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Reply 60
I think under Freedom of Information shizz you are allowed to request your results, but you will have to contact the admissions office of the college you applied to and go from there. As far a I am aware they do not automatically send them to you.
If you wanted feedback as to why you were unsuccessful then you can also ask for a more general overview of your application, but I would suspect that you have left it too late now to get anything that is genuinely useful. I can't imagine that tutors hold on to interview notes for this long, but I may be mistaken.
Reply 61
I don't even wanna talk about it, makes me feel depressed.
Mook
I think under Freedom of Information shizz you are allowed to request your results, but you will have to contact the admissions office of the college you applied to and go from there. As far a I am aware they do not automatically send them to you.
If you wanted feedback as to why you were unsuccessful then you can also ask for a more general overview of your application, but I would suspect that you have left it too late now to get anything that is genuinely useful. I can't imagine that tutors hold on to interview notes for this long, but I may be mistaken.


Yeah, I asked for the general information about my application straight away (i.e. within a week of getting the rejection, I think), but they said that they couldn't provide any detailed information on the reasons. Maybe I might have got further if I got my referee to ask. But hopefully the test results will still be around somewhere :smile:
Hey just got an email from my Tutor (hopefully!) currently I'm doing sixteenth century Tudors and such :hmmmm:

I wondering if anyone had any recommendations of what to do in the 1st year... as I see it I'm not allowed to do Early modern because that's what I've been studying during the Sixth form.

What I'm thinking of doing atm is in red...


British History 2: 1042-1330 (medieval)
British History 3: 1330-1550 (early-modern)
British History 4: 1500-1700 (early-modern)
British History 5: 1685-1830 (modern)
British History 6: 1815-1924 (modern).

General History 2: 1000-1300 (medieval)
General History 3: 1400-1650 (early modern)
General History 4: 1815-1914 (modern).


Is this good combo and how will affect my later choices?

Help much appreciated and any random History advice would also be good :smile:
Reply 64
Wow! You've got so many choices whilst they only gave me four options to choose from. Really, I don't know that much about the details of these options, but from what I've heard, what you do in your first year won't really limit your choices in your second and third years, though it may well help you delve into a topic that has been covered in your first year. If you fancy doing a bit in every period, it does look like a very nice combination tho.
Reply 65
A-level medieval is really interesting. My two cents.

Also, very well done on the Oxford offer, you badass.
Look on the Oxford History website, and find the member of staff who co-ordinates UG admissions / HAT tests, and email her (I think it's a her...)

I got mine back in February at some point :smile:
Reply 67
Yeah, you can get them from the History Faculty, not the college.
Reply 68
Cognoverant
Yeah, I asked for the general information about my application straight away (i.e. within a week of getting the rejection, I think), but they said that they couldn't provide any detailed information on the reasons. Maybe I might have got further if I got my referee to ask. But hopefully the test results will still be around somewhere :smile:

OP did you just neg me. I wasn't lecturing you, I was just sharing my personal experience.
MJlover
OP did you just neg me. I wasn't lecturing you, I was just sharing my personal experience.


No, I didn't :confused:
Reply 70
Cognoverant
No, I didn't :confused:

are you sure. cos if you did, I wont neg you back.
MJlover
are you sure. cos if you did, I wont neg you back.


No, I'm sure I didn't :smile:
Reply 72
In terms of your future options, the only thing that you really need to consider is Oxford's stipulation that over the course of your entire degree you study at least one paper from each of the medieval, early modern and modern periods. This sounds a bit harsh at first to some people but in reality is very easy to achieve, given the wide range of courses that are on offer.

As things stand you will have to do an early modern paper at some point in your second year, normally either as your British or General option. But if you're doing early modern at the moment then I would say it's good to try new stuff in your first year and then you'll be able to make a more informed choice about what you want to focus in on in for the Final Honours School (i.e. 2nd and 3rd year papers that will make up your final degree).
Hey, I was just wondering if any current history students could possibly give me some advice on the different courses?

I was wondering what exactly quantification paper involves. Iv'e read what the history website says but I dont quite understand how it fits with history. I was just wondering if anyone could give me an example of what sorts of things it involves. How much maths is it, and I guess what I'm wondering the most do you actually learn about any period of history when doing it or is it simply teaching you a different way to evaluate history?

Also, I'm having a hard time picking which British and general papers to do! I understand that I have to take 1 module from each time period, but the only ones which cover the middle period are times which I have done for A-level. I know which modules I want to study next year, and so I have worked out that I need the combination of either british (300-1087) and general (1400-1650) or british(1500-1700) and general (370-900). Basically what I would like to know is, 1. Has anybody had experience of studying these modules, if so what did you think! and 2. How flexible are the teachers if you have studied something before will they let you look at something else in more detail instead?
It's a bit of a pain because they advice you not to study what you have at A level but to fill their requiments I'm going to have too!

Sorry for the long question I'm just looking for some extra advice or information because at the moment I'm just going round in circles, everything sounds so interesting!

