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Oxy

Great! I'm avoiding anything to do with stats and any kind of proofs. I hated proofs at A-level I'm really interested in the further calculus thats involved.

All you need to do to avoid stats is not take MT1007 or MT2004, I haven't seen any stats since a-level, it's great!

Like M_E_X said, there's proof involved in every level of maths at uni (moreso in the pure side but it does still appear in the applied stuff). If you're into calculus it sounds like you'd enjoy 1002/2001, there's a lot in there, and you might lean more towards the applied side of things...pure is much more fun though!

Ekpyrotic

MT2001 has linear math though. So that makes up for the silly integration stuff.

Argh, not linear maths! Fortunately a different lecturer teaches it now, but a very bad experience means I (and pretty much anyone who took MT3501 before 2008) am very, very scared of linear maths.

la_banane_verte

All you need to do to avoid stats is not take MT1007 or MT2004, I haven't seen any stats since a-level, it's great!

Like M_E_X said, there's proof involved in every level of maths at uni (moreso in the pure side but it does still appear in the applied stuff). If you're into calculus it sounds like you'd enjoy 1002/2001, there's a lot in there, and you might lean more towards the applied side of things...pure is much more fun though!

Argh, not linear maths! Fortunately a different lecturer teaches it now, but a very bad experience means I (and pretty much anyone who took MT3501 before 2008) am very, very scared of linear maths.

Like M_E_X said, there's proof involved in every level of maths at uni (moreso in the pure side but it does still appear in the applied stuff). If you're into calculus it sounds like you'd enjoy 1002/2001, there's a lot in there, and you might lean more towards the applied side of things...pure is much more fun though!

Argh, not linear maths! Fortunately a different lecturer teaches it now, but a very bad experience means I (and pretty much anyone who took MT3501 before 2008) am very, very scared of linear maths.

Calm... you are feeling calm.... breathe in....... and out..... and in....... and out.....

It's all in the past... we're safe now

Should I know what linear maths is?

M_E_X

Proof by induction is a massive part of MT1002, and of maths in general. It's obviously assumed knowledge for any courses above MT1002.

Calculus in MT1002 and even MT2001 is A-level standard and is revision and practice of techniques like chain rule, product rule, integration by substitution, etc...

Calculus in MT1002 and even MT2001 is A-level standard and is revision and practice of techniques like chain rule, product rule, integration by substitution, etc...

Well there was supposed to be proof by deduction and counter-example in A-level maths. But I never saw any on the exam paper ^^ hopefully I can just blag it. ooooh Linear maths?! what is this?

If its mostly A-level standard, hence I might skip to MT1003 ^^

Oxy

Well there was supposed to be proof by deduction and counter-example in A-level maths. But I never saw any on the exam paper ^^ hopefully I can just blag it. ooooh Linear maths?! what is this?

If its mostly A-level standard, hence I might skip to MT1003 ^^

If its mostly A-level standard, hence I might skip to MT1003 ^^

Induction is different to deduction

MT1002 is recommended for most people starting maths at uni; people of lower confidence often start with MT1001 instead.

Meteorshower

Should I know what linear maths is?

It's a bit like taking vectors and matrices and blending them with unadulterated doom

...to be fair, it's interesting. It looks at the general theory behind the stuff you do with n-by-n matrices and n-tuples (vectors), and you get to look at a load of examples. It comes in handy in a lot of later modules, and can be a nice way of thinking about things... by thinking of things in terms of linear maths, you can use properties that you know hold and can deduce stuff more easily, rather than having to force a proof through right from scratch.

There will be 3rd and 4th years who cry when you mention Linear Maths - don't worry. It's safe now

To be fair to Oxy, he was posting just after 3am

I found a page of linear maths notes that I scanned in for a friend who'd missed the lecture, have a look if you like:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/labananeverte/selfadjoint0001.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/labananeverte/selfadjoint0001.jpg

la_banane_verte

I found a page of linear maths notes that I scanned in for a friend who'd missed the lecture, have a look if you like:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/labananeverte/selfadjoint0001.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/labananeverte/selfadjoint0001.jpg

I hope that's high level stuff

Meteorshower

I hope that's high level stuff

MT3501, don't worry!

la_banane_verte

MT3501, don't worry!

Fears allayed

la_banane_verte

I found a page of linear maths notes that I scanned in for a friend who'd missed the lecture, have a look if you like:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/labananeverte/selfadjoint0001.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/labananeverte/selfadjoint0001.jpg

Make no sense what so ever

And yes as InterceptibleNinja said, I was tired and was heavily influenced

I have found teaching materials online for the Linear Algebra part of MT2001 and for MT3501, and can point you to them if you really, really want... but I'd be very wary. You'd be better waiting and enjoying having someone explain it, rather than ploughing through notes and stuff... there's so much potential for confusion by doing that.

I'd rather sit and have a little linear algebra huddle in a pub sometime instead It's not too bad when you attack it sensibly and with a good lecturer's explanations.

I'd rather sit and have a little linear algebra huddle in a pub sometime instead It's not too bad when you attack it sensibly and with a good lecturer's explanations.

placenta medicae talpae

Can't answer any specifics at all - sorry.

But I just thought I'd post to say that my name's Iain and I'm thinking of maths at the University of St. Andrews!

But I just thought I'd post to say that my name's Iain and I'm thinking of maths at the University of St. Andrews!

Why was I negative-repped for this post?

Iain.

I'd also like to know about MT1007, as the main (only ) reason I'm doing maths is to support my comp sci and economics work.

MT1007 isn't really helpful for comp sci. The most useful module for comp sci is MT2005, which has a pre req of MT1002.

I have no personal experience of economics, but from friends I hear that you will need to know a fair bit of calculus(MT1002 or 2001 would be useful here) and statistics, so MT1007 will be useful for that. I can't give any details though because I've never taken it (stats=evil)

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