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    Perhaps TSR should introduce a sarcasm emoticon or maybe sarcasm [tags]. I'd be happy to critique the PS, but don't mind me if i ramble on about fat turning into muscle.

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    Whoa this has gone a bit off-topic.

    Whilst it's up to loopz to decide who she listens too, I agree with sarky. The advice of current med students is going to be far more valuable than just random people.

    Whilst non-med students might be able to give non-specific advice, remember you should ask yourselves if you're really qualified to give advice on this.
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    (Original post by LH)
    Whoa this has gone a bit off-topic.

    Whilst it's up to loopz to decide who she listens too, I agree with sarky. The advice of current med students is going to be far more valuable than just random people.

    Whilst non-med students might be able to give non-specific advice, remember you should ask yourselves if you're really qualified to give advice on this.
    Yes i know sarky has a valid point. Although I have sent my PS to people who have asked, I am intrigued as to their advice, taking it is in no way a foregone conclusion.
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    (Original post by LH)
    Whoa this has gone a bit off-topic.

    Whilst it's up to loopz to decide who she listens too, I agree with sarky. The advice of current med students is going to be far more valuable than just random people.

    Whilst non-med students might be able to give non-specific advice, remember you should ask yourselves if you're really qualified to give advice on this.
    I fully agree with your 1st para. But is ANYONE qualified? nope, a personal statement is a personal statement, anyone good at writing can critique and suggest. As for the content, yup, a medic advising a medicine applicant is obviously preferable, but are they 'qualified'? no. No-one minus a FEW eg. those who have graduated. ie. pig, chemistboy etc. is actually qualified.

    Anyway, Loopz, e-good luck.
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    (Original post by erk)
    I fully agree with your 1st para. But is ANYONE qualified? nope, a personal statement is a personal statement, anyone good at writing can critique and suggest. As for the content, yup, a medic advising a medicine applicant is obviously preferable, but are they 'qualified'? no. No-one minus a FEW eg. those who have graduated. ie. pig, chemistboy etc. is actually qualified.

    Anyway, Loopz, e-good luck.
    How does graduating make someone more qualified to offer advice on a PS? Firstly, it's at least 4 years since they applied so the application requirements may have changed; and secondly, the application process is not fresh in their mind.
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    "Having the appropriate qualifications for an office, position, or task."

    "To make legally capable; license"

    I guess it's how you understand the word 'qualified'.

    How does being a medical student make you anymore qualified than anyone else? yes, as said, you have the EXPERIENCE, but then we'd be arguing about whether experience = qualification.

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    (Original post by timeofyourlife)
    How does graduating make someone more qualified to offer advice on a PS? Firstly, it's at least 4 years since they applied so the application requirements may have changed; and secondly, the application process is not fresh in their mind.
    where did you get your quote from?? did you make it up? I've looked through all the posts on this thread, it isn't here! :cool:
    But I totally agree with what you are saying.
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    i removed it because i couldn't be arsed to e-argue, but timeofyourlife was obviously planning his response (for ages :rolleyes: ) or used his e-power.
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    (Original post by erk)
    "Having the appropriate qualifications for an office, position, or task."

    "To make legally capable; license"

    I guess it's how you understand the word 'qualified'.
    What are you banging on about? Ask a qualified doctor about personal statement advice and they're more likely stare at your blankly, medical students are more likely to remember their experience with admissions tutors, and a lot of us even take part in the interviewing process.

    How does being a medical student make you anymore qualified than anyone else? yes, as said, you have the EXPERIENCE, but then we'd be arguing about whether experience = qualification.
    erm..

    1) this person is applying for medicine, we are studying medicine.

    2) the medical students on this forum have helped people with statements before and have provided some really good input.

    3) i take an active interest in the admissions procedure and i know some of the medic girls on here do as well.

    4) i work with sixth forum students to aid their medicine application as part of a teaching programme with the med school.

    ergo, we're more qualified to give advice than someone that isn't studying it. i'm not saying any other input isn't important, far from it; i'm merely addressing the points you've made.
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    (Original post by Elles)
    that said, i also see Loopz's point about even if people aren't they can offer another perspective.. & Manatee does seem quite aware she's not a medic! (& as i remember has had a reasonable amount of applying to uni experience & applications in general? )
    I'm only too aware of my inexperience in things medical and have no intention of pretending otherwise! I do think that it can be helpful to get general comments from people outside one's field, though. As Elles has kindly pointed out, I have reasonable experience of UCAS applications, having just gone through the process for the second time (on both occasions successfully, I might add). Also, being a sad lawyer means that I spend a lot of my time proofreading (which, even more sadly, I actually quite enjoy). So while I may not be able to offer advice on specific medical points, I can certainly comment on general structure/grammar/spelling/readability.

    I do understand where Sarky is coming from. However, I'm sure Loopz is sensible enough to take from any non-medic comments what she feels is valid, and to ignore the rest. The more opinions, the better, surely? Unfortunately I suspect that this thread might put off non-specialists from volunteering in the future - no-one wants to be put down for offering to help.
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    i'm just amazed i had kind of an argument and two mods in here!!! :adore:

    so far i've been told the first paragraph ..erm, needs changing and most "proof readers" have said they'll get back to me oh well plenty of time!
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    I did originally delete all the off-topic posts but then I restored them cos I don't want to censor people unnecessarily.
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    (Original post by Loopz)
    yes i think i understood, and i am quite intelligent enough to apply to medicine so I think i won't "take everything that is offered as the gospel."
    I am sure you didn't want to reduce this to some sort of argument, but i feel intimidated/belittled, thanks.
    better advice i think comes from ucas itself, get as many friends/ family read and comment over your ps as poss. Lots of people with no idea of medicine will be able to help in other ways to suggest ways to produce a powerful statement, but always keep it personal.

    And I'm certain everybody who has submitted a ps will have benefitted from the help of people who have no direct association with their subject.

    I'm a bit dismayed at the severity of advice on this topic, and hope there are no connections here with bodies offering professional ps assistance, whose offerings admission tutors claim can be seen a mile off.
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    well im going to kings for med in september so you can send it to me and ill read it when i have some spare time
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    (Original post by MrsJones)
    I'm a bit dismayed at the severity of advice on this topic, and hope there are no connections here with bodies offering professional ps assistance, whose offerings admission tutors claim can be seen a mile off.
    no i don't think there are any professionals here, just people taking things too far :stupid: :rolleyes:
 
 
 
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