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Hello guys and lady body builders,
I've been trainning for 6 weeks now; 5 days + 1 light exercising day + 1 rest day per week. My arms are solid but it takes too long for my muscle tissue to repair because:
1) I take no muscle suppliments
2) My diet is kinda crap
Which protein stuff can i take?
The reason why i never used them before because i heard stories that creatine fills your arms with water...i dont want watery muscle, i want pure muscle so i got good power in my punches and harder arms n pecs. Which protein stuff has 0% side effects and is easily consumable that i can take? I'm thinking of protein bars [like a snicker bar
], are these any good?
Thanks for any advice, with these protein shakes/bars i can do 4 days trainning per week instead of the amount im doing now as it is fairy not efficient.
Nas
I've been trainning for 6 weeks now; 5 days + 1 light exercising day + 1 rest day per week. My arms are solid but it takes too long for my muscle tissue to repair because:
1) I take no muscle suppliments
2) My diet is kinda crap
Which protein stuff can i take?
The reason why i never used them before because i heard stories that creatine fills your arms with water...i dont want watery muscle, i want pure muscle so i got good power in my punches and harder arms n pecs. Which protein stuff has 0% side effects and is easily consumable that i can take? I'm thinking of protein bars [like a snicker bar
], are these any good?Thanks for any advice, with these protein shakes/bars i can do 4 days trainning per week instead of the amount im doing now as it is fairy not efficient.
Nas
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nas7232
I've been trainning for 6 weeks now; 5 days + 1 light exercising day + 1 rest day per week. My arms are solid but it takes too long for my muscle tissue to repair because:
1) I take no muscle suppliments
2) My diet is kinda crap
Which protein stuff can i take?
The reason why i never used them before because i heard stories that creatine fills your arms with water...i dont want watery muscle, i want pure muscle so i got good power in my punches and harder arms n pecs. Which protein stuff has 0% side effects and is easily consumable that i can take? I'm thinking of protein bars [like a snicker bar], are these any good?
Thanks for any advice, with these protein shakes/bars i can do 4 days trainning per week instead of the amount im doing now as it is fairy not efficient.
Nas
I've been trainning for 6 weeks now; 5 days + 1 light exercising day + 1 rest day per week. My arms are solid but it takes too long for my muscle tissue to repair because:
1) I take no muscle suppliments
2) My diet is kinda crap
Which protein stuff can i take?
The reason why i never used them before because i heard stories that creatine fills your arms with water...i dont want watery muscle, i want pure muscle so i got good power in my punches and harder arms n pecs. Which protein stuff has 0% side effects and is easily consumable that i can take? I'm thinking of protein bars [like a snicker bar
], are these any good?Thanks for any advice, with these protein shakes/bars i can do 4 days trainning per week instead of the amount im doing now as it is fairy not efficient.
Nas
Umm, have you x-ray vision? can you see your muscle cannot repair? anyway, training 5 days a week is pointless imo. Oh, and your muscle isn't 'repairing' because of overtraining and a **** diet, nothing to do with supplements. Supplements supplement your diet, take 400£ worth a week, doesn't mean you'll grow more. "Musle supplements" do not equate to size. Good diet, training and rest equate to size.
I suggest you read up on creatine;
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-creatine.asp
Again, the amount of supplements does not mean you can train for a given amount of time, they SUPPLEMENT your diet, they ain't magic pills or steroids (which are still not magic pills
).As for a protein SUPPLEMENT, i recommend unflavoured; myprotein.co.uk or wheyconsortium.co.uk - mixes well and tastes a bit milky, cheap too.
nas7232
2) My diet is kinda crap
Which protein stuff can i take?
