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***Advice on studying adult nursing first then child nursing???***

Hi all

I am going to apply to uni this year for childrens nursing, however I have spoken to a few people in the nursing field who recommend me doing adult nursing first and then specialising in paeds rather than going straight in to it. They have said that I will be more employable in the future. :smile:

I am really passionate about nursing and caring for children and I am positive that I will ultimatly go into paeds, however I am confused as to which way to approach it.

If anyone could give me some advice as to what I should do that would be great! :smile:

Emily x

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Reply 1

That's exactly what i'm thinking of doing!
Originally I was set on being a children's nurse but I think its best to do adults nursing first... as you said I think you will be more employable and it gives you more options!
I would like to move abroad after my training- I've heard a lot of countries don't just accept children's nursing.. they like you to have 'general nursing'
so I'm glad i'm doing adults.. but I know I definitely want to got into paediatric nursing

Reply 2

Hiya

Thanks for your comment :smile: Where are you applying to?

Reply 3

Holamigo
That's exactly what i'm thinking of doing!
Originally I was set on being a children's nurse but I think its best to do adults nursing first... as you said I think you will be more employable and it gives you more options!
I would like to move abroad after my training- I've heard a lot of countries don't just accept children's nursing.. they like you to have 'general nursing'
so I'm glad i'm doing adults.. but I know I definitely want to got into paediatric nursing

Good luck :smile: x

Reply 4

millybee
Hiya

Thanks for your comment :smile: Where are you applying to?



its alrite :smile:

well ive got a place at chester university for march !

what are you gonna do then... apply for adult or children first? and where u thinking of applying?

Reply 5

this is all totally new to me...Ive been told many trusts make it very difficult for general nurses to change their branch!

Reply 6

Cup of Inspiration
this is all totally new to me...Ive been told many trusts make it very difficult for general nurses to change their branch!


You can apply to the university to do an 18 month - 2 year course and duel qualify. Many Trusts I've found will support this (as seen on placements) and if not, you can always apply and fund yourself :smile:.

Reply 7

herbal bug
You can apply to the university to do an 18 month - 2 year course and duel qualify. Many Trusts I've found will support this (as seen on placements) and if not, you can always apply and fund yourself :smile:.



yeah, ive heard many horror stories at my trust about them not funding or not supporting those wanting to change branches!!

Reply 8

My sister is doing that.

She starts an adult nursing course later this month, and she will take the conversion course after.

Reply 9

Ice_Queen
My sister is doing that.

She starts an adult nursing course later this month, and she will take the conversion course after.

well shes not doing it then is she, ive heard about members of staff wanting to convert, and the trust have told them to wait 3 years on their branch as a NQN first, or they've had interviews where they've basically been told, you don't want this job so why should we keep you and payfor you to do something else etc

Why doesn't your sister just change branch during her cfp year?!

Reply 10

Cup of Inspiration
yeah, ive heard many horror stories at my trust about them not funding or not supporting those wanting to change branches!!


Horror stories lol do tell?

well its not really changing branches... I see it as getting your 'general nursing' first then moving into a specialised area such as children..
just like people who do nursing first then do the 18 month midwifery course afterwards.

Id rather do this than just launch straight into being a childrens nurse.

Reply 11

Holamigo
Horror stories lol do tell?

well its not really changing branches... I see it as getting your 'general nursing' first then moving into a specialised area such as children..
just like people who do nursing first then do the 18 month midwifery course afterwards.

Id rather do this than just launch straight into being a childrens nurse.



nah thats fair enough, personally if i was going to spend 2 years out of my career, i'd rather it'd be in a specialism within my own branch, rather than retraining really when you get the chance to do so within your first year :dontknow:

Reply 12

Cup of Inspiration
well shes not doing it then is she, ive heard about members of staff wanting to convert, and the trust have told them to wait 3 years on their branch as a NQN first, or they've had interviews where they've basically been told, you don't want this job so why should we keep you and payfor you to do something else etc

Why doesn't your sister just change branch during her cfp year?!



What do you mean, she's not doing it?

You don't have to sound so annoyed (that's just how it comes across online, apologies if that isn't your intent). Stephie doesn't mind doing adult nursing for a while, otherwise she would have chosen the smaller speciality. She's more employable as an adult nurse, naturally; it's a bigger demographic vs. childrens, mental health, and learning disability nursing. Adult nursing gives a much more rounded skillset as opposed to the other three main branches. I see it in the same way Holamigo does.

