated on one part of their body anyway and I guess once you head for the surgical route, changing that part seems like the easy way out.

    BTW, where did you get it done, and how much for, if you dont mind my asking. And do you think it is a problem that she wants to hide from her parents and everyone around her, or do you think i should tell her to at least confide in her someone else to get a different perspective? Also, it will be hard to find somewhere to stay other than uni and her parents house so that no one finds out. I unfortunately live my parents so she cant stay with me. Maybe sh'll rent out a room 4 two weeks or something. Anyways, I hope I am doing an okay job in being there for her about this so far!
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    (Original post by Nina166)
    I was only trying to put her off because I simply do not think she needs it...she is so beautiful already ( but of course what goes on in one persons own mind is quite different) And also the fact is that there are risks involved with such operations and unless she forks out a lot of money to get treated by the best surgeons around, these risks could be even greater. She is at university at the moment and I jsut did not think it was appropirate that she spend so much on something that was really not that big of deal. But chattin to people on here, and just from my own experiences, when you feel that something needs to be changed, I guess it will keep bugging you until you change it.
    I just feel like because I am the only person she is asking advice from, I have to try to be as helpful as I can I guess.
    So you really getting it in South Africa..good luck. But even though it's half price there, wont the charges of accomodation, tickets, work out to about the same price anyways?
    It would just be the price of flights. You get the surgery done then they transfer you to their 'plastic surgery hotel' where they have their own private beach. You can recover and get looked after here and you can go and sunbathe because you are with a bunch of other people that have had surgery.

    I'm also looking into France, Portugal, Spain and America.
 
 
 
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