2) My diet is kinda crap
Which protein stuff can i take?
how about fish, meat, milk, eggs? you admit your diet is **** dude, so as the the other dude said, wtf are supplements gonna do? If you dont want to change your diet then dont, but then dont spend your money on supplements
i do it because im fairly short, it builds my confidence. It's not that my muscle dont repair, it repairs slower. Seems like people think im a newbie lol. My diet isn't ****, it just isn't perfect comparing to other body builders i know. All i want is to build up on my confidence a little that's all and i feel muscle suppliments will help me get bigger. As i said about creating "iheard stories" so i came on here to find out the truth.. ok/
rock_tenth
how about fish, meat, milk, eggs? you admit your diet is **** dude, so as the the other dude said, wtf are supplements gonna do? If you dont want to change your diet then dont, but then dont spend your money on supplements
who said i don't want to change my diet dude.
people are kinda rude on this forum towards newby people lol, i saw newton make a thread before and people were kinda rude. Look, when you began trainning you probably didn't know that much, as i said i've only been trainning for 6 weeks and i bulked up fairly well in that time, i train hard and all i want to do is get bigger with some help.
Thanks for any good advice, hope that didn't seem rude of what i said above, but come on guys - go easy on people.
nas7232
i do it because im fairly short, it builds my confidence. It's not that my muscle dont repair, it repairs slower. Seems like people think im a newbie lol. My diet isn't ****, it just isn't perfect comparing to other body builders i know. All i want is to build up on my confidence a little that's all and i feel muscle suppliments will help me get bigger. As i said about creating "iheard stories" so i came on here to find out the truth.. ok/
you said youve been training 6 weeks, that sounds n00b to me dude
What is your diet at the moment? How do you train?
--Joe
nas7232
who said i don't want to change my diet dude.l
dunno, but it wasnt me if thats what you mean
nas7232
i do it because im fairly short, it builds my confidence. It's not that my muscle dont repair, it repairs slower. Seems like people think im a newbie lol. My diet isn't ****, it just isn't perfect comparing to other body builders i know. All i want is to build up on my confidence a little that's all and i feel muscle suppliments will help me get bigger. As i said about creating "iheard stories" so i came on here to find out the truth.. ok/
Again, how do you know it repairs slower because you dont take supplements?
you feel wrong i'm afraid, supplements do just that, supplement, they aint like miracle gro.
lol, i never said they were. I'm guessing my muscles don't repair much...
anyways, muscle suppliments will help me cause i have a relatively low protein diet and i train hard. My friend who has been a body builder for 4 years said they helped him. So can you guys give me some of advice of a good diet and suitable suppliments? I have the dedication, just a bit clueless as i'm relatively new to bulking up. Remember when you guys first started out...
anyways, muscle suppliments will help me cause i have a relatively low protein diet and i train hard. My friend who has been a body builder for 4 years said they helped him. So can you guys give me some of advice of a good diet and suitable suppliments? I have the dedication, just a bit clueless as i'm relatively new to bulking up. Remember when you guys first started out...
rock_tenth
you said youve been training 6 weeks, that sounds n00b to me dude
What is your diet at the moment? How do you train?
--Joe
What is your diet at the moment? How do you train?
--Joe
ok then, forget it. What's the point calling someone a noob?
Didn't think tsr was like that, with people starting for no reason... i ask my friend for advice.
laterz
nas7232
lol, i never said they were. I'm guessing my muscles don't repair much...
anyways, muscle suppliments will help me cause i have a relatively low protein diet and i train hard. My friend who has been a body builder for 4 years said they helped him. So can you guys give me some of advice of a good diet and suitable suppliments? I have the dedication, just a bit clueless as i'm relatively new to bulking up. Remember when you guys first started out...
anyways, muscle suppliments will help me cause i have a relatively low protein diet and i train hard. My friend who has been a body builder for 4 years said they helped him. So can you guys give me some of advice of a good diet and suitable suppliments? I have the dedication, just a bit clueless as i'm relatively new to bulking up. Remember when you guys first started out...
tell us your current diet and training dude
nas7232
ok then, forget it. What's the point calling someone a noob?
Didn't think tsr was like that, with people starting for no reason... i ask my friend for advice.
laterz
Didn't think tsr was like that, with people starting for no reason... i ask my friend for advice.
laterz
"I've been trainning for 6 weeks now"
"Seems like people think im a newbie lol." - taken to mean, "..but im not"
I then said that I think you are, considering the time youve been training. Simple as that, didnt mean for it to be offensive
--Joe
"is it for improvement at a specific sport, or for one of those "look how muscly i am" competitions?"