Thanks!
Reply 74
welshforever92
Hey, I was just wondering if any current history students could possibly give me some advice on the different courses?

I was wondering what exactly quantification paper involves. Iv'e read what the history website says but I dont quite understand how it fits with history. I was just wondering if anyone could give me an example of what sorts of things it involves. How much maths is it, and I guess what I'm wondering the most do you actually learn about any period of history when doing it or is it simply teaching you a different way to evaluate history?


The lecturer has changed since my year, but basically, we used statistical techniques to look at 19th-century data sets (Australian convict lists, British vs. Irish people living in London) and worked on testing hypotheses like whether there were wage differentials between them, or height differentials - and what that said about their health - or indeed what we could learn from their reported ages about their numeracy. As to maths, there's no actual pure maths, but if you've done A-level, it's very similar to S1 and S2, and fairly straightforward if you've done those. You don't really learn any history in particular, but that's not the point of Paper 4 - the same will be true of Approaches, Historiography or Foreign Text.

Also, I'm having a hard time picking which British and general papers to do! I understand that I have to take 1 module from each time period, but the only ones which cover the middle period are times which I have done for A-level. I know which modules I want to study next year, and so I have worked out that I need the combination of either british (300-1087) and general (1400-1650) or british(1500-1700) and general (370-900). Basically what I would like to know is, 1. Has anybody had experience of studying these modules, if so what did you think! and 2. How flexible are the teachers if you have studied something before will they let you look at something else in more detail instead?
It's a bit of a pain because they advice you not to study what you have at A level but to fill their requiments I'm going to have too!

Sorry for the long question I'm just looking for some extra advice or information because at the moment I'm just going round in circles, everything sounds so interesting!

Thanks!


What's wrong with British 1042-1330, or General 1000-1300 (both of which count as your medieval paper) or with doing a modern paper in first year, then picking an early modern General paper in second year when they get much more specialised? I did none of the ones you're thinking of, but I think your mindset - "I've done this at A-level, can we have a week on something else?" - is the reason why tutors caution against doing A-level-like papers in first year; you're unlikely to have gained enough knowledge from A-level, or to remember enough if you have, to do well enough in an Oxford Prelims paper on it. If you can't do something entirely new, it's probably wise to throw yourself into your chosen paper as if it were from scratch, without relying too much on A-level knowledge.
rkd
The lecturer has changed since my year, but basically, we used statistical techniques to look at 19th-century data sets (Australian convict lists, British vs. Irish people living in London) and worked on testing hypotheses like whether there were wage differentials between them, or height differentials - and what that said about their health - or indeed what we could learn from their reported ages about their numeracy. As to maths, there's no actual pure maths, but if you've done A-level, it's very similar to S1 and S2, and fairly straightforward if you've done those. You don't really learn any history in particular, but that's not the point of Paper 4 - the same will be true of Approaches, Historiography or Foreign Text.



What's wrong with British 1042-1330, or General 1000-1300 (both of which count as your medieval paper) or with doing a modern paper in first year, then picking an early modern General paper in second year when they get much more specialised? I did none of the ones you're thinking of, but I think your mindset - "I've done this at A-level, can we have a week on something else?" - is the reason why tutors caution against doing A-level-like papers in first year; you're unlikely to have gained enough knowledge from A-level, or to remember enough if you have, to do well enough in an Oxford Prelims paper on it. If you can't do something entirely new, it's probably wise to throw yourself into your chosen paper as if it were from scratch, without relying too much on A-level knowledge.

K thanks! I cant do british 1042-1330 becasue it's nor available to me in the first year, and neither are the general or british modern papers that I want to do! I like the look of both the medieval papers I've narrowed it dow to, and so basically it's just deciding which one!
Reply 76
I know lots of you haven't got the reading materials as colleges are doing this at their own schedules. Well, but I've got mine. I'll be doing history and politics and have got three lists naming 12 books (including two latin texts for the foreign language paper) over the past few weeks. Generally, for those of you who have managed to survive your first years, did you read all books named on the reading lists? How helpful are they and how important is it to take down detailed notes? I've seen on the 'preparing for first year english' thread that people do not need to read all those mentioned on the reading list, does it also apply to history?
Thanks a lot!:woo:
Reply 77
do -not- read them all!
the point of history reading is to get you interested in it and stop your brain from shrivelling. pick one, maybe two books from each list which looks interesting, and don't read the whole thing - get the jist of the argument and read whichever bits seem interesting.

and if you're doing british history 1, don't read stenton.
I read a lot of them, but generally it confers no advantage.
Reply 79
elzeebub
do -not- read them all!
the point of history reading is to get you interested in it and stop your brain from shrivelling. pick one, maybe two books from each list which looks interesting, and don't read the whole thing - get the jist of the argument and read whichever bits seem interesting.

and if you're doing british history 1, don't read stenton.


Thanks. I'm doing General IV tho... :cool:

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