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What do Finance employers think of City university?

I understand that it is an ex polytechnic university but do employers look down on that even though I heard from a couple of people that it's a finance type university therefore employers may like that?

I would also like to know, if you know anyone, what companies graduates go to once they leave there with a Maths based related degree.

I am trying to decide between City, Queen Mary or Liverpool...
Just City? Cos its Business School - Cass is very well known and regarded by employers.
Reply 2
Superman_Jr
I understand that it is an ex polytechnic university but do employers look down on that even though I heard from a couple of people that it's a finance type university therefore employers may like that?


City was never a polytechnic. It was established in the early 20th century to provide education to the local residents/those from lower social classes in particular and had charitable foundations (but then so were prestigious public schools and other universities). But this is not what a polytechnic was. Students studied for University of London degrees and it achieved its Royal Charter and formal university status in the 60s (same decade as Warwick, York, Newcastle, UEA and many others).

It is well known for its professional courses especially the postgrad programmes offered at CASS business school.
Probably higher than they think of QM or L'pool. Especially if you can lie about your degree being from Cass because some of your modules were taught me Cass people etc :wink:
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City was never an Ex poly.

I would rate it higher than QMUL and Liverpool for getting jobs in the City, they do placement years which help a lot.

Seriously OP, I'm in the same boat as you, either City or QMUL as insurance for Econ, I'm going for City, I'd rather study there than Mile end, get a placement, earn around 20K, pay for my MSc with that cash at CASS/LSE/Oxbridge/UCL/Warwick/LBS etc
Reply 5
What is the grade requirement for Accounting and finance in City Uni?
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Reply 7
If you went to the Banking & Finance fair today you would have been able to see firsthand what finance employers think of City. There were loads of respectable employers there, from ACCA, Bloomberg, Barclays Capital, KPMG, Nomura, , PwC, Credit Suisse, Watson Wyatt and loads more
Reply 8
Zweihander
If you went to the Banking & Finance fair today you would have been able to see firsthand what finance employers think of City. There were loads of respectable employers there, from ACCA, Bloomberg, Barclays Capital, KPMG, Nomura, , PwC, Credit Suisse, Watson Wyatt and loads more


Wow, top employers there! Is the Banking and finance fair open to everyone at City including cass students. Also are you at cass?
Reply 9
hamzab
Wow, top employers there! Is the Banking and finance fair open to everyone at City including cass students. Also are you at cass?


Yes, I'm at Cass doing IFRM. The fair was open to all City students, and if you go to http://www.city.ac.uk/careers/events/ you can see the list of other fairs and events in the future.
Reply 10
Zweihander
Yes, I'm at Cass doing IFRM. The fair was open to all City students, and if you go to http://www.city.ac.uk/careers/events/ you can see the list of other fairs and events in the future.


Nice, yes Im confused on wether to apply for a course at Cass or not. I'm puting City as my insurance as they only need ABB. But as for Cass, I feel as if their courses are too specialised, I think I may apply for it at MSc level as I'm not sure I want to go into Banking/finance straight away, want to maybe further study Economics/Development Econ and Economic History/International Relations.

I had the exact same problem as OP, either City or Queen Mary, even though QM is Uni of London, I don't think it counts for a lot, the employers are impressed by UCL/LSE and to some extent Kings, but Queen Mary/Royal Holloway aren't exactly going to give the same effect as LSE/UCL. Plus QM's employment rates aren't the greatest, and I have to put up with Mile end.

How's your experience of City been? I've been on a tour/open day etc and heard from two or three students. It's not brillianty ranked but I think that's due to student satisfaction and the A level entry requirements aren't very high but they are getting higher, plus courses are becoming more popular. At the end of the day, it's graduates do brilliantly in the Job market and postgrad study is excellent as well with Cass/UCL/LSE nearby. Do you know how many people go to LSE/UCL/Oxbridge for postgrad from City.

Sorry for all the questions! :woo:
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I believe the title of this thread should be changed as it provides misleading information. City was never an ex-polytechnic and the thread title gives the wrong impression to anyone who doesn't bother to read all of the thread posts.
hamzab
Nice, yes Im confused on wether to apply for a course at Cass or not. I'm puting City as my insurance as they only need ABB. But as for Cass, I feel as if their courses are too specialised, I think I may apply for it at MSc level as I'm not sure I want to go into Banking/finance straight away, want to maybe further study Economics/Development Econ and Economic History/International Relations.


