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Original post by billieerin23
Which college are you at? I'm at St Hugh's. Thus far the Medieval History books have been hard but fun purely because it's something completely new. Although I must say that the struggle for mastery, while entertaining and quite accessible, is a bit daunting purely because of its length . . . Who did you have for Brit 2? I thought I'd get Dr Garnett but I've been told he's on sabbatical this year


I'm at Catz, but I had Dr. Tyerman at Hertford - apparently a lot of brit 2 is taught out of college. Tyerman was alright, but he could be a bit pompous and a lot of his tutes involved him telling us stuff, rather than debating with us, which I've since learned is not the best method. Still, he taught us the basics. SFM is actually pretty standard in length, better get used to it...:wink:
Original post by Incarnadine91
I'm at Catz, but I had Dr. Tyerman at Hertford - apparently a lot of brit 2 is taught out of college. Tyerman was alright, but he could be a bit pompous and a lot of his tutes involved him telling us stuff, rather than debating with us, which I've since learned is not the best method. Still, he taught us the basics. SFM is actually pretty standard in length, better get used to it...:wink:


Nooooo! I clearly need to work on my speed reading. And I quite fancy being taught out of college actually, I like the idea of seeing all the other colleges, not just being confined to mine (not that I don't love Hugh's). But in Freshers week it says we meet with our tutors so will I have to leave college to do that and find my way to Hertford or something? I have a tendancy to get lost
Original post by billieerin23
Nooooo! I clearly need to work on my speed reading. And I quite fancy being taught out of college actually, I like the idea of seeing all the other colleges, not just being confined to mine (not that I don't love Hugh's). But in Freshers week it says we meet with our tutors so will I have to leave college to do that and find my way to Hertford or something? I have a tendancy to get lost


Indexes are your friend :wink: Yeah, walking over Hertford's fancy bridge to get to my tute was pretty epic, and you get to see more of Oxford than you would normally. You won't necessarily have Tyerman, but yes, you'll have to find your way to whatever college you have it in. Oxford is pretty easy to navigate, although Hughes is a bit further out than most. And plenty of people will be around to ask directions.
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Original post by billieerin23
..I like the idea of seeing all the other colleges, not just being confined to mine (not that I don't love Hugh's). But in Freshers week it says we meet with our tutors so will I have to leave college to do that and find my way to Hertford or something? I have a tendancy to get lost


I gather that a number of colleges send their BHII/III to Dr. Lacey at Mansfield. We're rather well hidden so let me know if you end up there and need directions :wink:
Original post by shoshin
I gather that a number of colleges send their BHII/III to Dr. Lacey at Mansfield. We're rather well hidden so let me know if you end up there and need directions :wink:


Thanks and thank you Carna too I feel much better about navigating my way to tutorials (on time) now, it'll be nice to see other colleges.
Original post by billieerin23
Thanks and thank you Carna too I feel much better about navigating my way to tutorials (on time) now, it'll be nice to see other colleges.


No problem! Happy to help.
Original post by Incarnadine91
No problem! Happy to help.


I'd positive rep you but it says I have to spread it around before giving you more!
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So, who's reading for the Foreign Text paper?

I taking far too long over Tocqueville, but at least I'm being thorough! How is everyone else finding it? I may have to resort to speedily reading the translation soon.
Original post by deFossard
So, who's reading for the Foreign Text paper?

I taking far too long over Tocqueville, but at least I'm being thorough! How is everyone else finding it? I may have to resort to speedily reading the translation soon.


De Fos I think you know I'm tocqueville already? But if not then hello I'm Billie and I'm doing Tocqueville too :smile: I finished it last Thursday (with a little help from the English translation when I got stuck admittedly but mostly in french) and have now moved onto The Struggle For Mastery for Brit 2 (English History books now seem such a gift, imagine, only having to read a paragraph once to understand it!)

I started Tocqueville before Results Day so it took me a while but every page or two I stopped to make a few notes on what I'd learnt/disagreed with. I found it very hard so be reassured :smile: I'm pretty sure it's meant to seem difficult and a bit daunting, I mean it's Oxford and we have all this term to get to grips with the text properly (although I read last year's examiner's reports for History and apparently tons of students did disappointingly in the Tocqueville paper . . . which is less reassuring). I've only met one other person doing Tocqueville and I met her on facebook so I don't know if she's on tsr. But there must be more of us. Which bit of Tocqueville are you at? I must say some bits (once I'd understood them) were really lovely and poetic. Some bits were just intimidating and frustrating.
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Original post by billieerin23
De Fos I think you know I'm tocqueville already? But if not then hello I'm Billie and I'm doing Tocqueville too :smile: I finished it last Thursday (with a little help from the English translation when I got stuck admittedly but mostly in french) and have now moved onto The Struggle For Mastery for Brit 2 (English History books now seem such a gift, imagine, only having to read a paragraph once to understand it!)

