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    I think it depends on the person. The average number of lessons amongst the people I know is about 30 hours. But there are people I know who have passed after like 10 lessons, and those who have taken about 60. I probably took about 35-40 as well as going out with my dad, and passed second time. I only know of one person who took anywhere near 100, and they passed first time . I think the recommended amount is 45 hours.

    My lessons were £23 each, but it's probably more cos i'm near London. I hated driving lessons so much, but now I've passed driving is fun
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    (Original post by AT82)
    this is becuase insuring a car without a full licence is extremely expensive especialy if you're male.
    my insurance company didn't even ask to know when i passed my test. if you're a young driver, you're a young driver, whether you're on a provisional or not. And probably you're safer on a provisional because there'll always be someone with you!
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    I think the amount of traffic makes a huge difference as well, in big cities you have always got constant hassle, schools, idiots etc. In quieter towns you only really get the traffic in the town centre, there isn't that constant amount of stress.

    The reason I gave up was I suddenly realised that I had full independance without a car and that a car wouldn#t really improve my quality of life enough to make the costs worth while. I coulnd't afford a car if even if I needed one, and if I worked in the city centre I would have to get the bus anyway.
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    (Original post by allisandro)
    my insurance company didn't even ask to know when i passed my test. if you're a young driver, you're a young driver, whether you're on a provisional or not. And probably you're safer on a provisional because there'll always be someone with you!
    I got quote for £6000 a year to add me to my dads insurnace policy. He has a 10 year old 95bhp 1.6 Zetec Escort, hardly a sports car.
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    (Original post by AT82)
    I got quote for £6000 a year to add me to my dads insurnace policy. He has a 10 year old 95bhp 1.6 Zetec Escort, hardly a sports car.
    well...that is a crazy quote! shop around. anyway, surely that's a quote to add a new, young driver? it would be the same if you'd passed your test or not.
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    The best way to practice is to find a huge empty car park, late at night. Somewhere like ASDA, Costco etc. They're car parks are massive and have little roads going through and around, plus you can obviously practice parking :rolleyes: . Yeah, I learned how to drive on an automatic at first ,then a manual when I was 15, before I started the driving course. All the cars they used were in an auto. Learning a manual was a lot easier after I learned on an auto since I already gained a lot of confidence behind the wheel, only thing I had to concentrate on was clutch control.

    As fars the cops are concerned, I've never been somewhere where there has been less cops on patrol. I can count on one hand how many times I've seen a car pulled over in this country, and I've been here for over three years. Whereas in America, you can see up to 10-12 cars pulled over in one night. People get really nervous around cop cars there because they look and wait for you to mess up or any reason they can stop you. I got a ticket once for no insurance and it was $500 :eek:.

    Oh, and I've heard all the horror stories about the insurance over here. Multiple thousands of pounds for a ridiculously small engined eco car. My first car, when I was 16, was a 235bhp 5.0L V8 Mustang. My insurance was $1800 a year (~£1000). But on my mom's '98 1.6 105bhp Honda Civic, it was a whopping $360 a year (~£190)!!!

    It's a damn shame, you guys are getting robbed. Wait, I'm over here too, *kicks self*
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    (Original post by snmichaels)
    As fars the cops are concerned, I've never been somewhere where there has been less cops on patrol. I can count on one hand how many times I've seen a car pulled over in this country, and I've been here for over three years.
    Do you drive around the streets of London!?! Last night, I saw the same guy pull 2 cars over a one hour period. Second one made me laugh cos the cop was going all over the car counting the defects - there are so many cars in London that have so many things wrong with them and are so obviously not MOT'd, taxed, insured, etc.
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    I had 25 hours of lessons but it took me 3 attempts before i passed, it's so easy to get a major! I'm not sure whether it's just that the examiners here are gits or if everyone finds it hard but most of my friends took at leas 3 tests to pass.
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    I don't think I've ever heard of anyone not passing the first time in america, it's so stupidly easy. And there are no "L" plates

    Yeah, I drive in London everyday. Not so much central, but west london. It's just so rare that I see people get stopped. I've never been stopped. I had 15 traffic violations from the age of 16 to 18 in the states (nothing to be proud of, but damnit, I am ). Might be due to the car I was driving and what I was doing whilst driving more than where I was :rolleyes:. The cops are harsh over there. I actually feel I can trust most cops here, it's a wierd new feeling.
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    (Original post by AT82)
    I got quote for £6000 a year to add me to my dads insurnace policy. He has a 10 year old 95bhp 1.6 Zetec Escort, hardly a sports car.
    That's crazy! It only cost a few hundred to add me to my mums insurance. My insurance now is only £800 for my own car!
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    I live in Barbados, which is a very small Island in the Caribbean. The majority of ppl here learn to driver way before there time [which is illgal but who cares] what we do is look for a preson with an old car [RWD] buy it for around $100 [£ 33.3] find a canefield and learn to drive on the cart roads, but this is just practice for other events, because here in Barbados you don't got have a drivers licence to drive in some motosport events, like circuit racing, dexterities ect but must hae one for road rallies.
    All the above makes the driven test alot easier because you already have the skill, but you still have to do a lesson to get you farmiliar with the roads.
    Did one lesson and got my licence within a month, was a waste of time though cause I don't
    drive on the road, prefer to go sideways in a canefield. :driver:
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    (Original post by snmichaels)
    I don't think I've ever heard of anyone not passing the first time in america, it's so stupidly easy. And there are no "L" plates

    Yeah, I drive in London everyday. Not so much central, but west london. It's just so rare that I see people get stopped. I've never been stopped. I had 15 traffic violations from the age of 16 to 18 in the states (nothing to be proud of, but damnit, I am ). Might be due to the car I was driving and what I was doing whilst driving more than where I was :rolleyes:. The cops are harsh over there. I actually feel I can trust most cops here, it's a wierd new feeling.
    Ah, I drive mostly east edges of the City, Docklands and South London so there's plenty of traffic stops and drugs busts always going on...!

    I've been pulled once for going through a no right turn (*******s), but never had any speeding tickets and I speed everywhere!
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    (Original post by ~Sam~)
    That's crazy! It only cost a few hundred to add me to my mums insurance. My insurance now is only £800 for my own car!
    You're a girl though! Us guys get bum-raped for insurance. My first year was quoted at something like £2500. Still, to get added to my mum's Fiesta when I was learning was something like £67
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    I try to speed. But it's damn near impossible in this city. Still, I find a way :burnout:
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    I when I get a job i am going to buy a car a cheap Fiesta and learn in that, I find a insurnace company who are more friendly towards younger drivers. Although I will be 23 anyway.

    I am not paying for any more lessons, what I need now is practise, I already know how to drive perfectly, I have been at test standard, its just I haven't driven for years so I will be rusty. I am not paying £20 an hour for some bald old twonk to tell me to put my hand brake on.
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    Late at night is the way. Or weaving between traffic :laugh:
 
 
 
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