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Is first year law at uni easy or hard?

just wondering as I am going to do first year of my law degree is it easy or hard and could you give me any tips to stay on track and make most of my time in my first year.:yep:
Me too. My lectures are going to be 12 hours a week, how many hours should you ideally (or will have to) do at home on top of that?
Reply 2
It's easy.

but don't miss anything like a presentation, no matter how many credits you have, they may make you resit the year. >.<
Reply 3
It's as hard as you make it. Tips (in no particular order): Read 'Getting Things Done' by Dave Allen. This book is a lifesaver when it comes to organisation and planning - you will have a lot of independent study time and you're thrown into the deep end. Take at least one day off a week and work Monday-Friday with regular hours. Attend all lectures/tutorials. Prepare for at least 5 hours a tutorial - and speak up. Go into revision mode in February. Use your tutors: they will have contact hours. Although you need to read important cases in full, you can just read a summary for most of them.
TerryTerry
It's as hard as you make it. Tips (in no particular order): Read 'Getting Things Done' by Dave Allen. This book is a lifesaver when it comes to organisation and planning - you will have a lot of independent study time and you're thrown into the deep end. Take at least one day off a week and work Monday-Friday with regular hours. Attend all lectures/tutorials. Prepare for at least 5 hours a tutorial - and speak up. Go into revision mode in February. Use your tutors: they will have contact hours. Although you need to read important cases in full, you can just read a summary for most of them.


So if a person has lectures for 12 hours a week, how many hours should that person ideally do at home on top to have a good chance at a 2:1?
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Eleanor of Aquitaine
So if a person has lectures for 12 hours a week, how many hours should that person ideally do at home on top to have a good chance at a 2:1?


How long is a piece of string?

The recommended minimum number of hours at most unis is 40 a week. But it's not about the number, rather how efficiently you work.

From my experience, I recommend you get a good night's sleep when you can and setting a bedtime for yourself (e.g. 12pm) so you don't stay up at all hours and feel tired the next day. And try to work consistently in the weekdays - say 9-5 and an hour or so in the evening. Many successful people do it differently though.
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Setting a time before you go to uni wont really work. I found it impossible to work set 9-3 on days when i'd set it aside because something would come up. You need to be flexible in uni to maintain a social life and friends to not be 'that law loser whos always revising'. Just keep that in mind.
My uni recommends 30% lecture contact to 70% private study. So that means if you have a 2 hour lecture and an hour seminar for a module per week then 7 hours prep time for that single module. No one does that really do just do as much as you need to.
I didn't really do any work in my first year. Like 1hours prep for each supervision, I had 2 a week. And a couple of hours per essay, I usually had one a week. Managed to scrape a 2:1. But I definitely don't recommend it: not having a proper knowledge of tort has been a pain for research tasks on the LPC and may have made the difference between getting a first and not in the final year.

It is definitely about the quality of the work you do more than the hours. The time you take is very very personal. I reckon 2 hours of QUALITY work per subject per week would actually be sufficient. Ensure that your understanding is good, and that you quickly learn how to take a critical look at things. Read articles. And, most importantly, try out different textbooks - don't be a wally and just buy what it says on the reading list. No way do you have to do anything even approaching the time that you would need to spend working in a job.
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jacketpotato
I didn't really do any work in my first year. Like 1hours prep for each supervision, I had 2 a week. And a couple of hours per essay, I usually had one a week. Managed to scrape a 2:1. But I definitely don't recommend it: not having a proper knowledge of tort has been a pain for research tasks on the LPC and may have made the difference between getting a first and not in the final year.

It is definitely about the quality of the work you do more than the hours. The time you take is very very personal. I reckon 2 hours of QUALITY work per subject per week would actually be sufficient. Ensure that your understanding is good, and that you quickly learn how to take a critical look at things. Read articles. And, most importantly, try out different textbooks - don't be a wally and just buy what it says on the reading list. No way do you have to do anything even approaching the time that you would need to spend working in a job.


It's refreshing to hear someone saying that you don't need to spend 45-50 hours per week to allow yourself to understand the subject and to get a good mark. I was quite clearly told by my tutors that I should treat studying law as a full time job - 9am to 5pm everyday and so on. I heard similar things from other law students as well. 2 hours of quality work sounds like a distant cry from what I was told by the tutors, although I guess they wouldn't risk telling me I don't actually need to work as hard :smile: What do you suggest doing in those 2 hours, so that it counts as a quality work? I would imagine it would have to be reading relevant chapters of a few textbooks, followed by the most important cases and plenty of journals to understand the different academic views. Reading cases, above all, can take very long, so I was wondering how do you actually differentiate between those that you need and need not to know?
I generally don't read cases, except in fairly unusual circumstances.

