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UCL vs Oxford
Hi
is the UCL as competitive as Oxford for international students?
I'm applying for PPE at oxford and european studies at UCL
thanks
stephane
is the UCL as competitive as Oxford for international students?
I'm applying for PPE at oxford and european studies at UCL
thanks
stephane
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Reply 1
Stephane Roux
Hi
is the UCL as competitive as Oxford for international students?
I'm applying for PPE at oxford and european studies at UCL
thanks
stephane
is the UCL as competitive as Oxford for international students?
I'm applying for PPE at oxford and european studies at UCL
thanks
stephane
PPE is one of the most famous and well respected courses at Oxford, and will be much harder to get into than European Studies at UCL. Good Luck!
Reply 2
You may get a biased response in the UCL forum... though many will have applied to Oxbridge colleges themselves and failed to get in.
Reply 3
EmersonDrain
You may get a biased response in the UCL forum... though many will have applied to Oxbridge colleges themselves and failed to get in.
UCL = Oxbridge rejects!
:cape:
Reply 4
River Hippo
UCL = Oxbridge rejects!
:cape:
UCL = Oxbridge rejects!
:cape:
And Oxbridge is for the terminally insecure who need sheltered accommodation
We can both make up bogus insults
Reply 5
ShinyShiny
And Oxbridge is for the terminally insecure who need sheltered accommodation
We can both make up bogus insults
We can both make up bogus insults
Some insults have more truth in them than others
Reply 6
River Hippo
Some insults have more truth in them than others
Some insults have more truth in them than others
But this is is a ridiculous comparison, PPE is a harder course then European studies so of course will be harder to get into.
But like course for like course UCL is better.
Reply 7
ShinyShiny
But this is is a ridiculous comparison, PPE is a harder course then European studies so of course will be harder to get into.
But like course for like course UCL is better.
But like course for like course UCL is better.
I agree you can't compare the courses, but as far as I'm aware Oxford don't offer European Studies. What course are you comparing it to? Whatever it is I seriously doubt UCL is better
Reply 8
15
Oxford is lovely 
Reply 9
River Hippo
I agree you can't compare the courses, but as far as I'm aware Oxford don't offer European Studies. What course are you comparing it to? Whatever it is I seriously doubt UCL is better
law, medicine, neurscience, possibly psychology, pharmacology, social sciences etc
Reply 10
River Hippo
UCL = Oxbridge rejects!
:cape:
UCL = Oxbridge rejects!
:cape:
What? I've got loads of super-intelligent friends who simply wanted to go to London rather than Oxford as they saw it as a more exciting place. UCL is just so different from Oxford I don't think that there would be many people who'd been rejected from Ox. Durham on the other hand is almost identical to Oxford: collegiate system, rowing, rahs, etc. - that's more of an Oxbridge reject uni.
Reply 11
Lol
Every other university = Oxbridge rejects!
Damn it must feel good to be going to oxbridge....
Every other university = Oxbridge rejects!
Damn it must feel good to be going to oxbridge....
Reply 12
Now thats just stupid
Reply 13
Stephane Roux
Hi
is the UCL as competitive as Oxford for international students?
I'm applying for PPE at oxford and european studies at UCL
thanks
stephane
is the UCL as competitive as Oxford for international students?
I'm applying for PPE at oxford and european studies at UCL
thanks
stephane
I would say UCL has more applicants per person and an equal level of academic excellence.
Surely though, SPS (now called PPS) at Cambridge is are more viable option to go with ESPS at UCL? Given though, they are both A*AA
Although me being Pro UCL does seem a bit paradoxical to the University I'm going to
Reply 14
ShinyShiny
law, medicine, neurscience, possibly psychology, pharmacology, social sciences etc
I'll give you medicine and a couple related to it, but thats a very small proportion of courses, and not at all related to the OP.
Reply 15
River Hippo
I'll give you medicine and a couple related to it, but thats a very small proportion of courses, and not at all related to the OP.
I never said they were related but humanities and languages at UCL are easily the equal of Oxford.
Reply 16
093
What? I've got loads of super-intelligent friends who simply wanted to go to London rather than Oxford as they saw it as a more exciting place. UCL is just so different from Oxford I don't think that there would be many people who'd been rejected from Ox. Durham on the other hand is almost identical to Oxford: collegiate system, rowing, rahs, etc. - that's more of an Oxbridge reject uni.
A lot of Oxbridge applicants apply to UCL because UCL is certainly one of the best unis in the country, and sure there are people who will choose London, but the vast majority don't. Just looking at the offers to places ratio will show you that.
I hope you realise I'm just teasing
Reply 17
ShinyShiny
I never said they were related but humanities and languages at UCL are easily the equal of Oxford.
We'll agree to disagree on that one
Reply 18
River Hippo
We'll agree to disagree on that one
Ok
, but I think the real distinguishing factor is the lifestyle. Oxford is smaller, the community more enclosed and you are more sheltered - if you prefer that to a huge city then go to oxford.Reply 19
- ESPS is very competitive
- I know of at least 2 people this year who declined Oxbridge offers to do it
- ESPS is not very much like SPS at all; it's more like PPE though it's not that much like that either (SPS - Politics, Psychology and Sociology; PPE - Politics, Philosophy and Economics; ESPS - Politics, History, Philosophy, International Relations and Law, and various [other] later specialisms. And a language, which entails some literature/culture as well.)
- I'd also love to know by what standard PPE per se is harder than ESPS. I don't imagine juggling 6 different disciplines at undergraduate level is particularly easy. Though you might say the Oxbridge workload is just greater in general?
- This particular course has a very high proportion of international students, I don't know if it makes much difference
- Comparatively - UCL will use the TSA and a not-necessarily-horribly-taxing interview (though I was asked a fair few difficult questions, my Cambridge interviews were conspicuously harder). Oxford will use the Oxford TSA (I think for PPE) and quite a few very taxing interviews. Whether this indicates a difference in the difficulty of "getting in" I don't think one can say
And finally:
- Good luck.
- I know of at least 2 people this year who declined Oxbridge offers to do it
- ESPS is not very much like SPS at all; it's more like PPE though it's not that much like that either (SPS - Politics, Psychology and Sociology; PPE - Politics, Philosophy and Economics; ESPS - Politics, History, Philosophy, International Relations and Law, and various [other] later specialisms. And a language, which entails some literature/culture as well.)
- I'd also love to know by what standard PPE per se is harder than ESPS. I don't imagine juggling 6 different disciplines at undergraduate level is particularly easy. Though you might say the Oxbridge workload is just greater in general?
- This particular course has a very high proportion of international students, I don't know if it makes much difference
- Comparatively - UCL will use the TSA and a not-necessarily-horribly-taxing interview (though I was asked a fair few difficult questions, my Cambridge interviews were conspicuously harder). Oxford will use the Oxford TSA (I think for PPE) and quite a few very taxing interviews. Whether this indicates a difference in the difficulty of "getting in" I don't think one can say
And finally:
- Good luck.
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