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    Whats everyones opinion on this?
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    (Original post by Iluvatar)
    Whats everyones opinion on this?
    as they rightly point out, shouldnt he be listening to the backbenchers?
    it is just another gimmick-ridden, pandering, attempt to bend to meet the latest whim of the public.
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    as they rightly point out, shouldnt he be listening to the backbenchers?
    it is just another gimmick-ridden, pandering, attempt to bend to meet the latest whim of the public.
    I have to agree. It just sounds so cliche'd.
    It isn't really a conversation though, as he wont respond to anything said to him.
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    what is it?
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    (Original post by Dude)
    what is it?
    A government 'initiative' to attempt to be seen as listening to the people by launching the scheme called "the big conversation", where they want people to answer questions on how they think the future of this country should be run, and any ideas on solving britains problems.
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    how about stop letting in loads of imigrants
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    (Original post by Dude)
    how about stop letting in loads of imigrants
    Thats the sort of thing that they want people to talk about.
    But they wont listen, and thats the problem.
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    (Original post by Iluvatar)
    Thats the sort of thing that they want people to talk about.
    But they wont listen, and thats the problem.
    you mean that the government are pretending to listen when really they couldn't give a toss.
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    (Original post by Dude)
    you mean that the government are pretending to listen when really they couldn't give a toss.
    Yeah... so it isn't really a new initiative after all. Its the same old government.
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    (Original post by Dude)
    how about stop letting in loads of imigrants
    how abolishing border controls completely?
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    as Michael Howard pointed out, the concerns of the public are pretty glaring. you dont need to spend money on this to know what people want or have issues with, and especially so when your coming to the end of a second term in government. unless of course you wont to score some PR points...
    parliament is the place to develop policy based on input from backbenchers who represent British society. they are being completely ignored. even his own party can see the hypocrisy of it all.
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    (Original post by llama boy)
    how abolishing border controls completely?
    the first suggestion has its benefits, this has none.
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    as Michael Howard pointed out, the concerns of the public are pretty glaring. you dont need to spend money on this to know what people want or have issues with, and especially so when your coming to the end of a second term in government. unless of course you wont to score some PR points...
    parliament is the place to develop policy based on input from backbenchers who represent British society. they are being completely ignored. even his own party can see the hypocrisy of it all.
    But they can also see that even thats better than any tory government.
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    (Original post by Iluvatar)
    But they can also see that even thats better than any tory government.
    house opinion would suggest Labour MPs live in fear.
    opinion polls would suggest the public agree.

    the big conversation is the latest Labour resort to finding an initiative that the public might actually like. as opposed to all their policies where the public agree with the opposition. funnily, its rather like the democrats in the US who have no arguments left other than to get personal and Jewish.
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    the first suggestion has its benefits, this has none.
    it has the benefit of not being horribly inconsistent with the principles of economic globalisation.
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    house opinion would suggest Labour MPs live in fear.
    opinion polls would suggest the public agree.
    But real life would suggest differently
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    (Original post by Iluvatar)
    But real life would suggest differently
    how is the conservatives being ahead in opinion polls not real life?
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    (Original post by vienna95)
    opinion polls would suggest the public agree.
    not really, no. we're roughly mid term now, and for the oppositon to have a serious chance of getting elected next time they need to be really quite a long way ahead in the polls.

    they aren't.
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    (Original post by llama boy)
    it has the benefit of not being horribly inconsistent with the principles of economic globalisation.
    how?
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    (Original post by llama boy)
    not really, no. we're roughly mid term now, and for the oppositon to have a serious chance of getting elected next time they need to be really quite a long way ahead in the polls.

    they aren't.
    pay attention, read my comments.
 
 
 
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