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Original post by cloc
Hi - I'm considering applying for History & Politics next year. Just wondering about the workload - does anybody know roughly how many hours of lectures I'd have per week? And for tutorials? How many essays? Is there ever work other than essays? etc. etc...anything would be useful.

thanks!!

apologies if this is all mentioned on the faculty website - I couldn't find anything about how it actually works beyond just 'lectures and tutorials' etc...


Well as a straight history student, in my first term I had 3 essays a fortnight (alternating between having 2 essays one week then 1 the next) and 5 lectures a week (1 a day Mon-Fri). The 3 essays a fortnight bit continued into Hilary, but by then I only had 3 lectures a week, and then in Trinity the essay rate went down to 1 a week due to revision for exams. However, although that doesn't seem like very much (and historians do get mocked for their lack of a set timetable) if you're being responsible about it nearly all of the rest of your time will be spent working on said essays, in the library or otherwise. How much work you do is largely up to you. So we get some free time, yes, but don't expect to get much and do a decent essay. As far as other work goes, that's down to the individual tutor - I was once set a source to read and report on for the next tute - but mostly the subject is essay-based.

As far as I'm aware joint schools don't have more work than the straight history students, more like alternate modules, though if anyone knows more feel free to correct me.
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Original post by Incarnadine91
Well as a straight history student...


Thanks very much. Good to know that the joint honours wouldn't be much more work - it sounds enough!
Original post by cloc
Thanks very much. Good to know that the joint honours wouldn't be much more work - it sounds enough!


We do get less work than the majority of other subjects though, so enjoy it :wink:
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Hey, so I'm going to this open day for History thing this Friday and I'm just wondering if anyone else is going? Mainly because I'm going to know absolutely no one :P
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Yeah I'm going! :smile:
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GREETINGS FELLOW HISTORIANS!
What have we been doing over summer? I feel I have my personal statement reading okay but my history coursework for A2 has been left to the last minute!
Anyone else feeling a weird mix of excitement and fear?
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Original post by flywithemma
This might be a really stupid question, but does anyone know the dates which the terms 'medieval', 'early modern' and 'modern' encompass?


As far as I worked it out, Medieval is from about 300AD to 1400, Early Modern from 1400 to 1800 and Modern from then on. I saw it as Medieval: after the fall of Rome, Early Modern: from the Renaissance and Modern: from the French/Industrial Revolutions.
Original post by deFossard
As far as I worked it out, Medieval is from about 300AD to 1400, Early Modern from 1400 to 1800 and Modern from then on. I saw it as Medieval: after the fall of Rome, Early Modern: from the Renaissance and Modern: from the French/Industrial Revolutions.


This is pretty much how I've always seen it, too.
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Original post by The Anti-Hero
This is pretty much how I've always seen it, too.


Don't forget tho that we have to bear in mind the restrictions in my spoiler here:

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showpost.php?p=33713352&postcount=677

I mean, exact start/end dates of the three periods depend on the paper chosen, and we have to choose at least one outline paper from each period over the course of the degree. So some folk like to get their 'weakest' period out of the way during Prelims when it doesn't 'count'. Others argue that it's better to start off with a favourite period, to get into the swing of things.
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Original post by Incarnadine91
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Hi there

Can you remember from last year whether Michaelmas lecture lists are published in advance of start of term, and if so when might that be? Reason for my question is that I have permi to live out of college and the tutor is kindly going to do her best to hold my tutorial on one of the lecture days. It would just ease my study/travel/procrastinate/sleep logistics a little :juggle:

Looking at previous lecture lists, the outline papers don't seem to vary much year by year (Monday and Wednesday at 12.00?). Do you think it's fairly safe to assume the same for the coming term?

Many thanks :smile:
Original post by shoshin
Hi there

Can you remember from last year whether Michaelmas lecture lists are published in advance of start of term, and if so when might that be? Reason for my question is that I have permi to live out of college and the tutor is kindly going to do her best to hold my tutorial on one of the lecture days. It would just ease my study/travel/procrastinate/sleep logistics a little :juggle:

Looking at previous lecture lists, the outline papers don't seem to vary much year by year (Monday and Wednesday at 12.00?). Do you think it's fairly safe to assume the same for the coming term?

Many thanks :smile:


No, if I remember rightly my lecture list arrived in my pidge during Freshers'... I think they need to confirm you've arrived before they send you it. That said, my Hilary/Trinity lecture lists arrived by e-mail, so there might be an online version around somewhere. In Michaelmas there's usually a lecture once a day Mon-Fri anyway, so you should be safe going by the previous years' plan :smile: Hope that helps!
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Original post by Incarnadine91
No, if I remember rightly my lecture list arrived in my pidge during Freshers'... I think they need to confirm you've arrived before they send you it. That said, my Hilary/Trinity lecture lists arrived by e-mail, so there might be an online version around somewhere. In Michaelmas there's usually a lecture once a day Mon-Fri anyway, so you should be safe going by the previous years' plan :smile: Hope that helps!