Reply 13

Ice_Queen
What do you mean, she's not doing it?

You don't have to sound so annoyed (that's just how it comes across online, apologies if that isn't your intent). Stephie doesn't mind doing adult nursing for a while, otherwise she would have chosen the smaller speciality. She's more employable as an adult nurse, naturally; it's a bigger demographic vs. childrens, mental health, and learning disability nursing. Adult nursing gives a much more rounded skillset as opposed to the other three main branches.



you said shes doing the conversion course when shes not even started her pre-reg training yet, I dont get why people go into a branch wanting to graduate as a RGN but want to do something else, it makes so mcuh sense to use those 2 years in a branch you WANT to end up working in, doing a masters or speciality etc

Reply 14

Cup of Inspiration
you said shes doing the conversion course when shes not even started her pre-reg training yet, I dont get why people go into a branch wanting to graduate as a RGN but want to do something else, it makes so mcuh sense to use those 2 years in a branch you WANT to end up working in, doing a masters or speciality etc



No, I said she is studying in the same way as the OP suggested... not that she is currently doing the conversion.

Because she wants the more well rounded education of an adult nurse.



I'm an Accountancy student, and it's akin to me doing my degree and then moving on to my CIMA. The CIMA is more specialised, and I don't need the degree to do it, but I'm getting a better skill set from doing the degree first.

Reply 15

Cup of Inspiration
you said shes doing the conversion course when shes not even started her pre-reg training yet, I dont get why people go into a branch wanting to graduate as a RGN but want to do something else, it makes so mcuh sense to use those 2 years in a branch you WANT to end up working in, doing a masters or speciality etc


Those 2 years will be worth it because adult nursing is known as 'general nursing' and it will give a really good foundation for someone doing the childrens nursing afterwards.

What about midwives? A lot of people do nursing for 3 years then do the conversion course for 18 months afterwards...Its the same as this! - it's just the next stepping stone to the career you want.

Say a person who has done Adult nursing for 3 years & then does the child conversion course - they will be waay more experienced compared to someone who just went for the 3 years childrens nursing course as they have experience of adult nursing too!
Its also a kind of back up aswel... you have the choice to work as an adult nurse or childrens nurse.
Thats how I see it.

Reply 16

Holamigo
Those 2 years will be worth it because adult nursing is known as 'general nursing' and it will give a really good foundation for someone doing the childrens nursing afterwards.

What about midwives? A lot of people do nursing for 3 years then do the conversion course for 18 months afterwards...Its the same as this! - it's just the next stepping stone to the career you want.

Say a person who has done Adult nursing for 3 years & then does the child conversion course - they will be waay more experienced compared to someone who just went for the 3 years childrens nursing course as they have experience of adult nursing too!
Its also a kind of back up aswel... you have the choice to work as an adult nurse or childrens nurse.
Thats how I see it.


Im all for extra learning, but for me its time- it takes about 3-7 years to get to band 6, and I want to be at the top of my game, and 2 years is some fair amount of time to take out of a career really

Reply 17

Cup of Inspiration
Im all for extra learning, but for me its time- it takes about 3-7 years to get to band 6, and I want to be at the top of my game, and 2 years is some fair amount of time to take out of a career really


2 years is nothing really? when you think A levels- that went so fast for me don't know about you!
And It will actually help you get there faster - the more qualifications & experience you have the more chance you have of being at the top of your game!

Reply 18

Holamigo
2 years is nothing really? when you think A levels- that went so fast for me don't know about you!
And It will actually help you get there faster - the more qualifications & experience you have the more chance you have of being at the top of your game!



well, you wouldnt have more experience as you'll just be starting again in a different branch

Reply 19

Holamigo
its alrite :smile:

well ive got a place at chester university for march !

what are you gonna do then... apply for adult or children first? and where u thinking of applying?


Well done on getting a place :smile: I think I am going to apply to child nursing: I see where the benefits are in doing adults first and I totally agree with it but I just think it suits me better to do child nursing and then work for a while, maybe travel and work in another country, gain some experience and then see what I want to do from there: maybe specialise further?

I am applying to Napier University (Edinburgh), Dundee and York for next September. I am looking at other unis to widen my options but they are what I like so far :biggrin: