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Whats The Best Uni In Australia???

Ok do we have any people in Australia that can answer this one- whats the best university in australia, if needs be with reference to economics/business courses?

Thanks

Reply 1

Soumak

from what i have heard - monash is supposed to b the best. "harvard of australia."

Reply 2

Blates as

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Soumak

from what i have heard - monash is supposed to b the best. "harvard of australia."

Yeah I've heard the same. University of New South Wales, University of Queensland and University of Western Australia are the best of their respective states I think, not sure though....

Reply 3

beeblebrox87

According to the Times Higher Education Supplement rankings, Australian National University is the best, followed by Melbourne, Monash, Univ of New South Wales, and Sydney. Like all league tables this should be taken with a grain of salt though.

Reply 4

CNN Center

If you're not Australian and am looking for a quality university, then I think you only have ANU, UNSW, Univ. of Melbourne and Univ. of Sydney to choose from. According to my friend doing doctoral studies at Univ. of Melbourne, Monash is a joke.

Do not cite the Group of Eight as a validation of Monash's quality. The Group of Eight, unlike the Ivy League, is just a marketing tool.

Reply 5

evilcitizen

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I agree with CNN Center. The Group of Eight and all those magazine/world rankings of Australian universities are totally untrue. They have nothing to do with the reality of job recruiting in Australia.

The top three universities by far are University of New South Wales, Melbourne University, and University of Sydney (except for the Commerce program there which is not very good but benefits from the university's overall reputation). I would say that ANU is also okay, but not quite in the same league as the first three.

Reply 6

CNN Center

evilcitizen, you're right. Just look at the members of the Group of Eight. The main reason - if not the only reason - why they included Univ. of Western Australia is because they needed one from WA. It's sad.

Reply 7

danni_bella

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beeblebrox87

According to the Times Higher Education Supplement rankings, Australian National University is the best.

Woo!

Reply 8

danni_bella

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And yes it's good for economics too *apparently*, though I don't study it, I'm from another faculty.

Reply 9

heyheyhey

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What about Uni of Adelaide?Its meant to be a good one too

Reply 10

beeblebrox87

CNN Center

Do not cite the Group of Eight as a validation of Monash's quality. The Group of Eight, unlike the Ivy League, is just a marketing tool.

The Ivy League, like the Group of Eight, is just a marketing tool.
(Also a football conference, but that's even less relevant).

Reply 11

evilcitizen

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heyheyhey

What about Uni of Adelaide?Its meant to be a good one too

Nope, nowhere near the top three. The only thing that people might considering do there is alot of foreigners do the postgrad medicine program if they can't get into north american med schools.

Reply 12

heyheyhey

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evilcitizen

Nope, nowhere near the top three. The only thing that people might considering do there is alot of foreigners do the postgrad medicine program if they can't get into north american med schools.

Haha, well in South Australia Uni of Adelaide is meant to be THE good/posh uni etc. and also i know this isnt really the point, but how important is it if its not near the top 3? because most of the ppl who study there are going to stay in SA anyway, so i suppose the employers would rather look at how the uni ranks within the state rather than nationally?

Reply 13

vivado

evilcitizen

The top three universities by far are University of New South Wales, Melbourne University, and University of Sydney (except for the Commerce program there which is not very good but benefits from the university's overall reputation). I would say that ANU is also okay, but not quite in the same league as the first three.

Intriquing. Any supporting evidence for your last statement on ANU?

I've done research on the rankings of Australian universities by varied sources such as Asiaweek, Melbourne Institute, Times Higher Education Supplement et al. as a student assistant, and I can tell you that ANU tops the table for all the rankings. On an unrelated note, ANU and Monash have good debating teams too (by virtue of their performance in international debating competitions). And I've met a rather good maths student in Australia who was at ANU, though that is, in itself, in no way indicative of the whole ANU population and the university of course.

EDIT: Below are the URLs of some of the sources.

http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/features/universities2000/schools/multi.overall.html
http://www.melbourneinstitute.com/publications/reports/aus_uni/ExecSumm.pdf

Reply 14

finnstar

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Yup.. monash is one of the best. the monash malaysia campus is fantastic.

