Diosgenin for PMS?

foods like soybeans, wild yams,dong quai etc are said to be high in diosgenin, a 'natural' plant progestrone, the one from which the Pill is derived. the body cannot digest this plant hormone but it is said to mimic human hormone very well that the body thinks it IS that hormone.

will it work for PMS? has anyone tried it?

Reply 1

Nicola1986

I take pleasure in PMS, if im having my period i think i deserve to be mean

Reply 2

missjelly

OP

ok but the other stuff like stomach cramps, sore breasts, spots, oily skin etc. i have heard that mimicing natural estrogen gives you fuller breasts and lips!

anyone knoe about any of this?

Reply 3

Nicola1986

Yeh thats the not so good part!

Reply 4

missjelly

OP

well? surely someone has tried Dong quai? im scared to because i have heard it has BAAAD effects and can give you weird cancers and endometriosis.
im leaning toward trying some wild yam pills though.
if i do, im going to post feedback!
but in the meantime has anyone else?

Reply 5

magiccarpet

2

actually i've been reading alot about this. im not certain about this- but in Vogue Beauty encyclopaedia it says taking additional progesterone ('natural' or otherwise) can hinder the effectiveness of contraception.
it also said taking too much progesterone can make your acne worsen.

however i eat many many soybeans as a veggie and i find it has slightly helped my PMS, and soybeans have diosgenin.

i also read an article saying dong quai is good for PMS NOT because of the disogenin (a plant progesterone which cannot be turned into human progesterone) but because it has slight ani-cramping effects

in many 'herbal breast enlargements' it includes diosgenin sources- fenugreek,yam,dong quai etc, as laboratory studies showed mice with ovaries removed had mammary growth when fed diosgenin, though this has not actually been proven in humans. (google this for more info)

i am going to try the wild yams from holland and barratt as im afraid of the risks of brest cancer from being on the pill so long

, but 3 is right- my doc says not to take any homeopathic remedies without seeking medical help- just because it is natural doesnt mean you will not react and i think messing about with hormones is a bit unsafe.

Reply 6

missjelly

OP

thanks carpet. i read the thing about the mice as well. but im going to try it anyway

Reply 7

eurasianfeline

13

there are other foods that contain plant progesterone as well, which have been proven in researches to relieve PMS symptoms.

i've listed some of them in the Period thread. *points to the huge sticky on top*

Reply 8

eurasianfeline

13

Soy comsumption through the diet or soy supplements could provide symptomatic relief, such as reduced hot flashes. Soy may provide long term health benefits as well, as soy appears to protect against bone loss and provide cardiovascular protection. Soy contains phytoestrogens, or naturally occurring oestrogen-like compounds. These compounds are also found in other food sources such as legumes (pea family) & lignan containing foods such as cereals and grains.

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showpost.php?p=2234041&postcount=21

hope this would be useful. :smile:

PM me if you have anymore questions and also do take a look at the Period thread.

Reply 9

missjelly

OP

hi!
im going to look at that thread, but im worried about the stuff i've googled- some says plant estrogens (phytoestrogens) either have no effect on humans as the body cannot convert diosgenin to progesterone, and other stuff says that the body sometimes mistakes it for actual progesterone. but what carpet said, i also read too much progesterone can worsen acne and that oestrogen is the good stuff that gives you big breasts and lips and lighter regular periods. i read that people taking the POP pill have irregular periods. is this due to the higher levels of progesterone? and anyone know anything about the effect of phytoestrogen on FSH and LH levels during the cycle?

Reply 10

missjelly

OP

hey its me again. carpet or eurasian, did you try wild yam?

i've got some fenugreek extract from glenco's health shop. its supposed to be higher in diosgenin than wild yam. its actually supposed to be the highest. Fennel is high too. then again, they might have been saying all that to sell it to me!

anyways it was only £7.49 so i guess its worth a try!

Reply 11

eurasianfeline

13

missjelly

hey its me again. carpet or eurasian, did you try wild yam?

i've got some fenugreek extract from glenco's health shop. its supposed to be higher in diosgenin than wild yam. its actually supposed to be the highest. Fennel is high too. then again, they might have been saying all that to sell it to me!

anyways it was only £7.49 so i guess its worth a try!

sadly i've never seen it in hk...at least they're not in the supermarkets i go to. :rolleyes:

and i don't really suffer from any PMS or pain or anything...so i don't really need it. :p:

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