America 'To Ditch' Iran Missile Shield Plan Watch

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What are your views on this?
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I call Godwin's Law.
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I'm glad.

Though I still don't quite see how a missile defense system could have been any kind of threat to Russia...
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Ok, I am an American, lived here my entire life and I'm only going to move to Britain soon for school. Let me tell you what a mistake the American people made by electing Barack Obama. The guy had less than 2 years in the American Senate befor deciding to run for President. I'm sorry, but fancy talk and a European celebrity tour doesn't mean crap. At least Bush had the right idea when it came to international defense and all Obama wants to do is spend trillions of dollars in deficit spending with huge opposition. Many say Bush was stupid but in fact he went to Yale and attained higher grades than any of his opponents for the presidency. The guy just wasn't too great at public speech and lost a lot of credibility for it. They need better missile defense regardless of where the Iranians are in development simply because we need to make the preemptive move now to be prepared when they have the means to attack. Btw, Obama's approval rating is already far below where Bush's was at this point in time and he has little chance of reelection.
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Ok, I am an American, lived here my entire life and I'm only going to move to Britain soon for school. Let me tell you what a mistake the American people made by electing Barack Obama. The guy had less than 2 years in the American Senate befor deciding to run for President. I'm sorry, but fancy talk and a European celebrity tour doesn't mean crap. At least Bush had the right idea when it came to international defense and all Obama wants to do is spend trillions of dollars in deficit spending with huge opposition. Many say Bush was stupid but in fact he went to Yale and attained higher grades than any of his opponents for the presidency. The guy just wasn't too great at public speech and lost a lot of credibility for it. They need better missile defense regardless of where the Iranians are in development simply because we need to make the preemptive move now to be prepared when they have the means to attack. Btw, Obama's approval rating is already far below where Bush's was at this point in time and he has little chance of reelection.
Bush went to Yale because his daddy had connections and a lot of money. Bush then went on to graduate in the bottom quarter of his class.

Barack Obama on the other hand achieved Magna *** Laude at Yale.

Also, Obama's approval rating is in the 40s compared to Bush's which ended in the low 20s. And on top of that, Obama's approval rating is lower now than Bush's was at this time because Bush didn't have any problems to deal with that early in his presidency.

And don't even get me started on deficit spending.

Finally, my relatives live in Temecula. They're big Bush lovers too.
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Ok, I am an American, lived here my entire life and I'm only going to move to Britain soon for school. Let me tell you what a mistake the American people made by electing Barack Obama. The guy had less than 2 years in the American Senate befor deciding to run for President. I'm sorry, but fancy talk and a European celebrity tour doesn't mean crap. At least Bush had the right idea when it came to international defense and all Obama wants to do is spend trillions of dollars in deficit spending with huge opposition. Many say Bush was stupid but in fact he went to Yale and attained higher grades than any of his opponents for the presidency. The guy just wasn't too great at public speech and lost a lot of credibility for it. They need better missile defense regardless of where the Iranians are in development simply because we need to make the preemptive move now to be prepared when they have the means to attack. Btw, Obama's approval rating is already far below where Bush's was at this point in time and he has little chance of reelection.


His idea of international 'defense' is why the whole world hates you.
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Btw, Obama's approval rating is already far below where Bush's was at this point in time and he has little chance of reelection.
I wonder why that could possibly be....what month are we in now....ah yes! At this point in Bush's presidency he was able to prove that he was worthy of being president and wouldn't take any ********. Obama hasn't had such a 'chance', not really. If you don't like Obama so much, send him over here! You'll soon learn what bad government is when you meet Gordon. And even moreso when 'Dave' gets into power.


As for the article - could go either way. If Iran develops its weapons and attacks eastern Europe, we'll all go "****, bad decision." If they start building nuclear powerstations, we'll all go "nice one Obama!" Double edged sword, like shooting a suspected terrorist who later turns out to be innocent.
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Bush didn't have any problems to deal with that early in his presidency.
Think. What month are we in. Same time into both President's term and what happened to Bush...yeah.

But I agree with you on the whole, Obama ftw. Put anyone in charge during a global economic crisis and people expect results immediately, but it just aint gonna happen.
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Bush went to Yale because his daddy had connections and a lot of money. Bush then went on to graduate in the bottom quarter of his class.

Barack Obama on the other hand achieved Magna *** Laude at Yale.

Also, Obama's approval rating is in the 40s compared to Bush's which ended in the low 20s. And on top of that, Obama's approval rating is lower now than Bush's was at this time because Bush didn't have any problems to deal with that early in his presidency.

And don't even get me started on deficit spending.

Finally, my relatives live in Temecula. They're big Bush lovers too.

