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    Yes Mr Murray if you are not up to standard lets blame the media not that you need much more pratice to win!
    I wouldn't put it in such strong words, but agree with the sentiment.

    He lost to a player who's been in the top 20 in the world, the fact that Murray is in the top 100 and automatically qualified for the aus open at the age of 18 is a high achievement in itself.
    Don't get me wrong - he's done brilliantly well so far, and it doesn't matter that much that he lost to Chela but I don't think his reaction was fair, he's got to learn to deal with the Media, they are going to be there whether he likes it or not.

    I dont see where he is blaming the media, can you point it out? It's obviously harder for him when there is added pressure from the media. You dont seem to comment on the rest of what he said like 'You guys are expecting me to win matches like this. The guy's ranked 20 places in front of me, he is a much better player than me'.
    That coupled with this "when I'm expected to win all these matches". I think it's plainly obvious that he is blaming the media (partially) for all the pressure they put on him. They (the media) are expecting him to win - Henman dealt with the pressure pretty well and always gave considered responses to interviews etc.

    We are all behind him and support him to the hilt, but don't think he should react to a defeat like that.
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    (Original post by Colly)
    Barkley is good at 12, personally i think Abbott just shades it. I think there is an advantage to having the wasps centre partnership because they know each other well. Abbott has been playing really well this season and would give England something extra at 12. Fair point about Van Gisbergen, has shown some flashes of brilliance though, and useful to have a back-up kicker if Charlie chokes. Personally don't rate JSD in the centre, don't think he's got the defence and physicality but is a good winger.
    That's true, JSD might be more effective on the wing (maybe he's just better at 13 for Glaws coz their centres never get any ball out to the back 3) .

    Barkley should deffo be on the bench at least- he can play 10 or 12, so would provide backup for both positions plus be a good goalkicker if Charlie gets injured. How's Van Gisburgen's kicking at the mo? I seem to remember that being one of the reasons he was picked in the first place? :confused:

    I guess the most important thing in the backline is for whichever centres AR picks to have a run of several games together, in order to establish an effective partnership (though as you said, if they pick Abbott and Lewsey that wouldn't be a problem).
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    I dont see why you're all leaving noon out of the backs - the guy is a fantastic runner and has the ability to blast through defences - have you ever seen him not send his tacklers a couple of metres back? I personally believe him and lewsey in the centres would make an awesome combination, since they have already player together in the england set up aswell this will be an advantage.
    Olly smith has had a terrible season, which is why he's only playing A's.

    Also - varndell may be good, but i dont think he should start! Cohen is a good winger and mixes a lot better with general attacking play, e.g. coming in from blind angles, and because of his size and power he works extremely well in this role, if only to draw players in. Also, his defence is significantly better than varndells, who is almost as bad as shane williams! despite this though, varndell still deserves a run from the bench - his pace is something worth backing, even if the physicality of the game doesn't bring him up to par with brian habana.

    Also - if looking in comparison to the last 6 nations thompsons throwing in was on a par with any other hooker, and the best in the lions tour - this aspect of his game used to be lowsy, but it is significantly improved now. Also, he has the playmaking abilities of most "modern" hookers without losing the bulk - which against france will be a significant bonus.
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    Noon didn't impress me last year in the 6 nations. Granted he got a hat-trick against a poor scottish team but he didn't make much impact against the others.
    You talk about his physical power but that seems pretty standard these days. Look at 2 of the other 13s in the 6 Nations; Jauzion of France and Brian O'Driscoll. I don't think Noon would go through them as easily as he goes through Guinness Premiership players.
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    I'm not even thinking about his hat trick to be honest with you, and i haven't seen him much in guinness matches - but every time he runs at the line he makes yards, and then other players can feed off him - on several occasions he broke the line but barkley wasn't there to take the pass - the one time he did he was under the posts. Trust me - he is an invaluable player - infallable in defence and effective in attack.
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    Does any1 play/watch 9 Ball Pool? Wot a joke...how easy can u get. American tables r a joke. They're all rubbish! Cept Steve Davis hehe. If O'Sullivan n Hendry played pool they'd kill.
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    wow thnx
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    Does any1 play/watch 9 Ball Pool? Wot a joke...how easy can u get. American tables r a joke. They're all rubbish! Cept Steve Davis hehe. If O'Sullivan n Hendry played pool they'd kill all those fat americans.
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    (Original post by bikerx23)
    I dont see why you're all leaving noon out of the backs - the guy is a fantastic runner and has the ability to blast through defences - have you ever seen him not send his tacklers a couple of metres back? I personally believe him and lewsey in the centres would make an awesome combination, since they have already player together in the england set up aswell this will be an advantage.
    Olly smith has had a terrible season, which is why he's only playing A's.

    Also - varndell may be good, but i dont think he should start! Cohen is a good winger and mixes a lot better with general attacking play, e.g. coming in from blind angles, and because of his size and power he works extremely well in this role, if only to draw players in. Also, his defence is significantly better than varndells, who is almost as bad as shane williams! despite this though, varndell still deserves a run from the bench - his pace is something worth backing, even if the physicality of the game doesn't bring him up to par with brian habana.