You will know how to differentiate between what you need and what you don't. You should already know what a case is about and what was decided before you even start reading, because you will have already read a textbook or two. You read the cases that you recognise as being particularly important or ones you think you could do with more detail on.

By the way that is 2hours per subject per week - so 4 subjects, 8hours of QUALITY focused work is enough to coast. Though obviously more is needed at exam time. And 8hours of quality work will probably take you longer than 8hours!
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I used to find that with additional reading it was a case of assessing the time/benefit of any particular piece of research. How long will it take me to read this document and what will I get out of it? Generally, textbooks and journal articles will give you a pretty high rate of "return" knowledge-wise on your reading time. Cases, on the other hand, offer a poor rate of return - they take a long time to read (esp first instance cases because of their long recitation of the facts) and will rarely give you any additional nuggets of information or understanding over and above your textbooks. To the extent you do glean anything from them, it probably won't have been worth the time it has taken.

Your approach should be - how much time do I have available for this reading/research? With that in mind, what can I read which will give me the greatest return on that limited amount of time?

That said, reading cases (and extracting relevant information) is a skill which is worth developing. Clearly that is the case if you want to join the Bar. Also, if you fancy a spot of litigation as a solicitor. However, chose the cases you read VERY carefully.
londonboym
It's easy.


Maybe at your uni.

In my experience, Law is ******* hard. You really have to keep on top all year round, or you're screwed.
Reply 13
chalks
I used to find that with additional reading it was a case of assessing the time/benefit of any particular piece of research. How long will it take me to read this document and what will I get out of it? Generally, textbooks and journal articles will give you a pretty high rate of "return" knowledge-wise on your reading time. Cases, on the other hand, offer a poor rate of return - they take a long time to read (esp first instance cases because of their long recitation of the facts) and will rarely give you any additional nuggets of information or understanding over and above your textbooks. To the extent you do glean anything from them, it probably won't have been worth the time it has taken.

Your approach should be - how much time do I have available for this reading/research? With that in mind, what can I read which will give me the greatest return on that limited amount of time?

That said, reading cases (and extracting relevant information) is a skill which is worth developing. Clearly that is the case if you want to join the Bar. Also, if you fancy a spot of litigation as a solicitor. However, chose the cases you read VERY carefully.


jacketpotato
I generally don't read cases, except in fairly unusual circumstances.

You will know how to differentiate between what you need and what you don't. You should already know what a case is about and what was decided before you even start reading, because you will have already read a textbook or two. You read the cases that you recognise as being particularly important or ones you think you could do with more detail on.


Thank you both for your response.

It's at times like these that I realise how useful and helpful can TSR actually be :yep: I read many books on legal skills and on how one should approach the study of law, however, all of them generally tended to put forward completely different points of view and advise things that seem to not really be an effective way of studying.

For example, McBride advises approaching a topic by taking an A4 sheet and setting out many questions that spring to mind, and that's before doing any reading. He then advises to answer those questions in writing and to add to the notes as you go along. However, I find this to be rather weird. I, for one, think that I will stick to my core reading list as a bare minimum to start with, and then refer to anything additional that I can locate in terms of recent developments, articles and etc.

I see your point in terms of reading cases, as, after having read quite a few of them for my course at Birkbeck, I have noticed they take much more time than anyone on a tight schedule would want to commit. I am not hoping to go to university and only do the bare minimum to get through, however, at the same time I would really like to have a life on the side and try to enjoy the three years of being a student. I would nevertheless like to prepare a timetable for myself, one where I could possibly work 10-4 pm, including lectures and tutorials, every day Monday to Friday, and allow some time for extra reading during the weekend. I also hope to do some useful work during the holidays and, although I might not be able to stick to the same timetable then, I would like to be able to study at least for 3 or so hours a day, especially when it comes to my first winter holidays, as after these I will do another term and sit my first exams.

I do not have particularly high hopes of coming out with a 1st, however, I would like to give it my best shot. I know it won't be easy, but at the same time I am aware of the fact that it might actually be more enjoyable than my current job, where I work 7pm until 6am for four nights a week :smile: I finished my law course at Birkbeck, where I came out with 83% overall, and I hope that I can keep up the standards at Oxford. Of course, I am aware that it might be 10 times harder, but I will give it a go :smile:

P.S. jacketpotato, I never got to thank you for you advice on EU law essay. I got 86% for that, the only comment being ' a very sound piece of work indeed' :smile:
Law loser? Dude really? How many people were in your lecture theatre? 4? 2? There are over 400 people who will even notice you!
Everyone is different and have various levels of re calling information. Always read your notes at least 3 times and keep up with the lectures, get into a good group to bounce of each other as this is a good learning curve.... Best degree, doors open wider for those with Lw under your belt, even if you don't do law at the end. I do about 5-10 hours a week... ;-) Good Luck
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