Turn on thread page Beta

Can You Get into Uni With Just a 1 Year College Course? watch

    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    Heyall,

    Just wondering is it possible to get into Uni, by just doing a course at college which is just 1 year. I was looking into this and always wondered but not sure. Even if it is for a HnD course.

    I remembered if you get 80 points in a AVCE ICT course, for 1 year you can get to uni with that such as UCE/Wolverhampton but im not sure if its possible atm with any courses?

    Any ideas possibly?
    Offline

    14
    ReputationRep:
    Of you are over 21 you can by doing an access course.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    With an Access course you can do this and i think it's 19 or over for the age limit. It is valid in most top unis also.
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by talksoccer)
    Heyall,

    Just wondering is it possible to get into Uni, by just doing a course at college which is just 1 year. I was looking into this and always wondered but not sure. Even if it is for a HnD course.

    I remembered if you get 80 points in a AVCE ICT course, for 1 year you can get to uni with that such as UCE/Wolverhampton but im not sure if its possible atm with any courses?

    Any ideas possibly?
    Possibly - email the admissions tutors of the universities you are interested in applying to, stating your situation.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    I only got my GNVQ intermediate and a few gcses im afraid, dont think il get in with them
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by talksoccer)
    I only got my GNVQ intermediate and a few gcses im afraid, dont think il get in with them
    I'm sure you will get in at least you have GCSE maths and english at grade C or above. In addition, you already have an AVCE ICT. I'm sure you can get onto a HND/HNC/foundation degree. Is that AVCE double award?
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    You should at least be able to get onto a HNC.
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by ilovemonkeys)
    You should at least be able to get onto a HNC.
    Why not a HND/foundation degree? I thought they have the same requirements too.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    Usualy for most courses including HNDs you have to have at least an A2 level qualification.

    Also you quite often have to be 18, but check this with the university.

    Don't take this is the wrong way but even the work load on an HND can be massive, if you can only get 80 points on an AVCE then maybe you should think of a different route instead of university?
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by trev)
    Why not a HND/foundation degree? I thought they have the same requirements too.
    A HNC is the qualification you achieve by completing half of the units of a HND (the first year). If one achieves well on the HNC they will be permitted to continue onto the HND.
    I think the HNC has lower entry requirements as I guess it's like a 'conditional' HND...
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by ilovemonkeys)
    A HNC is the qualification you achieve by completing half of the units of a HND (the first year). If one achieves well on the HNC they will be permitted to continue onto the HND.
    I think the HNC has lower entry requirements as I guess it's like a 'conditional' HND...
    Cool. Sorry to go off topic, if a person decides to leave after the first or second year do they get a HNC or HND or a certificate/diploma of higher education?
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by trev)
    Cool. Sorry to go off topic, if a person decides to leave after the first or second year do they get a HNC or HND or a certificate/diploma of higher education?
    Are you talking about degrees? If so after the second year if you decide to leave you get a diploma of higher education.

    Most people tend to leave their credits open so they can finish their degree eventualy though.
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by trev)
    Cool. Sorry to go off topic, if a person decides to leave after the first or second year do they get a HNC or HND or a certificate/diploma of higher education?
    HNC = 1st year
    If a student completes one year, they leave with a Higher National Certificate.

    HND = 2 years
    If a student completes the HNC then the 2nd year, they leave with a Higher National Diploma.

    After completing the HND a student can do an extra year (sometimes two years) to gain a degree. This is usually called a top-up.

    If you're referring to dropping out of a normal degree, I guess the student just gets a certificate of higher education as the first two years of a normal degree are different to what would be studied on a HNC/HND.
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by ilovemonkeys)
    HNC = 1st year
    If a student completes one year, they leave with a Higher National Certificate.

    HND = 2 years
    If a student completes the HNC then the 2nd year, they leave with a Higher National Diploma.

    After completing the HND a student can do an extra year (sometimes two years) to gain a degree. This is usually called a top-up.

    If you're referring to dropping out of a normal degree, I guess the student just gets a certificate of higher education as the first two years of a normal degree are different to what would be studied on a HNC/HND.
    (Original post by PQ)
    In a standard 3 year degree course (in most universities (some are a bit funny about it):

    If you leave after passing the first year you get a Certificate of Higher Education (CertHE) which is equivalent to an HNC but NOT the same qualification.