What right do you have to critisise someone for wanting to improve himself. I have been reading these bb threads and an great amount of ignorance is being shown.
The best advice I can offer is get more rest, get a simple routine over 3 or 4 days depending on what you can manage, and don't over train, short intense workouts are better than spedning 3 hours in the gym per day doing 50 exercies, you need to give your body time to recover, supplements are just that they are suppliments to your diet thats it. What you need is to eat every two to three hours small/medium meals each time and more listen to yourself you've been training 5 weeks and your expecting the world already, its a slow process and it doesnt happen overnight.
The only supps you may need are a basic protein powder, both the links already provided are a good place to get what you need, don't waste your money on bars, and take the protein as soon as you wake up and your body will need the protein after not eating over night, having it with water will mean it is absorbed quicker by your body, it would take longer to absorb if you take it with milk. Also take one after a work out as that is when your muscles will need most nourishment. You may want to have another shake during the day if you don't have time for a proper meal in between a busy schedule.
Creatine can also work with some people
"The reason why i never used them before because i heard stories that creatine fills your arms with water...i dont want watery muscle, i want pure muscle so i got good power in my punches and harder arms n pecs"
Mate from that I'm taking it that you havn't read up properly on creatine, with creatine the water is absorbed into the muscle cells but the effect of this will be harder, fuller muscles.
There is no need for any more supps until you were at a high level aprt from maybe vitamin and mineral thing which you may choose to take. Do not waste your money only anything else for a quick result there is no need. Drink water too you should be aiming for 3-5 litres of water per day at least, you need to keep your body hydrated, hydrations levels can effect strength levels, being dehyrated will have a negative effect on strength levels.
Your stable diet could consists any of the following:
Protein:
Steak, Chicken, Tuna, Salmon, Nuts, Milk, Cottage Cheese, Eggs
Carbs:
Rice, Pasta, Wholemeal bread, Oats
Don't forget your fruit and veg too!
The amount of protein you should be aiming for is 2-4g of protein per kg bodyweight and for carbs approx 4g per kg bodyweight
hope this helps, anymore q's you want answering don't hesitate to pm me.
What right do you have to critisise someone for wanting to improve himself. I have been reading these bb threads and an great amount of ignorance is being shown.
The best advice I can offer is get more rest, get a simple routine over 3 or 4 days depending on what you can manage, and don't over train, short intense workouts are better than spedning 3 hours in the gym per day doing 50 exercies, you need to give your body time to recover, supplements are just that they are suppliments to your diet thats it. What you need is to eat every two to three hours small/medium meals each time and more listen to yourself you've been training 5 weeks and your expecting the world already, its a slow process and it doesnt happen overnight.
The only supps you may need are a basic protein powder, both the links already provided are a good place to get what you need, don't waste your money on bars, and take the protein as soon as you wake up and your body will need the protein after not eating over night, having it with water will mean it is absorbed quicker by your body, it would take longer to absorb if you take it with milk. Also take one after a work out as that is when your muscles will need most nourishment. You may want to have another shake during the day if you don't have time for a proper meal in between a busy schedule.
Creatine can also work with some people
"The reason why i never used them before because i heard stories that creatine fills your arms with water...i dont want watery muscle, i want pure muscle so i got good power in my punches and harder arms n pecs"
Mate from that I'm taking it that you havn't read up properly on creatine, with creatine the water is absorbed into the muscle cells but the effect of this will be harder, fuller muscles.
There is no need for any more supps until you were at a high level aprt from maybe vitamin and mineral thing which you may choose to take. Do not waste your money only anything else for a quick result there is no need. Drink water too you should be aiming for 3-5 litres of water per day at least, you need to keep your body hydrated, hydrations levels can effect strength levels, being dehyrated will have a negative effect on strength levels.