Reply 15

vivado

finnstar

Yup.. monash is one of the best. the monash malaysia campus is fantastic.

Monash is okay I would say. In terms of population, Australia is a small country. If you're really good, you have to be in the top 3 unis at least, not the top 8.

Reply 16

ThunderCat8

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Well, according to my Australian friend who I live with, ANU is the top, but Canberra is a hole and should be avoided at all costs. He says the best by far is Sydney Uni as it has a great reputation and is in the world's finest city.

He really hates Canberra, having lived there for most of his life. I don't like the sound of the place at all! Sydney sounds fantastic, I am envious of him!! (but Newcastle upon Tyne does rival it in many ways don't you think!!)

Reply 17

evilcitizen

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vivado

Intriquing. Any supporting evidence for your last statement on ANU?

I've done research on the rankings of Australian universities by varied sources such as Asiaweek, Melbourne Institute, Times Higher Education Supplement et al. as a student assistant, and I can tell you that ANU tops the table for all the rankings. On an unrelated note, ANU and Monash have good debating teams too (by virtue of their performance in international debating competitions). And I've met a rather good maths student in Australia who was at ANU, though that is, in itself, in no way indicative of the whole ANU population and the university of course.

EDIT: Below are the URLs of some of the sources.

http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/features/universities2000/schools/multi.overall.html
http://www.melbourneinstitute.com/publications/reports/aus_uni/ExecSumm.pdf

ANU is good for research, if you want to do a PhD then go there.

But if you want to get a job at any of the top companies (and I assume that's what we're talking about, since we're talking about the best universities, not just okay unis) then realistically you should only go to UNSW, Sydney Uni, or Melbourne.

My opinion is simply based on "where do companies recruit?" I'm not taking anything else into account since that becomes very subjective.

Reply 18

danni_bella

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ThunderCat8

Well, according to my Australian friend who I live with, ANU is the top, but Canberra is a hole and should be avoided at all costs. He says the best by far is Sydney Uni as it has a great reputation and is in the world's finest city.

He really hates Canberra, having lived there for most of his life. I don't like the sound of the place at all! Sydney sounds fantastic, I am envious of him!! (but Newcastle upon Tyne does rival it in many ways don't you think!!)

Lol! Omg, so tru, but at least there's no distractions when you're over here! I save all my shopping/clubbing/beach hanging out until the hols, therefore I get my work done :wink:

But yeah you're friend's right! :p:

What's his name (you can PM it to me)? Did he go to the ANU?

ANU is the top uni in Australia, and top 16th in the world according to some academics. I know b/c I travelled all the way from Melbourne to study here, big effort for a city princess like myself :biggrin:

Reply 19

vivado

evilcitizen

ANU is good for research, if you want to do a PhD then go there.

But if you want to get a job at any of the top companies (and I assume that's what we're talking about, since we're talking about the best universities, not just okay unis) then realistically you should only go to UNSW, Sydney Uni, or Melbourne.

My opinion is simply based on "where do companies recruit?" I'm not taking anything else into account since that becomes very subjective.

You claim that "taking anything else into account" other than "where do companies recruit?" is subjective. So companies' recruitment is an objective reflection of the quality of universities? I beg to differ. For all we know, "companies" (which you do not identify) may not have perfect knowledge and may have used their own personal criteria in judging which universities are the best, i.e. they are relying on their own subjective notions and could be constrained by their locations in hiring graduates who live too far off, and all sorts of other reasons.

If 'the best' universities, according to you, are those which produce the most employable graduates, then - alas! - Oxbridge aren't the best universities for General Engineering in the UK despite their top rankings in the Guardian's table and Times' table but Umist and Loughborough because they happened to score more employability points!

Better employability doesn't mean that the university has a more rigourous course, more faculty resources, peers who are passionate about their subject and whom you can learn from, good professors and a conducive learning environment (factors which are important as well in my opinion and have to be taken into account) unfortunately.

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