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I would say the twenty year old guy.

What about his kid and family? he can change, and unlike the child he isn't a dependant. It's too late for the others, but if he was to be saved, there is still a chance for him, and perhaps the near-death experience would motivate him to turn his life around.

the rest of them don't contribute anything, but he has a young family, which needs his support.

the doctor is dead anyway; the nun is old, and the boy is seriously handicapped.
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And so we have health rationing! :rolleyes:
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Cut the lifejacket into 4 equal pieces and avoid having to carry a guilty conscience.
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Right I'll throw some more information into the pan, to see what people would argue:

1. The young female Junior Doctor has terminal cancer, but it is progessing at a slow rate and as she responded well to chemotherapy, theres no telling how long she may live - it could be 6 months, could be 6 years. Her specialist cannot say for certain.

2. The young man's previous convictions weren't serious and all occurred during his youth, 16-19 years of age. The most recent charge brought against him (manslaughter) is because he accidentily knocked down a young child playing dangerously (unsupervised) on the road. The child died.

3. The handicapped child is severely handicapped, with a mental age of a 6-year-old.
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(Original post by skevvybritt)
The young male, because people can change. Also, you don't say what the convictions were... and manslaughter is a crime without intent.
Also, he has a family to support.
The nun should be able to find God anywhere, and the doctor doesn't have long to live, whereas the man has the rest of his life.
7 previous convictions of manslaughter would result in him having no friends!!! lol
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(Original post by red_roadkill)
Right I'll throw some more information into the pan, to see what people would argue:

1. The young female Junior Doctor has terminal cancer, but it is progessing at a slow rate and as she responded well to chemotherapy, theres no telling how long she may live - it could be 6 months, could be 6 years. Her specialist cannot say for certain.

2. The young man's previous convictions weren't serious and all occurred during his youth, 16-19 years of age. The most recent charge brought against him (manslaughter) is because he accidentily knocked down a young child playing dangerously (unsupervised) on the road. The child died.

3. The handicapped child is severely handicapped, with a mental age of a 6-year-old.
The young man would give more to society- we all do crazy things when we're young, it makes us not do them again!
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7 previous convictions of manslaughter would result in him having no friends!!! lol
Er I doubt they would all be for manslaughter! you would think that after maybe 3 "accidental" killings, the courts might become slightly suspicious
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(Original post by red_roadkill)
There are 4 people trapped on a sinking boat. Unfortunately, there is only 1 life jacket. The people are:

1. An elderly nun, who is scared and afraid and yearning for her convent so she can commune with the Lord. Has never had a family of her own.

2. A seriously handicapped child. He is from a single-parent family.

3. A young male, aged 21, with 7 previous convictions and currently awaiting trial for manslaughter. He has a wife and young child.

4. Young female Junior Doctor with so much to give, but also suffering from terminal cancer. She has no family.

So, who would you save and why?
The young male for several reasons;
a) That he has a wife and child
b) That he is only awaiting trial for manslaughter; he hasn't been found guilty; and his previous convictions might only be for more trivial crimes undertaken in his foolish youth (I don't know.....stealing a Toffee Crisp from Woolworth) and he may in fact be living a decent and good life.
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(Original post by red_roadkill)
There are 4 people trapped on a sinking boat. Unfortunately, there is only 1 life jacket. The people are:

1. An elderly nun, who is scared and afraid and yearning for her convent so she can commune with the Lord. Has never had a family of her own.

2. A seriously handicapped child. He is from a single-parent family.

3. A young male, aged 21, with 7 previous convictions and currently awaiting trial for manslaughter. He has a wife and young child.