Your stable diet could consists any of the following:
Protein:
Steak, Chicken, Tuna, Salmon, Nuts, Milk, Cottage Cheese, Eggs
Carbs:
Rice, Pasta, Wholemeal bread, Oats
Don't forget your fruit and veg too!
The amount of protein you should be aiming for is 2-4g of protein per kg bodyweight and for carbs approx 4g per kg bodyweight
hope this helps, anymore q's you want answering don't hesitate to pm me.
Although i said i was gone, i was lurking around a bit lol, thanks JSB19 i understand now. I'll get my diet sorted and train appropriately throughout my life [i'm not one of those who does 6 weeks of trainning and then stops and thinks the muscle will be there for life lol], i read up a lil more on google on the suppliments and i'll sort my diet out. Thanks for the advice.
Only rock_tenth was being rude, the moderator was pretty nice in the way he sorted rock_tenth's attitude out.
Nice1
Nas
Only rock_tenth was being rude, the moderator was pretty nice in the way he sorted rock_tenth's attitude out.
Nice1
Nas
So what he does exercise 5 times a week, it could be different muscle groups for all you know so you're assuming he is overtraining. Anyway, with the supplements, yes creatine does make your body store more water in your muscles, the link given is good.
If you want to increase your protein intake, and you're doing that schedule, then you want maybe 1.5g per pound of bodyweight, eg. if you weigh 160lb you want 240g a day to make sure that you have enough to grow.
the protein bars are good for after the gym. You should be consuming the protein maybe 30-40 minutes before a workout or straight after I think, so the protein bar will be good to eat when you've finished. although I think they're more expensive.
make sure you don't work out the same muscles too regularly if you want to do it 4 times a week, try to group muscles eg. legs, chest/shoulders, things that go together in compound exercises like benchpress.
If you want to increase your protein intake, and you're doing that schedule, then you want maybe 1.5g per pound of bodyweight, eg. if you weigh 160lb you want 240g a day to make sure that you have enough to grow.
the protein bars are good for after the gym. You should be consuming the protein maybe 30-40 minutes before a workout or straight after I think, so the protein bar will be good to eat when you've finished. although I think they're more expensive.
make sure you don't work out the same muscles too regularly if you want to do it 4 times a week, try to group muscles eg. legs, chest/shoulders, things that go together in compound exercises like benchpress.
nas7232
Only rock_tenth was being rude, the moderator was pretty nice in the way he sorted rock_tenth's attitude out.
Nice1
Nas
Only rock_tenth was being rude, the moderator was pretty nice in the way he sorted rock_tenth's attitude out.
Nice1
Nas
Please quote and explain what you found rude. If its "n00b" then see post #13
--Joe
mik1w
the protein bars are good for after the gym. You should be consuming the protein maybe 30-40 minutes before a workout or straight after I think, so the protein bar will be good to eat when you've finished. although I think they're more expensive.
the protein bars are good for after the gym. You should be consuming the protein maybe 30-40 minutes before a workout or straight after I think, so the protein bar will be good to eat when you've finished. although I think they're more expensive.
a liquid protein/carb source is usually recommended over a solid one for post-workout dude, for faster digestion and absorption
say tomorrow I am working out chest, shoulers, triceps. How many actual exercises do I need to do for each muscle group. For example, for my chest flat bench, incline bench and the pek dek. Is that ok?
Shoulders: Shoulder press, [also benchpress I count as 1], Lateral raises
Triceps: Tricep pull down, kickbacks, and this other one i dont know how to describe
So is 3 for each muscle ok? I do 3-4 sets of 8
Doing it once a week for this muscle group [3 day split]
also, if i weigh 144lbs and i take 100-150g protein a day does it mean i wont grow cos it aint enough?
Shoulders: Shoulder press, [also benchpress I count as 1], Lateral raises
Triceps: Tricep pull down, kickbacks, and this other one i dont know how to describe
So is 3 for each muscle ok? I do 3-4 sets of 8
Doing it once a week for this muscle group [3 day split]
also, if i weigh 144lbs and i take 100-150g protein a day does it mean i wont grow cos it aint enough?
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