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    (Original post by Beekeeper)
    I'm also wondering whether I would be able to train during my time at uni, and thus join a team or something after about my first team, how easy is this?

    Which one skill or ability, above all others, makes you a great rower?
    Don't hang around - if you're keen, join in the first term. It's when they'll have most novices and probably a training scheme specifically for them. They'll help guide you with all the training you'll need.

    Right now, I'd work on cardio. Try a couple of sessions on an erg, making sure you use the right technique (keep your back strong and drive with your legs; your arms should have almost no work at all to do). Don’t kill yourself straight away; do some long pieces at low rate to get used to the stroke. Do a 2k if you want but I’d recommend waiting until you have a coach to talk (shout!) you through it. If you want to work on specific muscle groups, rowing is all about the quads *has thighs of steel.*

    As for the one skill or ability - Kipling said it exactly, and more poetically than any boatie ever could:

    "If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone;
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you,
    Except the Will which says to them 'hold on.' "
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    oh har he ha!!!!
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    (Original post by mootle)
    oh har he ha!!!!
    You think that's not true?

    (OK, I didn't come up with that myself, it's filched from another rowing messageboard, but sums it up for me)
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    Out of interest, what do people think are good erg times?

    Last time i tried a couple of weeks ago i got 7.20 for 2k and 19.37 for 5k. I'm not training specifically for rowing but am about 6'1 and 75kg
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    (Original post by Ads.)
    Out of interest, what do people think are good erg times?

    Last time i tried a couple of weeks ago i got 7.20 for 2k and 19.37 for 5k. I'm not training specifically for rowing but am about 6'1 and 75kg
    Well, you're still young so have developing to do yet. Are you actually a rower or just working on the machines? Depends how you define "good" - my friend trialling for the Blues squad is on 6:13 I think - any college first boat rower would have to be sub 7 if not 6:30.
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    Nah, not a rower, just going to the gym to keep fit and get stronger becuase I'm training primarily for windsurfing. I like using the rowing machine becuase it uses the same muscles as windsurfing and it is good to have sub goals in that in order to keep yself pushing.

    On the basis of the info you have told me, I would be happy of a time sub 7 minutes, but I still need a couple months more training before i achieve that.
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    When do you stop being somebody good at either bowling/batting but specialised in the other really, and somebody who's a total all rounder.

    If Shane keeps getting scores like that last match then surely he should be classed as one, the problem for him is that he also has some shockers like the time Giles bowled him after he totally missed.
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    On TMS on day 5, a listener raised that very point. A good definition of an allrounder is someone whose batting average is higher than their bowling average. Flintoff is a true allrounder (i think) as was Botham etc.

    Warne has just had a few decent innings as of late.
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    You don't need to worry about being the strongest person around to do rowing....I would completely forget thinking about building up muscle...that will come naturally. The biggest thing you should work on is cardio, up to one hour long sessions of it, with parts which are mentally tough to keep pushing through. Your weight will be fine, commitment is one of the biggest things in rowing if you ask me...you can still do great things while being relatively weak. Take me: when I started rowing I weighed close to 60kg (although i had just gone through a spell of illness avec vomitting)...I was actually told that I might want to consider coxing instead. But I stuck at the rowing, and worked really hard. I'm only 5ft10. And since I started, I have gone from barely able to have the mental strength to finish a 2k, to 7:20, to 7:10 and now I am brushing close to sub 7. And even with those conceivably rubbish times, I still made the first boat. We werent the most consistent first boat in the world, but heck we still had our moments of sheer brilliance...for just over a week back in march we were actually considered the best boat on the river!

    So I tell ya, you can think about wanting to get stronger or fitter or whatever, but as long as you have commitment all those things will come naturally!
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    (Original post by visesh)
    On TMS on day 5, a listener raised that very point. A good definition of an allrounder is someone whose batting average is higher than their bowling average. Flintoff is a true allrounder (i think) as was Botham etc.

    Warne has just had a few decent innings as of late.
    Well, that's for somebody who bowls only, or all batsman would be called all rounders. :p:

    I wouldn't call Shane an all rounder or anything, he's just a bowler competant with the bat, was just wondering though.
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    (Original post by danni_bella83)
    Just thought I'd drop in again to say GO Libby Leyton!!!

    On her 100m world record, lol our women are given the men, including Hacket and Thorpe a run for their money :p:

    :cool:
    yeh 51.7 is an amazing time. i was going >6 seconds slower than that at 15. she split 55 for 100 fly in the medley relay as well apparently.
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    i only no Thorpe but all aussis r well gd at swimmin coz they got the sea and bin swimming from a young age
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    fair play Iestyn wasnt an all time league great but he was a good player and I would class him as the dogs gonads.
    Did you see Iestyns interview in League Express at the GB camp, saying that the game had stepped up in professionalism in the years he was away, so those gaps that he used to slice through arent there any more, also his long pass is more prone to interceptions because defences do more work these days on winning the ruck, so are better set by the time the ball is played
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    Yeah they've got pretty tough matches next.. Murray against safin, Rusedski against Hewitt and Henman against Chela I think. All of them could go either way I think but Murrays got the toughest match there. Rusedski's playing great at the moment wheras hewitt still needs to get his rhythm back, getting knocked out in the first round of the Rogers cup last week.

    Lets hope all 3 continue rising up the rankings! :cool:
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    Hewitt looks a class A prick with that headband on
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    (Original post by oblivious)
    Hewitt looks a class A prick with that headband on
    lol, couldnt agree more.
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    Lol you mean the Pat Cash one? haha yep
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    (Original post by Pigmy Goat)
    i only no Thorpe but all aussis r well gd at swimmin coz they got the sea and bin swimming from a young age
    ahaha, ive been swimming for ages but im not that great. long distance im not bad but I do 50m in 34 secs which isint too flash :p:
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    calling warne an allrounder then it wud only be fair to call all of the australian bowlers (apart from mcgrath) allrounders.. they can all bat cant they
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    Depends how you define allrounder - personally for me its someone who can win a match with bat or ball - or both, and do it consistently.

    Imran Khan, Richard Hadlee, Ian Botham, Kapil Dev and Garry Sobers did it. Hence they would be regarded as "true" allrounders.

    The advent of ODI cricket has ended all that. Players like Shahid Afridi, Shoaib Malik, Justin Kemp, Andy Symonds, Abdul Razzaq etc - all players capable of a matchwinning innings with the bat or spell with the ball in ODIs, but would struggle to do it at Test level.

    The reason Flintoff is regarded the best allrounder in the world is because he is the only allrounder at Test level. Kallis has raced ahead in the batting but very rarely turns his arm over.
 
 
 
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