(Original post by bright star)
just leave. trolling is against the rules. if you don't want to hear what we have to say, why are you posting in our thread.
Are you really that dumb now? So whenever someone disagrees with you, their posts are considered as trolling.. ermm.. right!
For the record, I'm posting here because one of your 'holy' Med Soc thread's respected members quoted me, so why should I not be argueing my point?
Elles, the former example I gave was regarding the attitude of some doctors and was not related to the need to know your anatomy. Of course, most of it is the NHS's problem.
I've done 3 months of work experience in a hospital in Romania and it's amazing how even though the technology and funds available are a lot lower, the overall job and effectiveness is a lot better and the diagnosis are assigned more accurately. Maybe it's just my opinion but when I did my shadowing in the UK and it's currently ongoing, countless tests are made on the patient and even then, the wrong diagnosis is selected and time is unecessarily wasted.
I put this down to medical education and a not so carry attitude towards the patient and their needs, as well as lack of enough experience before receiving the qualification and being allowed to practice.
Seriously, not being able to recognize TB after countless tests and time spent in the hospital is irresponsible, no matter how old the disease is is OK?? Why was it discarded?? Lower down your arrogance and stop trying to cover up for other doctors, whoever said that the doctor who couldn't fix a diagnosis should not be blamed nor apologize. Indeed, apologies are pointless in such a situation and it may not be completely the doctor's fault, but the education's rather yet your point of view is flawed.
The style of medicine teaching is what differs from the two countries, and why do you think Oxford and Cambridge won't switch to the PBL style from the traditional teaching style with lectures, basic learning and only then clinical work? Because PBL is crap! You need a basis to build up from, not mix everything together and hopefully something will stick, together with 80% of private study from the student's part. Understanding through lectures and proper teaching is required to make a good doctor. Anyway, that's another field of discussion.
No need to pick on the 100% anatomy knowledge fact now; I've only used it as an analogy to illustrate the naive training of doctors in the UK but it's not the actual students' fault, and unfortunately as most of you who can't even agree to part of what I said, have nothing to compare it to. You've only seen what you were taught in your local hospital.
The clever ones often write in the Student BMJ about education in different countries and about the differences. There was an article about medical education in China in... June's edition (maybe) regarding the longer hours and heavier study requirements. I'm sure the students there, like in Romania are more open minded and with their feet on the ground than those of you who can't stand someone walking into your little med soc thread.