Thanks for the quick reply! Yes, there is an online version but at present it still shows Trinity 2011 as the latest one. I'm starting in Year Two so unless I've miscalculated there are only two lectures per week (I'm BHIII btw) till Xmas; apparently no lectures for Disciplines this term?? Seems on the light side, even for History students :smile:
Original post by shoshin
Thanks for the quick reply! Yes, there is an online version but at present it still shows Trinity 2011 as the latest one. I'm starting in Year Two so unless I've miscalculated there are only two lectures per week (I'm BHIII btw) till Xmas; apparently no lectures for Disciplines this term?? Seems on the light side, even for History students :smile:


Oh, we don't have Disciplines lectures yet? That's a plus :wink: Might mean an easy Michaelmas then!
Original post by Incarnadine91
Oh, we don't have Disciplines lectures yet? That's a plus :wink: Might mean an easy Michaelmas then!


Do you know if there are lectures for the Tocqueville option because the Michaelmas lecture list for 2010 doesn't say there are any (http://www.history.ox.ac.uk/lecturelist/documents/MT2010AMENDED10-11-10.pdf) that seems weird to me. Unless it's because we're all going to French for historians instead? Do we just do the British paper and the approaches to History in Michaelmas?
Original post by billieerin23
Do you know if there are lectures for the Tocqueville option because the Michaelmas lecture list for 2010 doesn't say there are any (http://www.history.ox.ac.uk/lecturelist/documents/MT2010AMENDED10-11-10.pdf) that seems weird to me. Unless it's because we're all going to French for historians instead? Do we just do the British paper and the approaches to History in Michaelmas?


I'm afraid I don't know anyone who did any foreign texts so I don't know what the plan is there, sorry. It is weird that you don't seem to have lectures for that... but then again that list is really stupid to navigate, we might both have just missed them. Yeah, MT is usually taken up by British history and half of Approaches, HT is General history and the other half, then TT is your Optional Subject. But if you're doing Tocqueville you won't be doing Approaches so I don't know what's uo with that... unless the foreign texts option is a shorter course, and can be squeezed into HT alone? That might be it.

(MT = Michaelmas Term, HT = Hilary term, etc, it's easier than writing them all out every time)
Original post by Incarnadine91
I'm afraid I don't know anyone who did any foreign texts so I don't know what the plan is there, sorry. It is weird that you don't seem to have lectures for that... but then again that list is really stupid to navigate, we might both have just missed them. Yeah, MT is usually taken up by British history and half of Approaches, HT is General history and the other half, then TT is your Optional Subject. But if you're doing Tocqueville you won't be doing Approaches so I don't know what's uo with that... unless the foreign texts option is a shorter course, and can be squeezed into HT alone? That might be it.

(MT = Michaelmas Term, HT = Hilary term, etc, it's easier than writing them all out every time)


Thanks! I think they might be in Hilary instead from checking last year's HT lecture list so maybe that's it
Original post by billieerin23
Thanks! I think they might be in Hilary instead from checking last year's HT lecture list so maybe that's it


There we go then, problem solved. What other modules are you doing, out of interest? (Sorry if I've asked you this before :s-smilie:)
Original post by Incarnadine91
There we go then, problem solved. What other modules are you doing, out of interest? (Sorry if I've asked you this before :s-smilie:)


It was a tough call but I went for British 2 1042-1300. I just finished Tocqueville which was very hard and haven't picked anything else in terms of modules yet. I'm now moving on to British Medieval History books. Hello "The Struggle for Mastery"!
Original post by billieerin23
It was a tough call but I went for British 2 1042-1300. I just finished Tocqueville which was very hard and haven't picked anything else in terms of modules yet. I'm now moving on to British Medieval History books. Hello "The Struggle for Mastery"!


Ah, that's what I did - and I think I was the one who recommended people pick up 'The Struggle for Mastery' too. Really, it's indispensible, at least for the first part of the course, and it's always out of the bloody library... I would also say get 'The Three Edwards' by Michael Prestwich for the rest, that's also good. Those two books will see you through, I think 2/3 of my revision for that paper included reading one or other of them.

Hope you have a better time with Brit 2 than I had - medieval history isn't my thing, so I was taking it to get it out of the way, plus I didn't really know what I was doing yet :rolleyes: Ah, early days!
Original post by Incarnadine91
Ah, that's what I did - and I think I was the one who recommended people pick up 'The Struggle for Mastery' too. Really, it's indispensible, at least for the first part of the course, and it's always out of the bloody library... I would also say get 'The Three Edwards' by Michael Prestwich for the rest, that's also good. Those two books will see you through, I think 2/3 of my revision for that paper included reading one or other of them.

Hope you have a better time with Brit 2 than I had - medieval history isn't my thing, so I was taking it to get it out of the way, plus I didn't really know what I was doing yet :rolleyes: Ah, early days!


Which college are you at? I'm at St Hugh's. Thus far the Medieval History books have been hard but fun purely because it's something completely new. Although I must say that the struggle for mastery, while entertaining and quite accessible, is a bit daunting purely because of its length . . . Who did you have for Brit 2? I thought I'd get Dr Garnett but I've been told he's on sabbatical this year

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