    Also - if looking in comparison to the last 6 nations thompsons throwing in was on a par with any other hooker, and the best in the lions tour - this aspect of his game used to be lowsy, but it is significantly improved now. Also, he has the playmaking abilities of most "modern" hookers without losing the bulk - which against france will be a significant bonus.
    I'm not convinced about Noon, he seems too much out of the Tindall mould to me- more of a "bosher" than a creative player. Which has been the problem with England's backs over the past couple of years- its all brawn over brains (i.e. try and smash your way through a defence rather than create holes), which is (a)not attractive rugby to watch and (b) won't beat teams like France and the ABs as they have very solid defences.

    Cohen also fits the "bosher" description, even more so than Noon. Since 2002 he's been losing some of his pace and seems to prefer running into players and coming infield out of position to get more ball. Varndell's defence can be a little bit suspect I'll admit, but the guy can score a try out of nowhere, and with his pace and footwork would be a lot more effective in a creative backline than Cohen would be, imho.

    True, Ollie hasn't been exactly inspiring this season, but the same can most definitely be said for Tindall, and he still got in.

    Overall the selection of the squad has been good, but there are still a handful of players who seem to be in there on past reputations rather than form, and others who have missed out due to "lack of experience". Surely we need to start giving them that experience before 2007?

    *gets down off soapbox* sorry rant over now
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    I agree that noon is a bosher, but a bosher and a quick man make a good centre combo - and noon has the creative play aswell... when he runs at the line he draws players in and as a result creates holes for his centre partner to exploit - for this lewsey would be IMO the perfect companion. And this "suspect" combo almost beat the ABs - admittedly i didn't think tindall should have been there - he was just too out of touch.

    The experience is good - but experience of being thumped by the ABs isn't a good one, which is what would have happened should we have fielded a less experienced side.
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    England's best 22, IMHO

    1. Sheridan
    2. Thompson
    3. White
    4. Shaw
    5. Grewcock
    6. Worsley
    7. Lund
    8. Corry
    9. Ellis
    10. Hodgson
    11. Varndell
    12. Abbott
    13. Lewsey
    14. Cueto
    15. Voyce

    16. Stevens
    17. Mears
    18. Borthwick
    19. Dallaglio
    20. Dawson
    21. Barkley
    22. Simpson-Daniel
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    Front 5 I agree with you. but then:
    6: Corry
    7: Moody
    8: Dallaglio (interchange with Corry at 6 - both work...)

    9: Ellis
    10: Hodgson
    11: Cohen - Varndell after he has had some more sub-time and proved himself
    12: Noon
    13: Lewsey
    14: Cueto
    15: Van Gisbergen

    subs...
    Stevens
    poss. Titteral? unsure.
    Borthwick
    Sanderson (more utility...)
    Gomarsall (ok - robinson hates him...but he is better than ellis IMO...but you have to be realistic)
    Barkley
    Simpson-Daniel
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    Do you not think your back row would lack pace? Moody is no 7, and Corry/Dallaglio aren't as effective at 6. I think to combat the pace of back rows like the French you need Lund in there. Hes the only good specialist 7 England have
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    Ok....admittedly moody may not be a specialist 7, but leaving him off the pitch is lunacy - he can make an enormous difference in a game. He also does have pace.
    The problem with the corry/dallaglio issue is, dallaglio is clearly much better, but corry is the captain. personally corry would not be on the pitch - he's a donkey.
    If that were the case, you could put moody at 6 and sanderson 7 (who is a specialist 7) - I dont rate lund too highly to be honest with you.
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    Yea I think the whole Corry/Dallaglio thing is difficult. Personally I don't think both can be on the pitch at the same time, they're just too similar. I think Dallaglio is the better player but as you say, Corry is the capt. I wonder will AR just use Dallaglio as an impact sub for the last 20/30 mins of games
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    Well - that would be viable considering dallaglio is only recently back from injury, so in that respect it would be easy to say it...

    talking of players who are just too similar though - the same is the case with abbott and lewsey in the centres - the two of them even look the same!

    Ideally I would still like to see lewsey at fb, but since no one thinks that is viable any more who knows...but then with that you could have abbott and noon in the centres, which would make a nice partnership.
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    Well basically I'm looking to train my biceps and triceps nd was wondering if you could help with some exercises I mean I've been doing standard curls and things like that for my biceps and I've been doing tricep presses for my triceps. are there any other exercise that target those parts of the arms.
    Not I only have acess to dumbells and chin-up bars.
    Thanks
    Patrick
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    (Original post by teenageclay)
    Not I only have acess to dumbells and chin-up bars.
    Thanks
    Patrick
    Then buy some. Argos has reasonably priced equipment.
    Chin up bar 7quid
    http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/3003341.htm

    It says you are 14years old – although there is nothing wrong with light training. You have to find out what experts say about people who have not fully grown undertaking proper weight training. So don’t rush out about buy a multigym.

    Even the humble press-up can help. How you position your hands determines what muscles in your arms are worked more. Look up some pictures on the net.
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    At the moment I'm borrowing some dumbells I'm doing 10kg at the mo but thinking of getting more.
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    :eek: Worsley!!!!!! Nooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! (soz, I really don't like this guy- great for wasps but seriously overrated on his england performances methinks.

    Only issue with Moody is getting in enough gametime for Tigers before the 6 nations starts- after being out for so long throwing him in the deep end might not be such a good idea.

    Dallaglio on the bench I can agree with- there to provide experience/leadership towards the end of the match should we be struggling.

    Scrumhalf...how old is Gommersall now? I'm concerned that dawson may not be around/ able to put in decent performances in 2007, and atm Ellis is the only no.9 AR is giving gametime and experience too. Saying that there's the experience arguement agen
 
 
 
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