    If you leave after passing the 2nd year you get a Diploma of Higher Education (DipHE) which is equivalent to an HND but NOT the same qualification.
    Alright, thanks for the clarification. I should have thought of that. After reading it, it's kind of like common sense, lol.

    Can a person find a job with a CertHE or DipHE?
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by PQ)
    Definitely not - they're both qualifications that will confine you to the dole queue for life :confused:
    I assume thats a bit of sarcasim . I mean thats what we have McDonald's for
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    For quite a few universities, you have to be 18, so you'd be too young to go after just one year. Check the entry requirements carefully as well. An AVCE is the equivalent to a full A-level, but even not so good universities (see my tact there? :p: ) usually want at least 2 for a degree course. For an HNC/HND, the requirements are lower, so you might get away with just 1. Out of interest though, why are you so desperate to go to uni now? Surely it would be better in the long run to do an extra year at college and do a better qualification?
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by kellywood_5)
    For quite a few universities, you have to be 18, so you'd be too young to go after just one year. Check the entry requirements carefully as well. An AVCE is the equivalent to a full A-level, but even not so good universities (see my tact there? :p: ) usually want at least 2 for a degree course. For an HNC/HND, the requirements are lower, so you might get away with just 1. Out of interest though, why are you so desperate to go to uni now? Surely it would be better in the long run to do an extra year at college and do a better qualification?
    Just to add to kelly's point, you would need at least a grade E (40 UCAS points) to study a HNC/HND course.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    I dont think il be getting anywhere near 80 points to get the big pass for my AVCE course.

    Its just im looking to get into an HND course and im looking at other options to get me to uni asap as im going to end up doing an HND no matter what. I was just looking at what qualifications maybe needed and if there are any other 1 year courses you can do which take you to uni

    Cheers
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by talksoccer)
    I dont think il be getting anywhere near 80 points to get the big pass for my AVCE course.

    Its just im looking to get into an HND course and im looking at other options to get me to uni asap as im going to end up doing an HND no matter what. I was just looking at what qualifications maybe needed and if there are any other 1 year courses you can do which take you to uni

    Cheers
    So are you just doing a single award AVCE at the moment? If so, you'll have finished it before you apply, which is good as you'll already have your results, but what are you going to do for a year in between getting your results and going to uni? If you have to wait a year anyway, you might as well get some more qualifications. You could do another AVCE, top your ICT up to a double award or maybe take a BTEC National Certificate, equivalent to 2 A-levels. That means you'd have the equivalent of 2-3 A-levels, so you might be able to get onto a degree course with that, or if you really want to do an HND, at least you'd be more sure of getting in! The best thing to do while you wait for your results is probably to search for courses on www.ucas.com to see what the entry requirements are and check out the other courses available at your college to see if there's anything else you might want to do.
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by talksoccer)
    I dont think il be getting anywhere near 80 points to get the big pass for my AVCE course.

    Its just im looking to get into an HND course and im looking at other options to get me to uni asap as im going to end up doing an HND no matter what. I was just looking at what qualifications maybe needed and if there are any other 1 year courses you can do which take you to uni

    Cheers
    I'm sure you can get 80 points, it's a grade E. I'm assuming you are doing a single awad. I think you can still get into an HND course with that.

    kellywood5 - not sure if you can top up with an AVCE double award overall, as he might be in the middle of doing a single award AVCE. I actually wanted to switch to a double award ICT in year 13, but the teacher said no, as it's too late, and I got an ASVCE (3 unit) already in year 12.
 
 
 
Turn on thread page Beta
TSR Support Team

We have a brilliant team of more than 60 Support Team members looking after discussions on The Student Room, helping to make it a fun, safe and useful place to hang out.

Updated: June 17, 2005
Poll
How are you feeling about GCSE results day?
Useful resources
Uni match

Applying to uni?

Our tool will help you find the perfect course

Articles:

Debate and current affairs guidelinesDebate and current affairs wiki

Quick link:

Educational debate unanswered threads

Groups associated with this forum:

View associated groups

The Student Room, Get Revising and Marked by Teachers are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd.

Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: International House, Queens Road, Brighton, BN1 3XE

Write a reply...
Reply
Hide
Reputation gems: You get these gems as you gain rep from other members for making good contributions and giving helpful advice.