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    so it's due to end about 6am lol...

    well, slight exaggeration, but I know I'll fall asleep before the end just like last year...and the year before!
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    (Original post by TrentEnd)
    so it's due to end about 6am lol...

    well, slight exaggeration, but I know I'll fall asleep before the end just like last year...and the year before!
    Lol that's the way
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    Scotlands forwards were very good in linking together, and the backs, although not brilliant (Paterson looking in top form, on the wing, where he should be) defended brilliantly against the constant onslaught of knock ons from the french centres...

    I dont think, on the two match appearances, they would beat england, but they could, on that form, beat wales and ireland - so a nice second place in the championship, or, if france beat england, and england beat scotland, there could be a first place on points difference (although there are already 30 behind on that to england...)
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    (Original post by F1 fanatic)
    senna's not my hero. I dont think I've ever claimed that. I admire the guy yes. But I also have equal admiration for the likes of Clark and Fangio. I don't draw a line between eras. Besides what you are saying is different. Im not saying that the cars have changed, and become harder. I have a great deal more respect for the likes of Fangio and Clark - they put their lives at risk every time they raced! What I am saying is that the difference between cycling and cars is getting bigger. They have both become more specialised. Its not a case of driver talent. Its just an issue of practice to build up to that level. If Rossi had a few years in lower formulae to build up muscles and heel toe and all the rest of it I have no doubt he could be good. But I dont see him jumping into a ferrari and suddenly lapping a second faster than anyone else. Thats just not realistic.

    And no I cant give you an example, mainly because I cant think of any motorbike rider of recent times who has made the jump, let alone succeeded.
    I wasn't trying to compare the drivers of different eras just trying to put forward that at all times throughout F1 it has been regarded special, just that little bit more technical than anything else, at that time or prior.

    As for the rest the actual physical driving skills in F1 are pretty low with the admittedly waxing and waning of driving aids. Drivers of previous eras, or of current classes without aids were probably far higher. So heeling and toeing (bit difficult now anyway in F1) isn't really relevant.

    Physical condition though has never been higher, apart from perhaps for bike riders.

    A good F1 driver needs to have hand- eye cordination, an unexplainable feel for the correct line, an ability to repeatedly perform on the virtual edge, an affinity with his machine.

    Everything a rider has, without the extreme levels of danger the rider has to contend with while doing all the rest. The skills needed to physically know which way to turn the steering wheel, or which pedal to push don't really register on the scale.

    Of course no-one will jump into an F1 and instantly be on the pace, but it might not take long. In fact the bike classes might prepare drivers better than lower car classes. Who knows?

    And why do people suggest rossi should perform a second faster than anyone else? It could be if kimi and alonso had jumped on a bike a few years ago rossi could be relatively unheard of, so why should he beat them in a car?

    And for me, Senna is number one.
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    (Original post by Clay)
    I wasn't trying to compare the drivers of different eras just trying to put forward that at all times throughout F1 it has been regarded special, just that little bit more technical than anything else, at that time or prior.

    As for the rest the actual physical driving skills in F1 are pretty low with the admittedly waxing and waning of driving aids. Drivers of previous eras, or of current classes without aids were probably far higher. So heeling and toeing (bit difficult now anyway in F1) isn't really relevant.

    Physical condition though has never been higher, apart from perhaps for bike riders.

    A good F1 driver needs to have hand- eye cordination, an unexplainable feel for the correct line, an ability to repeatedly perform on the virtual edge, an affinity with his machine.

    Everything a rider has, without the extreme levels of danger the rider has to contend with while doing all the rest. The skills needed to physically know which way to turn the steering wheel, or which pedal to push don't really register on the scale.

    Of course no-one will jump into an F1 and instantly be on the pace, but it might not take long. In fact the bike classes might prepare drivers better than lower car classes. Who knows?

    And why do people suggest rossi should perform a second faster than anyone else? It could be if kimi and alonso had jumped on a bike a few years ago rossi could be relatively unheard of, so why should he beat them in a car?
    And for me, Senna is number one.
    Well that was my whole point. But people do seem to be suggesting it and I find it obsurd. I dont doubt Rossi can be a moderately decent driver in an F1 car. But I do doubt he will ever be of the class of Alonso or Raikkonen in formula 1. I don't see any evidence as to why he should blow the field away as some people seem to be expecting.

    And yes Senna is there abouts in my list. But I don't pedastal him on his own. I prefer to have an unordered top 5 or so... its just too difficult to compare properly.
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    PK TEAM SHUD BE IN MY OPINION:

    BUTT
    MALIK
    KHAN
    YOUSUF
    INZI
    AFRIDI
    RAZZAQ
    AKMAL
    R.NAVED
    ASIF
    AKHTAR

    THEY ALL BAT PRETTY WELL TO THE BOTTOM N DONT NEED KANERIA COS MALIK N AFRIDI CAN SPIN

    recently pak have had people like kamal and farhat who i think arent any good in n out of team
    what ever happened to nazir the opener ... he was good.....and misbah ul haq who formed the only resistance to the aussies a couple years back when pk made only like 150 smt n he got 60 of em
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    Where shall I move? (I'm black and it's my turn)

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    Qe4
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    Your knight on 4-d is in danger...
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    The Rook on b8 will be taken by the Bishop on d6

    Best to move the Rook to d8

    + the Knight on d4 is covered by the pawn
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    (Original post by mizfissy815)
    Your knight on 4-d is in danger...
    it's not because my pawn is there
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    (Original post by Navajo)
    The Rook on b8 will be taken by the Bishop on d6

    Best to move the Rook to d8

    + the Knight on d4 is covered by the pawn
    If I move my rook, then it will be caught anyway, because he will get a queen with that pawn, and I would have to get that queen, then his bishop would get my rook
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    Knight x f3, check, if taken - follow through

    (Rook x f3, bishop x f3)


    Then Rook x b7.
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    knight to 3f check
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    (Original post by jOnNy BoRrEll)
    Qe4
    that is what I originally thought, then I could check him again with the bishop to the right, his king would then be trapped, and I think I would have to let the rook go..... unless i can find a way to keep on checking him
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    knight f3 check seems to be best move. If it is taken you get piece advantage and threaten white queen. If king moves you definately get white queen.
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    (Original post by gordon2002)
    that is what I originally thought, then I could check him again with the bishop to the right, his king would then be trapped, and I think I would have to let the rook go..... unless i can find a way to keep on checking him
    Knight first.

    If King is to move - e2, Q x e4!, K f1, bishop f3!... trust me?
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    (Original post by damaster275)
    knight f3 check seems to be best move. If it is taken you get piece advantage and threaten white queen. If king moves you definately get white queen.
    You don't get to keep your advantage that way since R on f2 gets a whack on your queen... and you're still pickled back on b8
 
 
 
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