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    The EU clearly has no right to demand anything of the British government. Banning a political party has nothing to do at all with the European Union. While I may not agree with the BNP, that is no reason to ban them. We should confront them and argue with them, not ban them, which will increase sympathy with them. In fact sometimes I wish that the EU would push for this, eroding what little trust the British people have in it. The EU is an undemocratic, bureacratic, socialist, anti Britsh organisation, and it will either have to reform and become merely a free trade zone or face the exit of Britain.
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    (Original post by Lord Waddell)
    The EU is an undemocratic, bureacratic, socialist, anti Britsh organisation...
    Rich coming from someone who would give their flesh and blood for an undemocratic head of state. I suppose thats conservatism :rolleyes:
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    The Queen isn't bureaucratic, socialist or anti-British, so we can forgive the first bit. Though, I do think she's excused even from that, since she would surely call it a day if nobody wanted her.
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    (Original post by JonD)
    The Queen isn't bureaucratic, socialist or anti-British, so we can forgive the first bit. Though, I do think she's excused even from that, since she would surely call it a day if nobody wanted her.
    by call it a day you mean retire from public life to live in the splendor of buildings and wealth that really are the heritage of the british people..?
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    (Original post by foolfarian)
    by call it a day you mean retire from public life to live in the splendor of buildings and wealth that really are the heritage of the british people..?
    Would you expect a republic to have to come about through violence?
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    (Original post by JonD)
    Would you expect a republic to have to come about through violence?
    no, but its not like they would gladly give up the trimmings of their inherited tax free wealth.
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    (Original post by thebucketwoman)
    You're the only person I know that could manage to twist that story into a pro-BNP argument.
    It doesnt take much does it? Any half-t*it with no brains can....I mean they are BNP supporters after all...
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    (Original post by zaf1986)
    Rich coming from someone who would give their flesh and blood for an undemocratic head of state. I suppose thats conservatism :rolleyes:
    Some people just dont use their brains but are very good at reading tabloids...and thats why they come up with some amazing contradictions like that...
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    (Original post by Alexdel)
    It doesnt take much does it? Any half-t*it with no brains can....I mean they are BNP supporters after all...
    And I suppose you are captain IQ level.
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    banning the bnp would poush them underground turning them more extreme, thats what i think anyway
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    (Original post by zaf1986)
    Rich coming from someone who would give their flesh and blood for an undemocratic head of state. I suppose thats conservatism :rolleyes:
    The monarchy has nothing to do with this arguement, and the Queen is neither bureaucratic, socialist or anti British. Anyway, if the British people made clear that they no longer wanted a monarchy, it would go. But in fact, every poll that I have ever seen to do with the Monarchy shows either a majority in favour of keeping the monarchy or more monarchists than republicans. If the British people want to keep the monarchy, then how can it be undemocratic? Its not as if they excerise their powers regularly, whereas the undemocratic EU does so.
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    (Original post by Alexdel)
    Some people just dont use their brains but are very good at reading tabloids...and thats why they come up with some amazing contradictions like that...
    Well since I don't read tabloids, you dont seem to have a point.. I read the Scotsman. Its rich coming from someone who probably reads the Guardian or Independant to say what you are saying. I also note that those who have no arguements start to come up with something completely unrelated to the topic at hand.
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    (Original post by Lord Waddell)
    The monarchy has nothing to do with this arguement, and the Queen is neither bureaucratic, socialist or anti British. Anyway, if the British people made clear that they no longer wanted a monarchy, it would go. But in fact, every poll that I have ever seen to do with the Monarchy shows either a majority in favour of keeping the monarchy or more monarchists than republicans. If the British people want to keep the monarchy, then how can it be undemocratic? Its not as if they excerise their powers regularly, whereas the undemocratic EU does so.
    You do know what undemocratic means right? HAve we had a referendum on this? no so how on earth can you say the British people want the monarchy...just because you and people sorrounding your daily life say so it doesnt make it universal does it? Every poll said the French would vote yes as well as the dutch...however come referendum we know what heppend, and the polls take the previous day changed accrodingly. Also how can you list bureaucratic, anti British with the term socialist. Do you even know what socialism means? and you go around telling others that they do not know what undemocratic means....pffff
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    (Original post by Alexdel)
    You do know what undemocratic means right? HAve we had a referendum on this? no so how on earth can you say the British people want the monarchy...just because you and people sorrounding your daily life say so it doesnt make it universal does it? Every poll said the French would vote yes as well as the dutch...however come referendum we know what heppend, and the polls take the previous day changed accrodingly. Also how can you list bureaucratic, anti British with the term socialist. Do you even know what socialism means? and you go around telling others that they do not know what undemocratic means....pffff
    You honestly believe that this country would vote to get rid of the monarchy? Why, if there is such strong republican feeling, is there no real opposition to the monarchy?

    btw the polls in France and Holland suggested that there would be a "No" vote
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    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...60#post2427760

    relevant to this thread too.
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    (Original post by TheVlad)
    You honestly believe that this country would vote to get rid of the monarchy? Why, if there is such strong republican feeling, is there no real opposition to the monarchy?

    btw the polls in France and Holland suggested that there would be a "No" vote
    If we did get rid of the monarchy, and we ended up with president Tony Blair I think the rupublicans would realise the error of thier ways, and go crawling back on their hands and knees to the queen.
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    (Original post by LC01)
    If we did get rid of the monarchy, and we ended up with president Tony Blair I think the rupublicans would realise the error of thier ways, and go crawling back on their hands and knees to the queen.
    Why? What laws have the monarchy stopped?
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    (Original post by thebucketwoman)
    Why? What laws have the monarchy stopped?
    Very few. The last time the King interferred too much with the business of Parliament he had his head removed from his shoulders. It isn't the business of the monarchy to arbitrarily "stop" laws passed by the legislature.
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    (Original post by Howard)
    Very few. The last time the King interferred too much with the business of Parliament he had his head removed from his shoulders. It isn't the business of the monarchy to arbitrarily "stop" laws passed by the legislature.
    wat do the monarchy even do?
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    (Original post by Howard)
    Very few. The last time the King interferred too much with the business of Parliament he had his head removed from his shoulders. It isn't the business of the monarchy to arbitrarily "stop" laws passed by the legislature.
    And that's how I like my monarchy.
 
 
 
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