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    (Original post by Jamie)
    I take home 2 grand a month at 1B banding with no nights.
    that equals circa 24 grand a year (after tax).

    Christ, people are really ****ing gullible.
    I make more as a crappy juniour doctor (well, i rule as a doctor, but hey, am still a 4month old nhs employee) than many sisters of 15+ years experience do.
    Meh, I admit my sources aren't the most reliable in the world - they were quoting ~20.5K for a junior doctor and 19K for a newly qualified nurse. I'm assuming this is without any banding at all, or just totally made up. But that and all the discussion on here made me realise just how much things are changing and made F1 year seem very menial.
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    (Original post by Helenia)
    Meh, I admit my sources aren't the most reliable in the world - they were quoting ~20.5K for a junior doctor and 19K for a newly qualified nurse. I'm assuming this is without any banding at all, or just totally made up. But that and all the discussion on here made me realise just how much things are changing and made F1 year seem very menial.
    IIRC - basic F1 salary is about 21K or so then most posts have a banding on top.

    Thanks a lot for the info Jamie, thats the estimate i'm roughly working to as its what i've been told by other F1s give or take.
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    Wikipedia says:

    The average starting salary for a medical graduate is £32,086 [1]. In the first year of training a junior doctor earns a base salary of £20,741, rising to £25,882 in the second year. This base is increased 20% to 80% by bonuses based on working more than 40 hours a week, work load, and anti-social hours. A graduate starting specialist training will earn between £29,000 and £44,000.[2]
    is 32k after tax or before? if it's after. .than it's hell of a lot
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    is 32k after tax or before? if it's after. .than it's hell of a lot
    this has changed in recent years. in the past, you received more for working long hours/nights. now as you don't work these hours, you also aren't paid for them. also wages listed are always before tax....
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    (Original post by Jamie)
    I make more as a crappy juniour doctor (well, i rule as a doctor, but hey, am still a 4month old nhs employee) than many sisters of 15+ years experience do.
    Modest too. :rofl:

    Whilst I agree the wages aren't bad - the only thing is that working contracted 48 hours a week the hourly rate is not fantastic often equating to that of many other graduates etc..
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    (Original post by Helenia)
    Meh, I admit my sources aren't the most reliable in the world - they were quoting ~20.5K for a junior doctor and 19K for a newly qualified nurse. I'm assuming this is without any banding at all, or just totally made up. But that and all the discussion on here made me realise just how much things are changing and made F1 year seem very menial.
    the 19k for nurses includes the 'overtime' (they are nomally only contracted for about 40hrs a week and make up the rest working 'bank shifts'

    The f1s get 21k plus banding of 40%-100%.
    Most get 21k +40 or 50%. very few get more or less than this.

    so after tax - i take home 2k a month. plus im lucky enough to not be paying for my accomodation (the one thing that may change)
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    How much do nurses get for working half the hours and half the responsibility of a junior?
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    (Original post by Renal)
    How much do nurses get for working half the hours and half the responsibility of a junior?
    "and half the responsibility of a junior?"
    Neither legally nor morally is this in any way true.
    everytime a nurse opts to 'not bother a doctor' she is making a clinical judgement for which she is responsible. Everytime she gives a medication, takes obs, arranges follow ups.
    A good nurse is worth two good FY1s.
    Great value for money.
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    I used to think Jamie was a just a cynic/whiner (sorry :p:), but you are actually reasonable and realistic and an asset here dude.

    Just thought I'd say.
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    You missed a bit Jamie, it reads;
    (Original post by Jamie)
    "and half the responsibility of a junior? "
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    Garrggghhh! I hate exams! You could write all I know about paeds on the back of a ELBW baby! DOOMED!
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    (Original post by Philosoraptor)
    I used to think Jamie was a just a cynic/whiner (sorry :p:), but you are actually reasonable and realistic and an asset here dude.