First of all, Obama didn't go to Yale, he went to Columbia and then Harvard. Also, Bush had higher grades than both Gore and Kerry so regardless of how he got in he wasn't the dumbass everyone says he is. I'm not a Bush lover, I promise that, but I hate the way America is turning on this hell-bent socialism trend which the MAJORITY of the nation does NOT support. Wait till the 2010 midterms. Back to the topic, defense against an Iranian nuclear program or ballistic missile possibility is a necessity regardless of how far along we may "think" Iran is. Just throwing this out there, you from San Diego?
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First of all, Obama didn't go to Yale, he went to Columbia and then Harvard. Also, Bush had higher grades than both Gore and Kerry so regardless of how he got in he wasn't the dumbass everyone says he is. I'm not a Bush lover, I promise that, but I hate the way America is turning on this hell-bent socialism trend which the MAJORITY of the nation does NOT support. Wait till the 2010 midterms. Back to the topic, defense against an Iranian nuclear program or ballistic missile possibility is a necessity regardless of how far along we may "think" Iran is. Just throwing this out there, you from San Diego?
Pardon, I meant Harvard. In any case, Obama graduated near the top of his class. Bush, near the bottom. Also, Kerry and Bush had relatively similar grades, but Kerry was actually involved in tons of activities and was a major leader on campus.

And how are we hellbent on socialism exactly?


And yeah, I'm from San Diego. Vista to be exact.
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Think. What month are we in. Same time into both President's term and what happened to Bush...yeah.

But I agree with you on the whole, Obama ftw. Put anyone in charge during a global economic crisis and people expect results immediately, but it just aint gonna happen.
Right, it's September. Ha. My mind lags a little when it comes to the time of year.

In any case, 9/11 was a problem that boosted his popularity, simply because a nation angry and frightened after an attack is likely to rally behind their leader no matter what.
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Right, it's September. Ha. My mind lags a little when it comes to the time of year.

In any case, 9/11 was a problem that boosted his popularity, simply because a nation angry and frightened after an attack is likely to rally behind their leader no matter what.
That's exactly the point I was making in my original post, I just wanted you to realise Bush did suffer a problem before this guy ripped into you! Haha.
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His idea of international 'defense' is why the whole world hates you.
couldnt have said it better
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That's exactly the point I was making in my original post, I just wanted you to realise Bush did suffer a problem before this guy ripped into you! Haha.
lol, yeah. For some reason I still see Obama as brand new in his presidency. Even though he pretty much is. But his approval rating was on the decline from day one, simply because people were expecting a magical and automatic fix to all their problems.
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lol, yeah. For some reason I still see Obama as brand new in his presidency. Even though he pretty much is. But his approval rating was on the decline from day one, simply because people were expecting a magical and automatic fix to all their problems.
Exactly. These things take time! Frankly, Obama seems a much, MUCH better president than Bush from the outside at least - simply because he's much less rash. But then, most of Bush's rash decisions - on security anyway - came from 9/11, so...

http://sendables.jibjab.com/originals/hes_barack_obama

That pretty much sums up the expectations on Obama.
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YES.
YES.
YES.

Oh my God, YES.

It was stupid ******* idea in the first place that caused insane amounts of unneeded tension in the region. It was silly that Russia felt 10 anti-missiles were a 'threat' to it's own security, but it was a silly idea in the first place, sparked from the embers of a dying Bush administration.
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Btw, Obama's approval rating is already far below where Bush's was at this point in time and he has little chance of reelection.
In the aftermath of 9/11, GWB's approval rating jumped by about 40% in the space of a month to the highest level any president has had in polling history. It's hardly surprising that Obama isn't anywhere near the approval rating his predecessor had in the aftermath of the biggest terrorist attack in the country's history.
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Europe is not a playground for Russia and the US, so I'm glad to see this resolution.
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Ultimately Russia is viewing this as a victory of its belligerent foreign policy over the last four years, many people think this is a good thing but I think now they have pushed the US on one issue then other issues such as democracy and human rights in Russia as well as NATO enlargement will be their next targets.

Russia also needs to realise it shouldn't be supplying enemies of the free world namely Iran and Venezuela.
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Ok, I am an American, lived here my entire life and I'm only going to move to Britain soon for school. Let me tell you what a mistake the American people made by electing Barack Obama. The guy had less than 2 years in the American Senate befor deciding to run for President. I'm sorry, but fancy talk and a European celebrity tour doesn't mean crap. At least Bush had the right idea when it came to international defense and all Obama wants to do is spend trillions of dollars in deficit spending with huge opposition. Many say Bush was stupid but in fact he went to Yale and attained higher grades than any of his opponents for the presidency. The guy just wasn't too great at public speech and lost a lot of credibility for it. They need better missile defense regardless of where the Iranians are in development simply because we need to make the preemptive move now to be prepared when they have the means to attack. Btw, Obama's approval rating is already far below where Bush's was at this point in time and he has little chance of reelection.
:yep: Go on defend Bush. You are digging your own grave.
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