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The maths module MT1002

Hey guys,

I'm looking to take this module next year in semester 1. Problem is, as far as I can tell, the lectures are at at 9AM EVERY FREAKIN DAY. It'll be like school :grumble:

Does anyone have any experience with this module?
How similar is it to AH maths?
Is it possible to do well whilst missing a fair few of the lectures (whilst attending all the tutorials and labs)?

Thanks in advance!

Reply 1

placenta medicae talpae

Can't answer any specifics at all - sorry.
But I just thought I'd post to say that my name's Iain and I'm thinking of maths at the University of St. Andrews!

Reply 2

trixiebell

5

I did it, and yes the 9 0'clock starts killed me (spesh after tuesday bop...).
I missed a good few of those lectures and still did well in the exam.
Most of it I had done at a-level (though it was mainly from my further maths a-level), but alot of my friends had only done a-level and they still found it simple enough (and yes they missed lectures too, lol)

Reply 3

fn_101

10

Stealing the thread a bit, but does anyone know what the MT1001 maths module is like? I got an A at A2 in Maths, but have forgotten it all and struggled to get that A, so a bit hesitant about taking the MT1002 module....

Reply 4

la_banane_verte

16

fn_101

Stealing the thread a bit, but does anyone know what the MT1001 maths module is like? I got an A at A2 in Maths, but have forgotten it all and struggled to get that A, so a bit hesitant about taking the MT1002 module....

I think MT1001 is very very basic. I haven't done it, but I'm pretty sure it's just a rehash of A-level. The module description is here if that helps : http://www-maths.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/ug/sub1/MT1001.shtml

Re. 9am starts: I'm absolutely awful at getting up so early, but if you're a scientist you're going to have to get used to it (if you're an arts student then you're lucky!). I never missed lectures, but had a bad habit of turning up about half an hour late because the lecture theatre had so many boards that the notes would still be there and I could copy them down. I don't know what's offered at AH, but if you've done an equivalent to further maths a-level you might get away with missing some lectures, but if you haven't I think you'll struggle as there is a fair bit of stuff there that's not covered at AH.

Reply 5

Meteorshower

14

I've had a look at past papers for the module and most of it seems fairly manageablewith my AH knowledge. I have to take it though which kinda sucks :p:

Reply 6

Iain.

OP

Thanks for the responses guys. I suppose on the plus side having to be up for 9am will mean I won't miss my hall's breakfast. And as far as I can tell the maths building isn't very far from uni hall at all.

But still. Harumph.

Reply 7

ImperceptibleNinja

13

You're well located in Uni Hall :smile:

It's not so bad. I think your breakfast runs for 8-9 anyway, so just hope that they feed you the cute little potato smiley faces, and all's well :wink:

MT1002 is incredibly similar to AH Maths. Hyperbolic functions, tests of convergence and L'Hopital's rule were the only things I didn't know IIRC, and although I would advise you go to as many lectures as you can, I know that plenty of people get very good grades in the module by doing otherwise and relying on their previous knowledge.

It is silly that MT1002 is compulsory, IMO. Far too much of it is revision for a lot of people.

BUT, AWESOME NEWS, Dr Bell teaches it! :woo:

Dr Bell is lovely, brilliant, fantastic, and only teaches sub-honours, so make the most of it :biggrin:

Reply 8

Meteorshower

14

If the lecturer is great, I feel a lot better about (what feels to me) wasting 20 credits :p:

Reply 9

la_banane_verte

16

Meteorshower

If the lecturer is great, I feel a lot better about (what feels to me) wasting 20 credits :p:

You can look at it as getting 20 credits for free instead :p:

Reply 10

M_E_X

14

Iain.

Hey guys,

I'm looking to take this module next year in semester 1. Problem is, as far as I can tell, the lectures are at at 9AM EVERY FREAKIN DAY. It'll be like school :grumble:

Does anyone have any experience with this module?
How similar is it to AH maths?
Is it possible to do well whilst missing a fair few of the lectures (whilst attending all the tutorials and labs)?

Thanks in advance!

MT1002 course content is basic A-level / AH maths stuff. Several people I know got a 20 in this module, one of whom hardly ever attended modules, so that shows how easy it can be.

However, 9am lectures are common for scientists (as stated above) and you'll get used to them pretty quick in later semesters.

Reply 11

Ekpyrotic

13

Easy module. Most math modules are early.

Reply 12

Meteorshower

14

Is MT2001 much harder? I'm doing that after 1002 this year.

Reply 13

Ekpyrotic

13

Meteorshower

Is MT2001 much harder?

I actually found MT2001 easier, but at the same time it's a v. fun module.

Reply 14

Meteorshower

14

Ekpyrotic

I actually found MT2001 easier, but at the same time it's a v. fun module.

If it's fun then I can't complain :p:

Reply 15

la_banane_verte

16

Ekpyrotic

I actually found MT2001 easier, but at the same time it's a v. fun module.

MT2001 must have been different when I took it then :p:

Reply 16

Oxy

14

Ah good looks like I won't struggle on this module too much, I hope. MT1003 looked more interesting, but you need a pass in MT1002 and I have no space left for another module :frown:

Reply 17

la_banane_verte

16

Oxy

Ah good looks like I won't struggle on this module too much, I hope. MT1003 looked more interesting, but you need a pass in MT1002 and I have no space left for another module :frown:

MT1003 is really good, probably the most interesting module I did in first year. I found all the other maths modules quite boring - they're very much 'methods' courses, giving you the tools you need so you can do the more interesting stuff later.

Reply 18

Oxy

14

la_banane_verte

MT1003 is really good, probably the most interesting module I did in first year. I found all the other maths modules quite boring - they're very much 'methods' courses, giving you the tools you need so you can do the more interesting stuff later.

Great! I'm avoiding anything to do with stats and any kind of proofs. I hated proofs at A-level :frown:

I'm really interested in the further calculus thats involved.

Reply 19

M_E_X

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Oxy

Great! I'm avoiding anything to do with stats and any kind of proofs. I hated proofs at A-level :frown:

I'm really interested in the further calculus thats involved.

Proof by induction is a massive part of MT1002, and of maths in general. It's obviously assumed knowledge for any courses above MT1002.

Calculus in MT1002 and even MT2001 is A-level standard and is revision and practice of techniques like chain rule, product rule, integration by substitution, etc...

The maths module MT1002

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