It depends on what you want to do after you graduate, tbh if you want to go into banking/finance you dont really have to do a finance related degree, just do a numerate degree like maths, physics, economics etc (the more difficult the better), but I wouldnt do Econ at City, there are much better places to do econ. Cass's undergraduate and postgrad programmes are held in high repute by employers, but it's the postgrad that get's the real attention. I myself thought Cass's degrees were too specialised, but then I figured if I did economics I would still probably end up working in business/finance anyway.

hamzab
I had the exact same problem as OP, either City or Queen Mary, even though QM is Uni of London, I don't think it counts for a lot, the employers are impressed by UCL/LSE and to some extent Kings, but Queen Mary/Royal Holloway aren't exactly going to give the same effect as LSE/UCL. Plus QM's employment rates aren't the greatest, and I have to put up with Mile end.


Trust me, in terms of reputation and employer opinion, a specialised degree from Cass will look much better than a broader degree from QM/RH. Especially considering that alot of business/finance employers target Cass for new graduates, whereas QM/RH dont receive half as much attention from business employers as Cass does.

hamzab
How's your experience of City been? I've been on a tour/open day etc and heard from two or three students. It's not brillianty ranked but I think that's due to student satisfaction and the A level entry requirements aren't very high but they are getting higher, plus courses are becoming more popular. At the end of the day, it's graduates do brilliantly in the Job market and postgrad study is excellent as well with Cass/UCL/LSE nearby. Do you know how many people go to LSE/UCL/Oxbridge for postgrad from City.


Cass is becoming more exclusive, I think the entry requirements for Actuarial Science and Accounting & Finance are AAA (higher than LSE), and all the rest are AAB, and I read something a while back about Cass being the best place in the country for Actuarial Science. In terms of teaching City doesnt offer the best (I mean it doesnt have the academic talent on offer at the likes of LSE/Oxbridge), but it's sufficient. In terms of what's on offer socially, it's not the best but there are lots of societies and extra-curricular things for you to do and there's always something different for you to do every week. One of City's strong points though is its Careers Service, it does have like the most graduate employees in the country and the careers services are always holding events and other things with employers in practically all degrees/disciplines, as well the other service they offer like mock interviews, CV help, professional placements, they help you find internships, and lots more.
Reply 13
Zweihander
It depends on what you want to do after you graduate, tbh if you want to go into banking/finance you dont really have to do a finance related degree, just do a numerate degree like maths, physics, economics etc (the more difficult the better), but I wouldnt do Econ at City, there are much better places to do econ. Cass's undergraduate and postgrad programmes are held in high repute by employers, but it's the postgrad that get's the real attention. I myself thought Cass's degrees were too specialised, but then I figured if I did economics I would still probably end up working in business/finance anyway.



Trust me, in terms of reputation and employer opinion, a specialised degree from Cass will look much better than a broader degree from QM/RH. Especially considering that alot of business/finance employers target Cass for new graduates, whereas QM/RH dont receive half as much attention from business employers as Cass does.



Cass is becoming more exclusive, I think the entry requirements for Actuarial Science and Accounting & Finance are AAA (higher than LSE), and all the rest are AAB, and I read something a while back about Cass being the best place in the country for Actuarial Science. In terms of teaching City doesnt offer the best (I mean it doesnt have the academic talent on offer at the likes of LSE/Oxbridge), but it's sufficient. In terms of what's on offer socially, it's not the best but there are lots of societies and extra-curricular things for you to do and there's always something different for you to do every week. One of City's strong points though is its Careers Service, it does have like the most graduate employees in the country and the careers services are always holding events and other things with employers in practically all degrees/disciplines, as well the other service they offer like mock interviews, CV help, professional placements, they help you find internships, and lots more.


Hmm... fair points, especially the one regarding Cass degrees being too finance orientated. Thats the thing though, I can't envisage me working in finance, accountancy is just too boring for me, same with banking, like consultancy and further study more lol

How is City for Economics, I know its not the creme de la creme, it doesn't come near UCL/LSE for reputation, they are UCL/LSE lol but I think they come just after the top 15, after the likes of Loughborough, York, Southampton, Birmingham, Manchester, (I would put City here), Queen Mary, Reading, East Anglia, Brunel etc... so a middle of the road Uni, but as you said it's one of the best for graduate employment, and all the Economics students I've talked to at City have gotten very good jobs, my friend just graduated, he was working at DB Mid Office and is now at a hedge fund, another is doing an MSc in Finance or International Relations at LSE, can't remember which, few went to Cass as they got a 15% discount or something off their MSc.

Yeh, I've heard the social scene at City being pretty dead, but it's a City university and in London so you're never far from something to do.