4. Young female Junior Doctor with so much to give, but also suffering from terminal cancer. She has no family.

So, who would you save and why?
The nun will have her God when she dies. The seriously handicapped child would not have much of a life and could be a burden on his/her (single) parent. This leaves the young male or the doctor - a tricky one. The terminal cancer may only leave the doctor six months to live and she has no family who need her. The young male on the other hand, has a wife and a young child who probably rely on him for support. Therefore I choose the young male. Incidently, if there was only one life jacket, the young male would probably overpower the other three anyway.
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(Original post by red_roadkill)
Right I'll throw some more information into the pan, to see what people would argue:

1. The young female Junior Doctor has terminal cancer, but it is progessing at a slow rate and as she responded well to chemotherapy, theres no telling how long she may live - it could be 6 months, could be 6 years. Her specialist cannot say for certain.

2. The young man's previous convictions weren't serious and all occurred during his youth, 16-19 years of age. The most recent charge brought against him (manslaughter) is because he accidentily knocked down a young child playing dangerously (unsupervised) on the road. The child died.

3. The handicapped child is severely handicapped, with a mental age of a 6-year-old.
It's hard... I suppose that you would have to go for the person whom has the most to live for, with regard to other people (i.e. who will they affect fod good/bad). The doctor IS dieing, and discounting the whole "anyone could walk out in front of a bus" philosopy, will die soon. A similar idea exists for the nun... and although she wishes to find God, can she not do that in the boat?

The child and the young man are both harder to discount... The mans convictions do not seem to be dents upon his integrity... People all make mistakes as a teenager: it's part of growing up. Also, accidents can happen to the best of people... especially when cars are involved. In addition to this, there is his family to consider. The child does have a severe dissability, however does this mean that they cannot ever go on to influence people in such a way that they will, in future, feel the same about him as the young mans family do about him...

Assuming that only one can be saved, i would have to say the child... he may be severely dissabled, but does that mean he cannot make a mark on the lives of people in the way the young man has? The young man has had children, and loved and been loved... Yes, not for as long as it would have been hoped, but he has done so nonetheless... What I'm Trying to say is that he's made an impact. The child has not had the chance, and the dissability will not stop him being loved, of making an impact on people... Surely, despite the dissability, he should be allowed the chance???

So, the kid... I think...
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i think i'd save the young doctor. in her remaining lifetime she may help save the lives of others.

my second choice would probably be the nun; i've always been taught to help out old ladies
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Women and children first is the rule. Both women are going to die soon anyway, so the child gets it. Next question please!
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It's all very well saying "save the man because he has his life ahead of him", but what if he has a fatal accident as soon as he's on land?

The man's wife and child don't necessarily rely on him for support: where did that sexist notion come from?

Why not save the young doctor? With a terminal illness and no family, the poor woman has had enough tragedy without drowning at sea too.
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chuck the nun overboard, she's lived her life and given to society as much as she can, how much more can she give
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a seriously handicapped child would probably be better of dead anyway
That's an absolutely revolting thing to say.

I would save the child.
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(Original post by Scubar)
chuck the nun overboard, she's lived her life and given to society as much as she can, how much more can she give
Are people only valuable because of what they can do for society?
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That's an absolutely revolting thing to say.

I would save the child.
It depends on how handicaped, if hes one of those that cant move at all, not even speak he would be better of dead. If I ended up like that I would want to be dead.
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It depends on how handicaped, if hes one of those that cant move at all, not even speak he would be better of dead. If I ended up like that I would want to be dead.
Do you speak for everyone in that condition then? You sure are a great spokesperson!
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It depends on how handicaped, if hes one of those that cant move at all, not even speak he would be better of dead. If I ended up like that I would want to be dead.
Stephen Hawking cannot move or speak. Is he a worthless person?
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where everyone keeps saying the young man has a wife and child, how do you know he doesnt beat the woman and child etc etc nothing says hes actually a good guy or will improve, he could make society worse ._.
i would say the nurse or the kid...
the kid because hes had no chance at any kind of life, surely he should get atleast one chance?
and the nurse because shes already given so much to others and probably could help more.

not the guy cos well single mums can manage ._.
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