I started Tocqueville before Results Day so it took me a while but every page or two I stopped to make a few notes on what I'd learnt/disagreed with. I found it very hard so be reassured :smile: I'm pretty sure it's meant to seem difficult and a bit daunting, I mean it's Oxford and we have all this term to get to grips with the text properly (although I read last year's examiner's reports for History and apparently tons of students did disappointingly in the Tocqueville paper . . . which is less reassuring). I've only met one other person doing Tocqueville and I met her on facebook so I don't know if she's on tsr. But there must be more of us. Which bit of Tocqueville are you at? I must say some bits (once I'd understood them) were really lovely and poetic. Some bits were just intimidating and frustrating.


Yes! I remember the messages you sent me about this a while ago. It really is a relief to get onto English history afterwards.

Well I'm reading about administrative centralisation at the moment, how it was (as with everything in this book) actually an act of the Ancien Régime and not actually the revolution. I think I saw a couple of others picking it on the Magdalen Facebook page, I'd imagine it's quite a popular foreign text to take.

I agree that some of the language is quite poetic, his likening France to a river before and after the revolution is rather nice - "it's merely the same water between different river banks". I've a nice grasp of his arguments now, though some of his digressions are so dull! Especially about farming techniques.
Original post by deFossard
Yes! I remember the messages you sent me about this a while ago. It really is a relief to get onto English history afterwards.

Well I'm reading about administrative centralisation at the moment, how it was (as with everything in this book) actually an act of the Ancien Régime and not actually the revolution. I think I saw a couple of others picking it on the Magdalen Facebook page, I'd imagine it's quite a popular foreign text to take.

I agree that some of the language is quite poetic, his likening France to a river before and after the revolution is rather nice - "it's merely the same water between different river banks". I've a nice grasp of his arguments now, though some of his digressions are so dull! Especially about farming techniques.


Historians seem to be so fond of digressing from their interesting main arguments/narrative to tediously describe agricultural techniques and trends. I think they do it just to make life for students a little bit dull.
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Original post by The Anti-Hero
Historians seem to be so fond of digressing from their interesting main arguments/narrative to tediously describe agricultural techniques and trends. I think they do it just to make life for students a little bit dull.


I, personally, love reading about farming techniques.
Original post by Yafoubnx
I, personally, love reading about farming techniques.


Of course I was just expressing my own opinion!
Our understanding of the past would be pretty one-dimensional
if everybody was interested in the same kind of history.
Original post by billieerin23
But there must be more of us.


Hi, I'm doing it too! I'm Alice and I'm going to Hertford :smile: up to l2c4...quite a bit to go but it is interesting!
Original post by lissy<3
Hi, I'm doing it too! I'm Alice and I'm going to Hertford :smile: up to l2c4...quite a bit to go but it is interesting!


Hi, sorry to barge in on this but I'm also doing history at Hertford :smile:
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Original post by purplesocks289
Hi, sorry to barge in on this but I'm also doing history at Hertford :smile:


I'm a 2nd year historian at Hertford, so if you have any questions, fire away
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Could a current student advise, based on the experience of previous years, at what point the Michaelmas 2011 lecture list is likely to be available here:

http://www.history.ox.ac.uk/lecturelist/index.htm

Will it be published before Fresher's week?

Many thanks :smile:
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Original post by shoshin
Could a current student advise, based on the experience of previous years, at what point the Michaelmas 2011 lecture list is likely to be available here:

http://www.history.ox.ac.uk/lecturelist/index.htm

Will it be published before Fresher's week?

Many thanks :smile:


Should be up during fresher's week, the history faculty is pretty slow at getting them up, so probs won't be up before you get there
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Original post by pirieca
I'm a 2nd year historian at Hertford, so if you have any questions, fire away


Know Ben Slater? He's a cousin of mine, reading history, starting on his third year soon.
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Original post by deFossard
Know Ben Slater? He's a cousin of mine, reading history, starting on his third year soon.


Don't know him well, but know of him. you tend to get to know they years above you relatively well in hertford though

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