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    Did anybody watch this BBC2...what did you think?

    especially to those who have views that many muslims are radical and want war.... and those who have anti-muslim feelings at all

    ...if anyone didn't catch it heres a summary

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/progra.../islamic.shtml
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    (Original post by jiggaman7)
    Did anybody watch this BBC2...what did you think?

    especially to those who have views that many muslims are radical and want war.... and those who have anti-muslim feelings at all

    ...if anyone didn't catch it heres a summary

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/progra.../islamic.shtml
    I watched it with my family. We were moved to tears for much of it. How those that represent authority can be so self-righteous against those that are oppressed is what really depressed us.

    But then again I come from a family that is indignant to say the least, about oppression against those who have not the 'might' to defend themselves.
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    (Original post by yawn)
    I watched it with my family. We were moved to tears for much of it. How those that represent authority can be so self-righteous against those that are oppressed is what really depressed us.

    But then again I come from a family that is indignant to say the least, about oppression against those who have not the 'might' to defend themselves.
    were moved to tears for much of it
    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
    How those that represent authority can be so self-righteous against those that are oppressed is what really depressed us.
    Yes it is wrong what tony blair and his cronies are doing to the BNP.
    Banning us from the police force and prison service bassed on the colour of our politics.
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    (Original post by LC01)
    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    Yes it is wrong what tony blair and his cronies are doing to the BNP.
    Banning us from the police force and prison service bassed on the colour of our politics.
    please dont post in this thread with comments like that....you have a BNP thread to talk rubbish in dont do it here again or il get a mod to delete ur post for its irrelevance
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    (Original post by yawn)
    I watched it with my family. We were moved to tears for much of it. How those that represent authority can be so self-righteous against those that are oppressed is what really depressed us.

    But then again I come from a family that is indignant to say the least, about oppression against those who have not the 'might' to defend themselves.
    thanks i agree too, although being a muslim myself i do believe that as a whole we do need to integrate a little more..eg not be at airports in traditional dress if possible....

    ....but the bit about the guy not getting a job made me angry and worried for my future
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    Banning us from the police force and prison service bassed on the colour of our politics.
    Rather than any contempt for your politics; I'd say its more to do with the fact that so many BNP are racist; and the kind of problems it would cause for the Met. Its more for the benefit of the country (positive) rather than anti-BNP (negative) surely...
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    It was very good. I love Salma Yaqoob. But that Osama Bin London guy was a total prick.
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    (Original post by Sleep)
    Rather than any contempt for your politics; I'd say its more to do with the fact that so many BNP are racist; and the kind of problems it would cause for the Met. Its more for the benefit of the country (positive) rather than anti-BNP (negative) surely...
    Officers that do there job are a benefit to the country. We live in a democracy, which means if you ban one political party from the police force you have to ban all the others to be fair.
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    (Original post by LC01)
    Officers that do there job are a benefit to the country. We live in a democracy, which means if you ban one political party from the police force you have to ban all the others to be fair.
    But most political parties don't have the rather distinct brand of white supremacy/British isolationist ideas, which could lead to unfair policing and prejudice against non-whites, something which is to be avoided.
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    (Original post by juueru_chou)
    But most political parties don't have the rather distinct brand of white supremacy/British isolationist ideas, which could lead to unfair policing and prejudice against non-whites, something which is to be avoided.
    Should we ban members of the labour party from joining because it could lead to unfair policing and prejudice against the upperclass?

    No one should be banned because of their political beliefs, as long as they dont take them beliefs to work with them.
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    (Original post by LC01)
    Should we ban members of the labour party from joining because it could lead to unfair policing and prejudice against the upperclass?

    No one should be banned because of their political beliefs, as long as they dont take them beliefs to work with them.
    Could you seperate your political beliefs from your work, if say you were working with some newly arrived immigrants or some second generation african-Britons?
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    (Original post by juueru_chou)
    Could you seperate your political beliefs from your work, if say you were working with some newly arrived immigrants or some second generation african-Britons?
    Yes I could, I am a polite person, if I did anything racist in the police force I should be sacked.
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    No one should be banned because of their political beliefs, as long as they dont take them beliefs to work with them.
    I don't believe socialists think that the upper class have any les right to be in this country or are any less capable of managing things than anyone else.
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    (Original post by LC01)
    Yes I could, I am a polite person, if I did anything racist in the police force I should be sacked.
    But surely you are not racist normally, so why would that be a problem, unless in fact you recognise that you are?
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    moving back to the program :P
    i think it was good that they did it and there were some truths in it
    didnt like the guy who said drinking alcohol and fitting in for his career was the right thing to do..
    you shouldnt have to compromise *shurgs*
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    (Original post by jiggaman7)
    please dont post in this thread with comments like that....you have a BNP thread to talk rubbish in dont do it here again or il get a mod to delete ur post for its irrelevance
    I think that would prove his point.
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    <<The comfortable middle ground is eroding as Muslims are asked to either accept the 'war on terror' and deny their heritage or become radicalised and condemned as 'terrorists'.>>

    which reads as, Muslims are asked to denounce and oppose terrorism and reject their heritage...

    How thoroughly testing for them.
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    (Original post by Vienna)
    I think that would prove his point.
    before you go off on one....i meant this thread is related to the programme only so i dont want to start having another rant about the BNP i want to specifically talk about the contents of the programme......so id appreciate it if people stopped it
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    (Original post by Vienna)
    <<The comfortable middle ground is eroding as Muslims are asked to either accept the 'war on terror' and deny their heritage or become radicalised and condemned as 'terrorists'.>>

    which reads as, Muslims are asked to denounce and oppose terrorism and reject their heritage...

    How thoroughly testing for them.
    yes it is actually....accepting the war on terror is hard because
    a)the reasons for it are obscure and the issues for war controversial
    b)its hard to accept a war in a fellow muslim country where you know that hundreds of thousands of innocent people will be killed and family lives destroyed

    thats whats meant by heritage...your origins and traditional culture and land of your relatives being bombed to pieces...not heritage as in islam...........

    and that quote means that you either have to accept the war on terror which is hard as i've said.....or otherwise be branded a terrorist and radical....mostly by people like you
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    man i watched it and couldnt stop laughing at some points.....especially from that Osama Bin London guy and guess what the funny thing is? I walked right past him 2 days ago when i went to Bond Street (right next door to Marble Arch) to go shopping....normally i would stop and see wot pamphlets they would be distributing and wot else they have to say (just for interest and amusement..well amusement sometimes!). I wish i did but i will speak to him next time and let him know wot i think of his STUPID views (im moving away here from my normal coherent and well reasoned approach).
    An example of this mans stupidity......"we are permitted to look only once at a woman....if she turns us on then we should go home and take it out on the wife!" I was like WTFFFF. But there u go! No lies frm me this is EXACTLY wot he said (pretty much word for word). Then there was the guy who had gone to the former Yugoslavia to help his muslim brothers in arms, near the end he was trying to justify the wearing of the Hijab by women. He mentioned that women are like a Noor (diamond) and that you should cover it, keep it safe from others, polish it etc.... MATE WOMEN/WIVES ARE NOT UR PROPERTY. (i can also go onto why i disagree with the Islamic reasons as to why women have to wear a Hijab but have already done so and it would be digressing on the thread here).
    But overall i thought the programme did justice to the Muslim/Minority (a little) voice.
    Mandeep
 
 
 
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