City Econ is my insurance anyway, but am I right in saying that you would put City Econ above Queen Mary Econ? City Econ wasn't in clearing at all, neither was Cass I belive, Queen Mary straight Econ was in clearing for 1-2 days and some variant courses were in clearing for quite a few days, I think the Econ and Geog/Econ and International development.
hamzab
Hmm... fair points, especially the one regarding Cass degrees being too finance orientated. Thats the thing though, I can't envisage me working in finance, accountancy is just too boring for me, same with banking, like consultancy and further study more lol


Let me flat out say if you dont want to work in business/finance dont go to Cass undergraduate, but if you want to work in consultancy the Cass postgrad offers a more varied range of courses than the undergrad programme, not to mention that Cass postgrad programme is one of the best in Europe.

hamzab
How is City for Economics, I know its not the creme de la creme, it doesn't come near UCL/LSE for reputation, they are UCL/LSE lol but I think they come just after the top 15, after the likes of Loughborough, York, Southampton, Birmingham, Manchester, (I would put City here), Queen Mary, Reading, East Anglia, Brunel etc... so a middle of the road Uni, but as you said it's one of the best for graduate employment, and all the Economics students I've talked to at City have gotten very good jobs, my friend just graduated, he was working at DB Mid Office and is now at a hedge fund, another is doing an MSc in Finance or International Relations at LSE, can't remember which, few went to Cass as they got a 15% discount or something off their MSc.


Your rankings are pretty much on the dot. If it's a successful career you want, you will go much further with a Cass degree than City econ degree, but seeing as you're not really into business/finance I would go somewhere with a better overall reputation (like Manchester or Birmingham).

hamzab
City Econ is my insurance anyway, but am I right in saying that you would put City Econ above Queen Mary Econ? City Econ wasn't in clearing at all, neither was Cass I belive, Queen Mary straight Econ was in clearing for 1-2 days and some variant courses were in clearing for quite a few days, I think the Econ and Geog/Econ and International development.


what's your firm? In terms of ranking, it would go: 1. any Cass degree, 2.City Econ, 3.QM Econ, but like I said if you want to do econ there are much better places to do it than City.
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Zweihander
Let me flat out say if you dont want to work in business/finance dont go to Cass undergraduate, but if you want to work in consultancy the Cass postgrad offers a more varied range of courses than the undergrad programme, not to mention that Cass postgrad programme is one of the best in Europe.



Your rankings are pretty much on the dot. If it's a successful career you want, you will go much further with a Cass degree than City econ degree, but seeing as you're not really into business/finance I would go somewhere with a better overall reputation (like Manchester or Birmingham).



what's your firm? In terms of ranking, it would go: 1. any Cass degree, 2.City Econ, 3.QM Econ, but like I said if you want to do econ there are much better places to do it than City.


My Firm is going to be either Oxford/Loughborough/SOAS, most liekly Loughborough as getting Oxford offer is hard and between SOAS and Lufbra I'd rather go to Lufbra.

Insurance will be City, pretty much decided that as don't like Queen Mary. My other Insurance will be Royal Holloway, good overall Uni and like the feel better than RH, but for careers, City is better.

So that's my 5, Oxford, Loughborough, SOAS, City, Royal Holloway. I've also considered Southampton/Birmingham and York instead of SOAS, City and Royal Holloway but City still has better career prospects then all of them, plus If I go to a Uni out of London, I'd rather be at a Campus-non-city based one.

A levels Im doing are Econ, Geog and Hist, predicted AAA/AAA* and AS Maths this year, will hopefully get A/B!

I'm thinking about Cass, but I still find it too specialised, I dunno, I might go to the open day on Saturday again to see Cass, my amte is applying for Acc and Fin.

HamzaB
Reply 16
Hey, I have got offers from:

1. MSc. Banking and International Finance – Cass Business School (OFFER)
2. MSc. Finance and Management – Exeter (OFFER)

Please help me decide which to select and which one will help me in terms of getting a job…also, I'm awaiting a response from Warwick for MSc. Finance (although I think its difficult to get it!).

Its a little urgent as the date for accepting the offer is almost here…please help!
Reply 17
Hi, I felt like this question could be answered by you guys seeing that you all seem very knowledgeable and experienced. I’m currently in my final year of studies and looking at potential bachelors. The BSC in mathematics and finance at City university has especially caught my eye. Would this be something good to study if I’m interested in finance business etc. and good at math (I thought the mathematics aspect might help me as it wouldn’t narrow down my career opportunities too much and as I heard it looks better than studying just finance although I really don’t know as I have no experience with this.) Any input, thoughts ideas etc. would be greatly appreciated.

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