    Just thought I'd say.
    Am stilla cynic and a whiner! Don't think that will ever change!
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    Bright Star - "interviews aren't about your scientific knowledge, so unless you've been spouting bull in your ps too, they're not going to ask you questions about science"

    Just wanted to reply to this (in view that the orig thread is closed).
    Some interviews - in particular most of those at oxbridge have two parts. In the case of my old college and alot of other cambridge colleges two entirely seperate interviews.
    One academic where you ARE asked sciencey stuff. And one non-academic.
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    (Original post by Jamie)
    Bright Star - "interviews aren't about your scientific knowledge, so unless you've been spouting bull in your ps too, they're not going to ask you questions about science"

    Just wanted to reply to this (in view that the orig thread is closed).
    Some interviews - in particular most of those at oxbridge have two parts. In the case of my old college and alot of other cambridge colleges two entirely seperate interviews.
    One academic where you ARE asked sciencey stuff. And one non-academic.
    god can't yout just leave it. you missed a bit

    (Original post by bright star)
    i understand that other places conduct interviews differently to this
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    (Original post by Jamie)
    Bright Star - "interviews aren't about your scientific knowledge, so unless you've been spouting bull in your ps too, they're not going to ask you questions about science"

    Just wanted to reply to this (in view that the orig thread is closed).
    Some interviews - in particular most of those at oxbridge have two parts. In the case of my old college and alot of other cambridge colleges two entirely seperate interviews.
    One academic where you ARE asked sciencey stuff. And one non-academic.
    The 'non-subject-specific' interview is apparently going to still possess an academic element to it. I'm sort of expecting both interviews to be academically oriented.
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    So this is my day tomorrow:

    8:30 - 9:30 = Renal biopsy meeting
    9:30 - 11:00 = Ward Round
    11:00 - 12:00 = Haematology teaching
    13:00 - 14:00 = Renal teaching
    14:00 - 16:00 = Clerking new renal patients
    16:00 - 17:00 = Radiology teaching
    17:30 - 19:00 = Present a renal case to my year and discuss
    19:00 - 21:00 = Spanish lesson (30 mins away) Exam

    What the **** am i doing on here?
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    (Original post by Sarky)
    So this is my day tomorrow:

    8:30 - 9:30 = Renal biopsy meeting
    9:30 - 11:00 = Ward Round
    11:00 - 12:00 = Haematology teaching
    13:00 - 14:00 = Renal teaching
    14:00 - 16:00 = Clerking new renal patients
    16:00 - 17:00 = Radiology teaching
    17:30 - 19:00 = Present a renal case to my year and discuss
    19:00 - 21:00 = Spanish lesson (30 mins away) Exam

    What the **** am i doing on here?
    sweet jesus, good luck with that!!
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    (Original post by Sarky)
    So this is my day tomorrow:

    8:30 - 9:30 = Renal biopsy meeting
    9:30 - 11:00 = Ward Round
    11:00 - 12:00 = Haematology teaching
    13:00 - 14:00 = Renal teaching
    14:00 - 16:00 = Clerking new renal patients
    16:00 - 17:00 = Radiology teaching
    17:30 - 19:00 = Present a renal case to my year and discuss
    19:00 - 21:00 = Spanish lesson (30 mins away) Exam

    What the **** am i doing on here?
    You have a lunch hour!
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    (Original post by Renal)
    You have a lunch hour!
    haha that's what I thought

    Though to be fair my day today consists of:

    13:00 - 16:00 Community drugs team
    16:00 - 18:00 Access Surgery

    ...so i can't really comment :p:
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    (Original post by j00ni)
    haha that's what I thought

    Though to be fair my day today consists of:

    13:00 - 16:00 Community drugs team
    ditto!!
    except for me this involves sipping coffee (to try to stay awake), eating biscuits and musing upon drug addicts. Actually today someone's going to come in and talk to us, even easier!

    i assume you do something more constructive?
 
 
 
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